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Temporary Import Permit for boat
OK, so about two years ago we brought our 25' boat down to Loreto, no problem. Now, I understand that they have changed the law and we need to have a
Temporary Import Permit for it to be in Baja legally. They wouldn't let us use the launch ramp at Puerto Escondito without it. Nobody seems to know
how we can get this permit short of bringing it back to the US and entering again - which is not going to happen. Any advice?? I'm sure I'm not the
only one with a boat down here when the law changed.
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Roberto
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I would try and get the boat in the water somehow, and go via sea to a port of entry (I think Santa Rosalia qualifies but I'm not sure). Then, get it
issued from the Port Captain, or a Marina if there is an organized one. La Paz would be another place.
As far as I know, this is not a new requirement. I suspect that you have been keeping the boat on the trailer and have not run afoul of the
regulations, but TIPs have been around for a while, and keeping a boat at a Marina you would have found this out much sooner.
Other than by sea, I think you will have to exit Mexico and re-enter, I think.
This is not firm info, but a starting point to look into.
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I thought the Santa Rosalia guys had a way of getting a TIP. That's not THAT far.
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bill erhardt
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The law has not changed. Enforcement is becoming more consistent. When I brought my first boat to Baja in 2002 it was necessary to import it before
I could keep it in a boatyard in Cabo.
There was an office in Santa Rosalia that issued TIPs when it was necessary to have a vehicle/boat imported to bring it south as far as Guaymas on the
mainland. That office was closed when the line of demarcation for the TIP requirement was moved south on the Mainland.
There is presently an office that issues TIPs for vehicles/trailers near the ferry terminal in La Paz. To get a TIP in La Paz it is not necessary to
bring the vehicle/boat for inspection. Merely take required documents to the office and for $50 or so US they will provide the import permit,
sticker, etc. and you are in business.
Or, you can get the TIP online at:
http://www.banjercito.com.mx/site/siteBanjer/index.jsp
The online method is by far the easiest, but it will take a week or so to get the permit/sticker in the mail, as opposed to picking it up at the
counter in La Paz. (However, if you've had the boat in Mexico for two and a half years you're apparently not in a big hurry.)
When I had a new boat built last fall, I collected the boat hull#, trailer VIN, and motor ID ser.# from the manufacturers before the boat was
completed, applied online, and had the TIP in hand before I drove to Florida to pick up the boat. It made crossing the border with the shiny new
boat at Otay a snap. They didn't even board the boat or check my truck. It also made the captain of the port happy and simplified the process when I
applied for the initial annual registration in Loreto.
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Lots of info on this recently. In La Paz, go to the ferry terminal, the window next to Aduana will issue you a TIP, sticker, good for 10 years. It
is $50USD. You don't need your boat there, just documents. If not La Paz, try Aduana in other ports. Not a big deal.
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ncampion
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Thanks for the good info. We are going to La Paz next week, so will try with Aduana there. Do you know exactly what documents we will need?
Registration, insurance? Anything else? Will I need trailer documents also? If it doesn't work in La Paz I'll try the on line link, that looks
pretty easy. I'm not in a hurry and could get documents sent to my PO box in Loreto.
Hard for me to believe that every little trailer boat that comes into Baja for a weekend of fishing is getting a TIP.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ncampion
Hard for me to believe that every little trailer boat that comes into Baja for a weekend of fishing is getting a TIP. |
The difference here might be whether or not the boat is CURRENTLY registered in the US. (And is returning to the US after the visit).
The last two times that we crossed at Otay, customs officials wanted to see the current registration/numbers stickers for the boat and trailer.
If not on a visit to Mexico with current US registration, then maybe the boat/trailer has to be imported into Mexico.
Sound similiar to an automobile? Not sure, just saying .... 
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bill erhardt
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ncampion.....It is a piece of cake, whether you go to the Banercito office at the ferry terminal in La Paz or apply for the TIP online.
At the ferry terminal they will want to see your passport and the Mexican immigration document granted entry to the country. And to prove ownership
of the boat, the US title or certificate of origin for the boat. I also provided title to the outboard engine and US registration for the trailer.
That is it, and including the trailer on the TIP for the boat is optional. This and cross their palm with silver and you are on your way and legal.
Although proof of liability insurance is a requirement for using the facilities at Puerto Escondido and many other marinas it is not required for the
importation process.
Interestingly, if you use the online process they do not require copies of any documents, only numbers you provide from the documents along with
certification that they are accurate.
When I imported a boat at the Banercito office in La Paz a few years ago the process went like clockwork and I had my TIP papers/sticker in twenty
minutes, or so. As I walked to my car, however, I noticed that instead of the ten year period that should apply on a TIP for a boat my papers were
good only for the six months that apply to a car/truck. I went back and had it corrected - which took longer than the initial process.
So, if you go to La Paz check your paperwork before you leave.
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Caution on the Banjercito site. Just a couple days ago, going to their site for a boat TIP, tossed you into the new requirements for TIPS for ALL RVs
on the mainland. We think it is a screw up on the Banjercito site as it only give you the new fees for VEHICLES (the refundable bond).
Besides, I believe that the Banjercito method must be mailed to an address outside of Mexico, but not sure on that.
Also, judging by someone who got a boat TIP over here last week at Aduana, they are now 60.00 US.
