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[*] posted on 5-15-2011 at 07:49 AM


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Hi, we're planning a trip down in June and want to use a 4x4 so we can see a lot more than the good roads allow... but we don't have one.

Any ideas?


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[*] posted on 5-15-2011 at 07:55 AM
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[*] posted on 5-15-2011 at 07:59 AM
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[*] posted on 5-15-2011 at 07:59 AM


Ken,

Unless they are a residents of Mexico. They cannot register a mexican vehicle. They could buy it, but they need a Mexican Drivers license to register it, and to get a mexican license, you need a FM3/2/1.

They also need a mexican drivers license to drive it.

It would be much wiser to buy a 4x4 locally and then drive it around for awhile to make sure everything works. Then address all the problem areas before heading to baja.

just my .02.



[Edited on 5-15-2011 by choyero]
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[*] posted on 5-15-2011 at 08:13 AM


More important than 4x4 is excellent tires (all terrain or better tread), and some clearance - and lots of common sense and a shovel. I went places in an '88 Hyundai Excel that would astound you! And I've shoveled out of sand berms that OTHER people drove over and got stuck on because they thought they were invincible with their 4x4.
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[*] posted on 5-15-2011 at 09:16 AM


when a friend rented a car in Mexico last year the fine print on their paperwork said that they were not permitted to take the vehicle off "pavement' (almost an impossibility as we know even 'on' most paved roads around). this was a regular 2wd basic car.
does anyone know if the rental companies 'cover' themselves this way when they rent their 4x4s?

[Edited on 5-15-2011 by rhintransit]




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[*] posted on 5-15-2011 at 08:32 PM


You might want to buy via Trucktrader online in the San Diego area so that you can insure the vehicle and drive it w/o insurance problems. Also, I would purchase a 6 month insurance policy versus a daily policy to keep the prices down. I posted info for some Tijuana-area vehicles, but was unaware that you need to have a Mexican drivers license to drive a vehicle with Mexican plates. My bad...



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[*] posted on 5-15-2011 at 09:11 PM


Ken, I agree totally. I'm just sour grapes cause I cant afford any more toys. I would have a Jeep, a buggy, a Razor a hauler etc etc etc if I could, but.............

I go crawling with the Jeep boys a couple times per year and really enjoy it. But honestly, these guys have $$$invested and break stuff every trip for more $$$. That's where I learned that saying from.

On my budget, a Tundra and a quad give me plenty o good times!

To be honest, one of my favorite things to do in life is coastal/ beach exploring in central Baja on a quad.




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[*] posted on 5-15-2011 at 09:25 PM


If you have a great time in a Tundra and a quad, there should be no appologies. I have sunk thousands into my '03 Rubicon in both payments and modifications. I would love one with 4 doors, but I doubt I can afford one. If I broke my Rubicon on a trail this weekend, I would not have a ride to work on Monday.



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[*] posted on 5-16-2011 at 11:12 AM


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Ken,

Unless they are a residents of Mexico. They cannot register a mexican vehicle. They could buy it, but they need a Mexican Drivers license to register it, and to get a mexican license, you need a FM3/2/1.

They also need a mexican drivers license to drive it.

It would be much wiser to buy a 4x4 locally and then drive it around for awhile to make sure everything works. Then address all the problem areas before heading to baja.

just my .02.



[Edited on 5-15-2011 by choyero]


Excellent point, Choyero, and opportune that you mentioned this "minor detail." It could have really sucked for the person in question to have already parted with the money before finding this out.
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[*] posted on 5-16-2011 at 11:28 AM


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I went places in an '88 Hyundai Excel that would astound you! And I've shoveled out of sand berms that OTHER people drove over and got stuck on because they thought they were invincible with their 4x4.


Really? You took your '88 Hyundai Excel places where 4X4s feared to tread? And you knew that the vehicles that got stuck in those sand berms were 4X4s how? Their tracks in the sand revealed that?

Although I know two-wheel drive passenger cars can go many places (my family and I traveled the pre-pavement Baja road in a '65 Mustang when I was a teenager), let's keep a little reality in the topic, please. At no point did I ever make the connection that the Mustang could have kept up with the 4X4s in the rough stuff. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous, especially on a forum that is dedicated to Baja, where most members know a bit about the subject.
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[*] posted on 5-16-2011 at 11:57 AM


Relax Steve, Cindi is smart... the Hyundai is front wheel drive, and that is half the battle... the rest is smart driving (often lacking with those who have 4WDs) and finally air pressure (in sand)!



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[*] posted on 5-16-2011 at 07:00 PM


You don't need 4x4 I went to Baja for about 40 years without it, I got stuck once. 4x4 just means you get stuck worse.
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[*] posted on 5-16-2011 at 10:02 PM
I would Just Rent One..


I would Just Rent One unless you need an extra Car...
If you rent for one month you get one week for free aprox., get full coverage and forget all the worrys....

i rented a suburban for 2 months got a very good deal!!!

will send you info tomorrow or phone numbers.

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You don't need 4x4 I went to Baja for about 40 years without it, I got stuck once. 4x4 just means you get stuck worse.



Now that is just silly... of course it could be true if you don't know how to drive off road (or let air out of your tires)!

40 years ago was 1971... and pavement ended in Colonet southbound and Constitucion northbound from La Paz.

Of course grading was safe for 2WD, so you could get maybe to El Rosario southbound and Santa Rosalia northbound...

But, there is so much more to Baja than paved or graded roads! Sure plenty of 2WDs traveled the peninsula, with careful driving and dry weather... but the side roads and far away beaches often were only reached with 4WD.




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[*] posted on 5-16-2011 at 10:23 PM


So much food for thought! We're still hunting for a solid 4x4 while at the same time considering just taking down our current 2wd car and accepting its limitations.

Thanks for the tip on 6 mo insurance as well, that was going to be my next question! :-)
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[*] posted on 5-17-2011 at 06:23 AM


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Now that is just silly... of course it could be true if you don't know how to drive off road (or let air out of your tires)!

But, there is so much more to Baja than paved or graded roads! Sure plenty of 2WDs traveled the peninsula, with careful driving and dry weather... but the side roads and far away beaches often were only reached with 4WD.



Aren't most of the desert race vehicles, Baja 1000 and the numerous other desert races 2wd? You can go a lot of places in a 2wd, granted a rental 2wd car is a far cry from a race buggy/trophy truck!
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