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sancho
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
On the other hand, many drivers in North Baja arn't required to have Immigration documents, but are insured to drive.
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If you are ANYWHERE Mex for 72 hrs. or more, my logic says if you
have a Mex Ins Policy for more than 3 days, and don't
have an fmm, you are in the Country of Mexico illegally.
Even if you are not so. of say Ensenada. I agree, giving
ill advice to newbies is negligent. When a Cop or Ins Adjuster
asks for your tourist card, what are you going to say?
The guys on bajanomad or bajabound said I don't need
one, that's NOT GOING TO FLY
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DENNIS
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Yeah....Ya know...there are so many freakin' "ifs", I don't know why anyone would try to read between the lines.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
I see, because some thread posted on the internet says that its not required to have an FMM to be covered by your Mexican Insurance Policy then that's
the final word.
Having an FMM is optional to I'm guessing according to some.
If no one ever asks to see it, why the hell go to the trouble of getting one?
Great advice for noobies looking for direction at Baja Nomads. |
So I take it that your word here is the best and true advice? 
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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tripledigitken
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The best advice to a noobie asking about travel into Baja, obey Mexican laws.
To you seasoned old farts, do what you please.
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sancho
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
To you seasoned old farts, do what you please.
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Wait a minute, I resemble that remark, I'm an
Old Blowhard Too, I suppose any of us that
has more than 1 star under their name is also.
Glad we got this item figured out
That is until next time
[Edited on 4-29-2011 by sancho]
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
The best advice to a noobie asking about travel into Baja, obey Mexican laws.
To you seasoned old farts, do what you please.
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Maybe it's just me, but the very fact that so many folks seem to feel that it's ok to ignore the law of a sovereign nation, no matter how intermittent
their enforcement may be, smacks of a kind of an attitude of Mexico being an inferior neighbor.
And yet, we complain all the time about not only Mexicans, but even their govenenment encouraging their citizens to flout US law and take advantage of
us.
The proper quid pro quo is obey the laws both ways.
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Oh come on you do good'ers .
Who here has obey 100% of the American laws?
Posted speed limit says 25. You dont do 26mph ....ever?
I wasnt saying to overthrow the Mexican Govt, shop lift the merchants to death..... or to go on a murderous rampage. We're talking about a little used
form. Not many have bought a tourist card...least in the N Baja areas. Fact is...I dont know anyone that has a tourist card visiting San Felipe.
Please...anyone here...please say you obey all laws 100%
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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mojo_norte
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Maybe it's just me, but the very fact that so many folks seem to feel that it's ok to ignore the law of a sovereign nation, no matter how intermittent
their enforcement may be, smacks of a kind of an attitude of Mexico being an inferior neighbor.
And yet, we complain all the time about not only Mexicans, but even their govenenment encouraging their citizens to flout US law and take advantage of
us.
The proper quid pro quo is obey the laws both ways. |
With all respects you're way off base. The reason most people fail to get an FMM is not for reasons of willful arrogance towards Mexican laws.
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sancho
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mojo_norte
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With all respects you're way off base. The reason most people fail to get an FMM is not for reasons of willful arrogance towards Mexican laws.
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I'm guessing the hassle of getting an fmm, plus
the $23? What's that line people in the US like to
use referring toward illegal Mex Nationals in
the US? "What Part of Illegal Don't You Understand'?
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DENNIS
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Seems to me, those who choose to not get the FMM are just plain lazy. I'll bet most everybody would get one if you could do the whole thing online or
buy one at Vons.
Yep....just plain freakin' lazy.
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RE: "... illegal Mex Nationals in the US? "What Part of Illegal Don't You Understand'?"
If they will, I will.
I split the difference. When the Mex. Embassy in San Diego issued visas, I'd get one stamped (they needed birth certif), but not pay for the bottom
part. I always had the newly issued visa in my possession, along with birth certif as well. It is my understanding that the fee goes toward a fund
for tourism, road repair, and probably a lot of graft. Sometimes I'd pay, and if it wasn't too expired, use it after it expired. Sometimes I'd change
the "60" days to "180" days with the stroke of a pen. The form changed so I had to pay for one the last time. "Legal", "illegal" - all a matter for
a court to decide, prosecuted by whom? A tourist with an expired visa? Aren't there millions all over the world? I don't believe an insurance
company has the capability of determining immigration status. It's not arrogance, it's not laziness that I don't like to pay. It's Mexico's use of
the money, my attitude toward illegal immigration into the US, the fact the visa is only good for 6 months, the fact that a current, paid-for visa is
never required on a trip that turns me off on the idea. Yes, there are risks - weigh the risk as you see fit.
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DENNIS
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When were the INM regs of Mexico offered up for personal interpretation? That's a rather self-righteous attitude toward the issue, don't you think?
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[Edited on 4-30-2011 by DENNIS]
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sancho
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
When were the INM regs of Mexico offered up for personal interpretation?
Exactly, contrary to what some here think, there is no personal
interpretation. Just about as blk/white as can be.
I'm only going to San Felipe for 10 days, LA Bay,
there is no check at G Negro, on and on |
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I'll know Mexico is serious about tourist regulations when, just like the U.S. they examine every legal entrant for the proper
documentation. 
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Thanks everyone......I'll be sure we all have our tourist cards upon leaving Ensenada. Really appreciate the discussion.
Dez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oldtortisegrl
Thanks everyone......I'll be sure we all have our tourist cards upon leaving Ensenada. Really appreciate the discussion.
Dez |
DO NOT attempt to obtain a tourist visa in Ensenada. Get it at the border.
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Just an FYI ~ if you plan on having a child in Baja ~ have your docs (and even ones you don't think you'll need) in check, current and up to date. If
you don't plan on having a child, I still recommend the same practice. You know how to do it. It doesn't take that much time. We get ours EVERY time,
and have only been asked for it when we were doing the paperwork for our son's birth, but it IS the law, and it's the right thing to do.
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Funny topic. Are people trying to save $23 a year, taking chances with immigration control? Is it worth it, really?
Like somebody said, there is usually no single right answer to anything in Mexico. Technically, you must have a tourist card. Roughly once a year I
take a trip there by bus. At those road posts (I think there was at least 2 between Loreto and Tijuana) they mostly check people and cargo going North
- because this is the direction of drugs traffic. About 50% of time (when going North) I had to show my tourist card at such moments. Buses going
South they usually just wave through, 'cause there aren't many Gringos on the bus (but they stop cars going South). Once at the bus station in Tijuana
when I was waiting for Greyhound bus to Sand Diego, immigration officer approached me and asked to show the documents.
The bottom line is: You never know when they will ask you to show it, and you will be glad that you have it.
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Time limit?
We're heading down soon and will be getting a card, but just wondering how long does it allow you to stay in Baja? We plan to drive all the way down
to Cabo and it will likely take more than a month, maybe two. Is that okay? I just read in the 2011 Frommers that new rules limit your stay to 30
days. Is that true? It would be a major inconvenience to have to drive back up and re-enter! 
[Edited on 5-13-2011 by Bajayan]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajayan
I just read in the 2011 Frommers that new rules limit your stay to 30 days. Is that true? |
Can you get your money back on that Book?
You get six months with the FMM.
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