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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
In any event, I side with Jesse on this. Despite all the wild west theatrics, I just cannot see a cop shooting someone on the public roadway over such
an inconsequential matter.
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"You are under arrest. Get into my vehicle."
What do you do then, Howard? |
Soil my Depends? 
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capitolkat
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jesse, jeese he's my man if Jesse can't do it no one can
Life is too short to drink bad wine
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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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hmmm....OK, next time the policia try to hold someone's license and the guys argue with the cop...he may give the license back and decommision the
vehicle kidding.... good to know Jess and Gnu...gracias
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MitchMan
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In La Paz, seems like cops like to take over a corner on 5th de febrero every Friday a few blocks before Forjadores about 2pm and stop everyone in
sight obviously looking for mordida. See the same thing on Colossio. Best advice is "don't look them in the eye, when you pass them by". Been
stopped only once in the last 4 months since putting the advice to practice.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
I always carry a laminated color copy of my DL.......good throwaway insurance. Never give up the original. |
Good info, I'm going employ that. I was under the impression
a Mex Cop cannot keep a foreigners license, could be
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do all foreigners have uber status or diplomatic unity in mexico?
like in the USA we give french citizens greater rights than gringos?
and like in the USA (esp AZ) we give mexicans the least rights of any foreigner?
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MrBillM
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Standing UP for RIGHT
Borrowing a phrase, I would suggest that anyone in that position tell the Cop that "You'll only get my license if you pry it from my Cold, Dead Hand".
THAT should set them straight.
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DENNIS
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I'm going to buy a laminating machine. I'm gonna laminate copies of everything I have in my wallet .
"You want my license, Pudro? Here. Take two."
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El Comadante Loco
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I will just pay the normal $20.00 sleep better and view this as a contribution to the cops Friday night beer fest. Life is way to short to get your
panties in bunch over a drivers license. Yes, I have had mine picked up, never went back for it. Went to DMV told them it was lost and got a
replacement.
However I just may consider getting a good counterfeit one for Baja or perhaps get a dozen.
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DENNIS
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Just sent for that laminating machine. Card size...20 bucks at Amazon. Big discount....save 60....something like that.
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bajaguy
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Continuing the problem
| Quote: | Originally posted by El Comadante Loco
I will just pay the normal $20.00 sleep better and view this as a contribution to the cops Friday night beer fest. |
Paying the Mordita just encourages the continuation of the problem.
[Edited on 8-6-2011 by bajaguy]
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mcfez
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Paying the Mordita
Please never do that..it encourages more of the same in the future. This sort of action creates what there is now in Mexico..some cops making the rest
look bad.
Either have duplicates made (good idea) ....or head down to the cop station with them.
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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Bajajorge
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
I always carry a laminated color copy of my DL.......good throwaway insurance. Never give up the original. |
I carry copies of DL, Registration and Insurance. I also have copies of US Passport and FM3, they can only pry the originals out of my cold dead
fingers.
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JoeJustJoe
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Paying the Mordita
Just say no. Once a corrupt Mexican cop figures you won't pay him a bribe. He'll usually let you walk. However, sometimes they sweat you a little, and
if you can't hold out or rather do something else. Then I see no problem paying the bribe if you bargain it down to something small like $20 dollars,
especially if you did something illegal like running a stop, speeding, or even were drinking too much, although if you were drinking too much. $20
dollars won't get you off the hook.
Now if you belong to a forum you'll run into many members that tell you that they stood up to a corrupt Mexican cop, but you don't know if it's true.
Sometimes I wonder why corrupt Mexican cops even bother to shake down Americans from all the reports I hear from Americans claiming they didn't pay a
bribe. Yeah, right.
The truth is most Americans don't stand up to the corrupt cops, and some Americans are pulling out the " mordita" before the cop even asks. So what's
a cop to do when they have a shaking American offering $50 dollars to be left alone?
The good think at least in Tijuana. The shakedowns from corrupt TJ cops is way down, and has been down since Hank Rhon stopped being mayor.
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Katiejay99
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You know Joe, I just have to take exception to your post. Why in the world would you think that we are NOT standing up to the cops? I don't pay bribes
- period. Yea, I get stopped every now and then and only once was it for a good reason (I paid at the station). When people pay or offer bribes, it
hurts every one of us who live here (not just foreigners).
And.... "standing up" to them means that I am very nice and respectful and tell them to lead the way and I will settle at the station. The "bad" cops
of course, don't want to do that, so they give you a "verbal warning" (always respectful) and leave.
[Edited on 8-6-2011 by Katiejay99]
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mcfez
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Hey Joe...
"....Sometimes I wonder why corrupt Mexican cops even bother to shake down Americans from all the reports I hear from Americans claiming they didn't
pay a bribe. Yeah, right.
I have to wonder that too!
Back in 88-89...leaving the Sacto Clubs......I ventured out to San Francisco to do my dream...open a club in The City. Found a site that was
great.......put down the ol $ on it......Then I found out it would take up to two years to get all the proper permits! Let's see....18,000 per month
for two years, returns zero!
After a few lawyers, a lobbyist...we finally hired a "expeditor" ....got the 17 licenses within 30 days......at a real cost. Was it a bribe? I dunno
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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bajaguy
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Around the corner
| Quote: | Originally posted by Katiejay99
You know Joe, I just have to take exception to your post. Why in the world would you think that we are NOT standing up to the cops? I don't pay bribes
- period. Yea, I get stopped every now and then and only once was it for a good reason (I paid at the station). When people pay or offer bribes, it
hurts every one of us who live here (not just foreigners).
And.... "standing up" to them means that I am very nice and respectful and tell them to lead the way and I will settle at the station. The "bad" cops
of course, don't want to do that, so they give you a "verbal warning" (always respectful) and leave.
[Edited on 8-6-2011 by Katiejay99] |
And no, don't go around the corner with the police. If they want to write you a ticket, let them write it. If where you are stopped constitutes a
traffic hazard, pull into a PEMEX or a store parking lot.
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sancho
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Anyone find the Older they get, the less they encounter
Mex traffic stops? I sure do. I agree with the notion that
MOST EVERY GRINGO tourist, except for the few on this
board would have the Mordida out of their wallet before
the Cop reached their vehicle. I could see the quivering
weekend US Tourist asking how much does the Ticket cost
and could you take this $ and pay the Ticket for me? I frequent San Felipe which
knock on madera, Mexicali Cops don't seem the have the
same lust for Mordida as TJ Cops do.
Wonder if these Menas's could tell a copy of a DL from an
original?
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Bajahowodd
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No question that there's a form of profiling involved. Your age is just one, if they actually saw who they were stopping before they did. In my
opinion, your vehicle is crucial. Not just the type, but the color, and what it may be conspicuously carrying.
Just thinking that someone driving an older sedan not painted red, would be less likely to be "attacked", than someone driving a raised SUV with
flames on the fenders.
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Katiejay99
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You know, you may have a point there. When I used to drive my red 1990 Cadillac, I used to get stopped. Now I have a black truck, tinted windows and
loud mufflers - they haven't even looked twice since I got it.
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Bob H
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My first couple of encounters with Baja cops, I paid the mordida. Never, ever, since at least 1986 have I ever offered to pay mordida. Let them
sweat it out while eventually letting me go so they can get to their next target! My last speeding ticket, the cop told me the fine was 4,000 pesos.
What? Are you kidding me? What a joke... I asked him to escort me to the police station and he let me go.
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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