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mcfez
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Well Bob...
I think we have another great member that just joined us...you!
Am happy that your eyes are wide open.
I am one of the lucky dogs here. We have a home over in San Felipe in Campos Ocotillo. This property is one of our leases. We "bought" the parcel,
built the house, and we are happy happy - joy joy with the deal. We did indeed understood that it was a ten year lease. Adding up the Hotel fees and
all that....over ten years...it was cheaper to build the house than to rent out hotel rooms!
Now.....change of command took place a year or two ago. We are lucky that Salvadoran had his youngest education daughter take over the campos. She's
great! However..If she marries...we are concerned because the male may be the one in charge.......
Just be prepared for a dark day in the far future.
The next issue you'll might face is hiring help for those projects you may have line up. I suggest you come back here to the Q and A and ask a LOT of
questions before hiring a day labor to a house keeper. It's a real issue in Baja currently.
Now.....are you the one that stole DENNIS's garbage can?
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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Pescador
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The other complication comes from the fact that if the landowner dies, unless he has a formal will designating who will be in charge of his property,
in Mexico it is split equally between the wife and the children. So you can end up with a family squabble which changes the whole situation almost
overnight. I had a good friend who had a "long term lease" and when the owner died the new owners had to honor the 9 year 11 month lease, but they
sold everything including the property at the end of that period to a developer.
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byoungquist
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Thanks, Pescador, more good info.
Yah, I have Dennis' garbage cans. I think I'll ride down and "deliver" them personally.
Cheers!
Bob
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Martyman
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
Your previous responses certainly sound like this.
[Edited on 8-14-2011 by DianaT] |
what is it with the troll remarks? you're a troll! no, you're a troll.
I'm calling you an ogre.
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Borregoman
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Now THAT is how you give someone advice.....
Intelligent and extremely accurate advice delivered in a non-judgemental manner. Always a pleasure to read your posts.....
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
Somehow I always end up being late to the party on these threads...
Bob - there is some good advice here along with the usual jabs tossed towards newbies who try to swim against the current. Those posters who told you
that you legally only have a ten year lease are correct. The notario who handled your leases was only providing a legal affirmation that those who
signed the documents were who they said they were, nothing else. Mexican courts have showed a long history of upholding the law that limits leases to
a maximum of ten years, when challenged.
If you have a good landowner who is a man of his word, there is no reason to believe that he wouldn't go ahead and honor the second and third ten year
leases. Lots of Gringos down here have enjoyed such relationships over the years. I recently talked to a guy whose dad started leasing from a
landowner back in the 50's and now he is getting ready to pass it onto his kids. It's really great when that works out.
But now let's say the landowner decides to sell the land or God forbid, passes away and the property passes onto other family members. They will be
under no legal obligation to honor either the second or third lease - that is what others here are trying to explain to you.
So before you go spending too much money on anything down here, do so only with the understanding that in ten years it "might" not renew. You will not
be able to force them to do so legally.
So, let's try to get back to your original question...
Are you leasing property that already has a house or will you be building? If you are just bringing down household items and live in the San Diego
area I would suggest just making a few trips with the stuff on the back of a pickup and there is a very good chance that you will just be waved
through - especially if it is used. If you have more and will need to be using a trailer I would suggest crossing at Tecate and contracting a customs
broker there for a very reasonable fee and they will handle it. Other forum members have done just that, bringing down some high dollar solar gear and
tell us that is the way to go.
So welcome to the forum and to my little region of the peninsula that I have come to love so much. It sounds like you will be down in the Socorro area
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jakecard
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Borregoman makes an excellent observation. But then again . . .
Who wouldn't expect sage advice from a guy with the most demonstrably wise avatar in cyberspace?
A true curator of humanity, that BajaGringo. And a selfless savior of this site. Praise God.
Jake
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jakecard
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By the way, cute troll, Diane.
Jake
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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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such insight jake!!! and I can vouch personally that mrgringo is every bit as cool as his avatar....very well put mrgringo about leasing.
Now Bob...there arent many secluded spots by the bay in Asuncion as the bay is surrounded by town...but there are some nice spots you can park your
RV...you can lease a lot or buy one or make friends with someone who will let you share their lot. Bajagypsy would be a good neighbour (if you can
handle wild and crazy canadians!!!)
Anywhere you choose, you will like the village...especially in the summer.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jakecard
By the way, cute troll, Diane.
Jake |
I thought so----but Bob came though and proved not to be a troll--a good thing.
[Edited on 8-16-2011 by DianaT]
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woody with a view
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yep, Shari is legit. i've swung and missed once. got ideas but never pulled the trigger. like someone once said, buy now before the babyboomers buy it
all up.
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