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[*] posted on 8-14-2011 at 05:47 PM
San Pedro Martir weather?¿


I got the idea September was the best time to go up to the top of the mountain and camp, explore etc. Anybody know when the most pleasant weather is up at San Pedro Martir?

Also 2 or 3 ideas what to do while at the top of Baja¿




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[*] posted on 8-14-2011 at 05:58 PM


Get Graham's book... Nearer My DOG To Thee http://www.grahammackintosh.com





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[*] posted on 8-14-2011 at 06:25 PM


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Also 2 or 3 ideas what to do while at the top of Baja¿



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[*] posted on 8-14-2011 at 06:46 PM


not available at libraries near you
I looked for it too
not much into Internet ordering myself
must be a good book if I looked in 10 different places for it

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[Edited on 8-15-2011 by David K]




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[*] posted on 8-14-2011 at 06:49 PM
I thought you said it was nice here


I thought you said it was nice here

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[*] posted on 8-14-2011 at 07:44 PM


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I thought you said it was nice here


It is. What's the problem? Doncha like kites?
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[*] posted on 8-15-2011 at 09:02 AM


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not available at libraries near you
I looked for it too
not much into Internet ordering myself
must be a good book if I looked in 10 different places for it

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Originally posted by David K
Get Graham's book... Nearer My DOG To Thee http://www.grahammackintosh.com





[Edited on 8-15-2011 by David K]


Right, you will actually need a debit card or credit card to buy one off the Internet... the author is a Baja Nomad 'Graham'... You can send a check or money order to the address in the web site.

It is the finest source of information on the San Pedro Martir with personal experience of living there for a summer whaile hiking many miles in the timberland of Baja. Eating mushrooms is also documented... and that is all stuff you should dig Chris.

If you have been under a rock, Graham is the Englishman who walked the entire coastline of Baja in early 1980's (wrote 'Into a Desert Place')... then walked from Tecate to Loreto in 1997 with a burro to carry supplies and water (wrote 'Journey with a Baja Burro')... and most recently lived on an island in the Gulf of California (wrote 'Marooned with Very Little Beer').




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[*] posted on 8-15-2011 at 11:59 AM


Jan is the safest time to ride a bike up the mountain :lol::lol:



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[*] posted on 8-16-2011 at 09:20 AM


Quote:
Originally posted by chrisx
not available at libraries near you
I looked for it too
not much into Internet ordering myself
must be a good book if I looked in 10 different places for it

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Get Graham's book... Nearer My DOG To Thee http://www.grahammackintosh.com





[Edited on 8-15-2011 by David K]


You might try calling Discover Baja-619-275-4225. They might have Graham's book on inventory. Good read. They will also try to sell you a membership for $39/yr.




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[*] posted on 8-16-2011 at 09:43 AM


They sell the books to non-members, no hassle, no try to's... IF you are a club member, then there is a discount.

Discover Baja has the largest selection of Baja books and maps for sale, in one spot to walk in customers.




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[*] posted on 8-16-2011 at 11:33 AM


http://www.discoverbaja.com/contact.html
I wonder, If I go to this address next week, Will I find a store room full of books and maps and such, or will I find some desks with computers and people answering phones, IE a mail order place with no store room floor.

If I order something over the phone, it will be shipped to my home address far to the north, and I will collect it in the spring.

Has anyone ever been there?




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[*] posted on 8-16-2011 at 11:54 AM


I would suggest you call or email them directly.
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http://www.discoverbaja.com/contact.html
I wonder, If I go to this address next week, Will I find a store room full of books and maps and such, or will I find some desks with computers and people answering phones, IE a mail order place with no store room floor.

If I order something over the phone, it will be shipped to my home address far to the north, and I will collect it in the spring.

Has anyone ever been there?


I clearly stated that they have the largest selection of Baja books and maps on sale in San Diego... in their office, displayed on the wall as you walk in. They sell to anyone and give a discount to club members. Call first to confirm they have Graham's book in stock or whatever you seek.




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[*] posted on 8-16-2011 at 11:09 PM
Read a good book up there


Perhaps you can freshen up your insults.

