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mcfez
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Off Topics septic is flowing into the Q & A
Bill...why the hell are you here trolling the Baja Questions & Answers topics? You need to get back to your dark domain (Off Topics). I'm
surprised you haven't dumped your racist concepts here...yet.
[Edited on 8-10-2011 by mcfez]
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MitchMan
Sorry, MrBill, your response is simply not a civilized one. I am getting the distinct feeling you are a "the end justifies the means" type of guy.
That type of reasoning and approach is just fundamentally wrong and often inhumane and immoral. |
Ya ... mean like the economy ...... 
[Edited on 8-10-2011 by wessongroup]
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MitchMan
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You got that right, wessongroup.
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MrBillM
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A Serious Subject
Deserves Serious Thought.
Whether others agree or not, what I've noted is appropriate to the subject.
And, backed up by a plethora of historical evidence with the French Revolution being the MOST flagrant example.
A MOB is NOT Civilized and doesn't deserve Civilized response. A MOB has to be put down as if it were a Rabid Dog. A MOB
only understands Fear and only respects violence.
Once the MOB takes hold, no amount of negotiation and compromise are effective. The MOB must be dispersed. Or, as seems to often be the case,
allowed to run rampant until it wears itself out. At the expense of massive property damage and lives lost.
After the MOB is ended, any social ills or other issues can be addressed.
It has ALWAYS been true and ALWAYS will be.
IF someone wishes to dispute that, they should do so on the basis of factual evidence to the contrary rather than spurious comments without factual
basis.
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MitchMan
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I see that you are doubling down, Mr Bill. "The end justifes the means!"
| Quote: | | A MOB is NOT Civilized and doesn't deserve Civilized response. |
Then you go on to characterize a human mob as a "Rabid Dog" and that it "...has to be put down".
You've gone off the deep end. Listen to yourself, man. Get a grip. You sound like your answer to mob control is to annihilate it. Come on, admit it,
you believe that "the end justifies the means", don't you? Come on, tough guy, admit it.
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Cypress
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If your home or business was being looted, trashed, and burned. If you were being victimized by the mob? Opinions would change.
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Cardon Man
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
If your home or business was being looted, trashed, and burned. If you were being victimized by the mob? Opinions would change.
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That depends on whether or not you are part of the mob. I doubt very many of the people that made up the mob had a homes or business trashed.
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MrBillM
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For ANYONE ............
Other than a student who failed Special-Ed, I think I've been perfectly clear.
A MOB operates absent reason. It lacks cohesive leadership or purpose. It HAS to be STOPPED as quickly as possible. The ONLY way of doing so has
ALWAYS been an overwhelming Violent response. Period. That's historical FACT. I personally saw it in 1965. Nothing worked until absolute control
was established under arms. The burden for the Blood of any innocents is shared by the authorities who allowed the MOB behavior to extend past Night
ONE while vacillating in their response.
Once a "protest" degenerates into violent MOB behavior, WHATEVER means are NECESSARY should be employed until the situation is under control.
PERIOD.
Show me where other means have been successful.
Waiting for citation.
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Bajahowodd
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Simply, this may be the template for what will happen in the US.
Baja does not come close to what is going on in the UK right now.
But the US has been witness to the systematic looting of the middle class for too many decades.
Question is, if the implosion/ explosion happens in the US, it needs to occur sooner than later, just because the longer we witness the looting of the
American people for the good of the wealthy, the worse the result will be.
What's happening in the UK is not about race.
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wessongroup
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Would a subway in India count 
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Other than a student who failed Special-Ed, I think I've been perfectly clear.
A MOB operates absent reason. It lacks cohesive leadership or purpose. It HAS to be STOPPED as quickly as possible. The ONLY way of doing so has
ALWAYS been an overwhelming Violent response. Period. That's historical FACT. I personally saw it in 1965. Nothing worked until absolute control
was established under arms. The burden for the Blood of any innocents is shared by the authorities who allowed the MOB behavior to extend past Night
ONE while vacillating in their response.
Once a "protest" degenerates into violent MOB behavior, WHATEVER means are NECESSARY should be employed until the situation is under control.
PERIOD.
Show me where other means have been successful.
Waiting for citation. |
That was true until recently. The MOB of this current internet mass-disaffected generation is instantly connected with text and video and is cloaked
in digital anonymity. Their actions can change on-the-fly and in real time. New game. jmho
[Edited on 8-11-2011 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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MrBillM
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A New Game in Town
And, that communication capability is, perhaps, another argument for Quick and decisive response to Mob activity.
Torching, Looting, Rock-Throwing and miscellaneous Mayhem with the unlikely penalty that you "might" be one of the few detained and "possibly" be
subject to minor civil or criminal penalties pales next to those around you (or you) being riddled with Bullets.
Having experienced it from opposite perspectives, I can say being shot at is sobering and focuses attention.
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Cypress
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I'd suggest all you defenders of looting mobs read Ann Coulter's latest column.
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Cardon Man
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
I'd suggest all you defenders of looting mobs read Ann Coulter's latest column. |
The fact that you take social commentary by Coulter seriously is an indication you're missing the point. I don't think anyone is defending the mob as
much as they are condemning social sytems that disenfrachises people and creates poverty. It's haves vs have nots. The larger the population of have
nots the bigger the powder keg that is created.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
But the US has been witness to the systematic looting of the middle class for too many decades.
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Hey, we're talking about mobs here. The systematic looting of the middle class that has been taking place for the last three decades has been done by
the government itself.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cardon Man
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
I'd suggest all you defenders of looting mobs read Ann Coulter's latest column. |
The fact that you take social commentary by Coulter seriously is an indication you're missing the point. I don't think anyone is defending the mob as
much as they are condemning social sytems that disenfrachises people and creates poverty. It's haves vs have nots. The larger the population of have
nots the bigger the powder keg that is created. |
Well said, Cardon Man.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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Flash Mobs:
http://www.clicker.com/tv/nightly-news/violent-flash-mobs-pu...
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Shoot them down like the Dogs they are.
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mr bile:
why do you hate dogs?
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Shoot them down like the Dogs they are.
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mr bile:
why do you hate dogs? |
Yeah--------he probably should have said, "goats". 
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Brian L
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The pitifulest thing out is a mob; that's what an army is--a mob; they don't fight with courage that's born in them, but with courage that's borrowed
from their mass, and from their officers. But a mob without any man at the head of it, is beneath pitifulness.
- Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
Brian
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