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Wait a minute. I read on this forum that permits for boats were no longer needed. Is this "TIP" related only to boats that are NOT registered in the
US?
I brought my USA registered 15.5 ft fiber glass certer console skiff and trailer down from USA to LA Paz in May last year. I didn't get a permit
because of what I read in this forum. I was stopped and inspected at the TJ border and no one said anything about a permit. Also, launched the boat
from La Paz marina several times late last year and no one ever asked to see a TIP.
| Quote: | Posted 7-26-2010
You don't need a boat permit in Mexico anylonger, however if you are fishing out of a boat you will need fishing licensesfor all involved. They did
away with the boat permit a couple years ago. |
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The requirement that was dropped in 2008 was the boat permit that used to be required to operate a boat in Mx waters. It had nothing to do with
fishing. Fishing licenses are still required for all on board regardless of age. |
[Edited on 7-27-2011 by MitchMan]
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The "boat permit" - no longer required -is different than the Temporary Import Permit.
In Memory of E-57
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What the heck is the difference between a boat permit and a TIP? Does anybody know what the distinctions are? Under what circumstances is a TIP
required and not required? Anybody have any clarity on this?
Let me guess. Is it that a boat permit was limited to permission to "use a USA registered boat on the water" and that permission to physically
possess and/or transport/and/or store your USA registered boat over/on baja land FOR ANY PERIOD OF TIME is considered a different type of permission
requiring its own separate and distinct permit? If that's the case, prior to 2008, was both a 'boat permit' and a TIP required to both take your over
Baja land and use your boat in Baja waters?
GeeZ Louise, I am getting frustrated here.
[Edited on 7-27-2011 by MitchMan]
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There USED to be a permit for your boat if you were going to be fishing from it.
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Hook, before 2008, did you also need a TIP given that the TIP (Temporary Import Permit) has nothing to do with fishing per se (I am guessing here),
but everything to do with bringing the boat into Baja from the USA?
Just desperately trying to get this straight.
[Edited on 7-27-2011 by MitchMan]
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bill erhardt
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Mitch,
The annual "boat permit" was issued by the same authority that issues Mexican sport fishing licenses. This annual boat permit was abolished five or
six years ago, I think in conjunction with a change in National government administrations.
The annual boat permit was separate and apart from the requirement that any foreign boat brought south across the border from the US or Canada was and
is required to be "imported" into Mexico and granted a Temporary Import Permit (TIP). TIPs are granted exclusively by Banjercito either at various
ports such as La Paz and previously Santa Rosalia, at Banjercito offices at border crossings between US and Mexico, and for the past couple of years
online.
Although temporary import permits are required for any foreign boat brought into the country this requirement has been honored more in the breech than
in practice and enforcement of the requirement has been nearly non-existent.......until now. More and more facilities like the marina at Puerto
Escondido are requiring that foreign boats using facilities have a TIP. I would be surprised if this requirement does not soon spread to Loreto. I
know that it has been discussed by officials from the Port Captain's office and API. I was questioned about a TIP for my boat a couple of years ago
at the backwater ramp at Lopez Mateos.
On a Banjercito hand-out I have from one of the boats I have imported are these telephone numbers for questions about TIPs:
from US or Canada 1 877 210 9469
from Mexico 01 800 201 8542
I just called and was referred to Jorge Arturo Pineda at a border crossing, I think Loredo. 867 713 6151. Sr. Pineda speaks fluent English. He
confirmed the requirement for TIPs for all foreign boats and did not object when I told him I planned to post his number for gringos with questions.
This is a requirement that is easily met unless you are operating a stolen boat with no papers. Although many, like you, have been operating for
years without importing foreign boats and have not been called on it, it is probably a good idea to get the sticker to avoid future inconvenience.
And, yes. The importation requirement dates at least back to 2002 when I had to get a TIP for my boat in Cabo......
[Edited on 7-27-2011 by bill erhardt]
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MitchMan
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Thank you, Bill. Many thanks.
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I had the same experience with my 24' boat; stored and operated In Mexico without a TIP for several years, and when my insurance was up for renewal
this past year the Mexican carrier wanted proof of the TIP (a new requirement according to my agent). I did the whole thing online through the
Banercito website that was previously posted and it was really easy and very efficient. The TIP is good for 10 years. It has to do with importing a
foreign vehicle into the country (boat, car, etc.). for a long period of time. In 10 years, you're supposed to renew it again.
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Thanks again for all the good info, especially Bill. I'll have to look you up, as we are both in Loreto. As I said, I'll be going to La Paz next
week and pay a visit to Aduana. I'll post my experience - hope it's positive.
BTW, I don't carry my Title with me, will that be necessary? I can probably have my daughter in Calif. scan it and send me an email attachment.
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ncampion......I don't know if they would accept a copy of the boat title at the Banjercito office in La Paz, or not. Although, again ironically, if
you apply online all you do is type in the hull number and promise that it is true.
I would call in advance before making the trip in hope they would accept a copy.
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So is the bottom line if you are bringing in a boat let's say
for a weekend of fishing out of Ensenada ,you by law need to have that TIP for the time you are down there, although you may not be asked for it? I
like to travel down baja with all the proper required documentation. So if it is required but
not enforced, I would still rather have it than sit in some officials office.
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