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[*] posted on 8-17-2011 at 12:49 AM


September should be a good time of year to visit. My opinion is that August/September is ideal. The plateau elevations are upwards of 8,000' to 9,000', so it is important to be familiar with weather conditions at that altitude.

Temperatures are generally 4 to 5 degrees Farenheit cooler per 1,000' of rise in elevation. So, it could be 110F in the desert to the east and 65 - 70F on the plateau. Days will likely be pleasant, tee-shirt weather, but nights could be chilly, with lows in the 40's.

If there is a monsoonal flow of moist tropical air moving over northern Baja, there can be thunderstorms and hail. Temperatures in the high mountains can drop quickly, so be prepared if you are hiking/backpacking. A common summer weather pattern is for clouds to build in the afternoon, sometimes letting loose in a downpour. Usually brief in duration, but they can be intense.

Mosquitos are usually not as thick in the late summer as they are in spring through early summer.

If you are experienced in routefinding/navigation, I'd recommend a day-hike to the summit of Cerro Botella Azul (Blue Bottle) with its superb views of the desert and Picacho del Diablo, or hike to the meadows of La Encantada and La Grulla.

As a climber, it goes without saying that the ultimate experience is to climb Picacho del Diablo. However, I would not recommend it unless the party has a few Sierra Nevada 3rd class peaks under their belts (or the equivalent). Allow 3 days for a first time ascent from the plateau. If you hike Blue Bottle, then Picacho del Diablo will look tantalizingly close, just begging for you to come back another time, prepared for an ascent.
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[*] posted on 8-17-2011 at 09:19 AM


The normal monsoon we usually get here in the summer has been minimal this year. I agree end of aug and all of sept is the best time. Been pretty hot here the last few weeks, even up at the top its in the mid 20's (C).



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[*] posted on 8-17-2011 at 10:17 AM


I did not clearly read your statement

I did un clearly read the map, showing this store out of the way

thanks for clearly clarifying the unclear

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I clearly stated that they have the largest selection of Baja books and maps on sale in San Diego... in their office, displayed on the wall as you walk in. They sell to anyone and give a discount to club members. Call first to confirm they have Graham's book in stock or whatever you seek.




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[*] posted on 8-17-2011 at 10:25 AM


Now that is a good answer!

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September should be a good time of year to visit. My opinion is that August/September is ideal. The plateau elevations are upwards of 8,000' to 9,000', so it is important to be familiar with weather conditions at that altitude.

Temperatures are generally 4 to 5 degrees Farenheit cooler per 1,000' of rise in elevation. So, it could be 110F in the desert to the east and 65 - 70F on the plateau. Days will likely be pleasant, tee-shirt weather, but nights could be chilly, with lows in the 40's.

If there is a monsoonal flow of moist tropical air moving over northern Baja, there can be thunderstorms and hail. Temperatures in the high mountains can drop quickly, so be prepared if you are hiking/backpacking. A common summer weather pattern is for clouds to build in the afternoon, sometimes letting loose in a downpour. Usually brief in duration, but they can be intense.

Mosquitos are usually not as thick in the late summer as they are in spring through early summer.

If you are experienced in routefinding/navigation, I'd recommend a day-hike to the summit of Cerro Botella Azul (Blue Bottle) with its superb views of the desert and Picacho del Diablo, or hike to the meadows of La Encantada and La Grulla.

As a climber, it goes without saying that the ultimate experience is to climb Picacho del Diablo. However, I would not recommend it unless the party has a few Sierra Nevada 3rd class peaks under their belts (or the equivalent). Allow 3 days for a first time ascent from the plateau. If you hike Blue Bottle, then Picacho del Diablo will look tantalizingly close, just begging for you to come back another time, prepared for an ascent.




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[*] posted on 8-17-2011 at 10:34 AM


hey chris...make sure you drop in and visit astrobaja if you are in their neighbourhood...cool folks and great place.



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[*] posted on 8-17-2011 at 10:39 AM


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Correct me if I am wrong. You rent cabins and camping space. The camping space includes plenty of water for washing and drinking. A person could stop there and camp for 1 night on the way up, and after 7 or 10 days camp again on the way down.

The question is, does one need a reservation, (which is a guess within a day or 2), or does one just show up and ask to rent a camping space?




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