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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
You can drink it, but it needs to be cut substantially. It used to be the only type of alcohol available with wide-spread availablity for medicinal
purposes.
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It's produced to be drunk as well.
Denaturing ethyl alcohol simply makes it undrinkable. Done primarily for tax purposes. I don't know whether that's an issue down here. I know that
many Mexicans drink it as it's the cheapest high available...Or, was.
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chrisx
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As a pot support use broken bicycle spokes. A few used spokes should be free at most any bike shop. With a wind screen, just poke a few 1.8 mm holes
on both sides of the screen. This spokes hold the over lap area together as well. A pot stand can be made with spokes as well. Use 3 spokes, bend in
thirds tape the bent down ends together. A triangle pot support is created.
A spam can is the easiest alcohol stove to make. Remove lid eat spam. The unaltered can makes a low heat fuel conservative stove. Most any small can
should work. More creative people cut holes to create air flow and increase heat output, which decreases fuel economy.
On a 3 day trip this is the lightest way to cook hot food. A person carrying supplies for a longer trip would benefit from an MSR stove. Manufactured
stoves use far less fuel than home made stoves. Fuel is heavy. After ¿¿¿ days the increased weight of fuel would be greater than the increased weight,
( 8 - 16 ounces ), of the MSR stove.
In a winter storm. or as the song goes, ¨when the witch of November comes stealing¨, the MSR XGK, or Dragon Fly is worth every penny and every ounce.
This is summer. That makes my gear 10 ¿ kilos lighter.
Every person should be able to build a fire with wet wood and snow on the ground.
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Just returned from a week's backpack in the high Sierra (Ca). One guy had an alcohol stove, another a propane/butane stove, I had my old MSR
Whisperlite. Propane stove would barely work at cold temperatures, was fine at noon in the sun. Alcohol stove was clean, took a while to boil cold
water, affected by wind even with wind screen. Whisperlite (gas-Coleman fuel) fired up, very hot, boiled cold water quickly, AND the gasoline helped
start the campfire in light rain with wet wood. That ability (fire starting) convinced me to stick with the Whisperlite. Alcohol wouldn't do it. I
have made very small and light weight alcohol stoves from beer cans (Google it) and even a cooking pot from a Foster's can. Very lightweight, but
under serious cold/wet conditions the gasoline is a built-in fire starter. This year big snow, postholing walking, high water crossings, wet meadows,
trails under water, usual high Sierra thunderstorms. Wet, cold, need heat! So, still looking for the best lightweight stove. Over 10 backpacks in the
Sierra this summer and the topic won't go away. Went ultra lightweight several years ago, but still sticking with gasoline fuel.
I cook on a fire when possible
A 10 day supply of fuel as heavy
a small supply of fuel as handy
| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
"I don't think of it as a way to cook trail food"
A little alcohol stove was my only stove on a couple multi-day trips - it is efficient, fool-proof , puts out the heat, and it's clean. It will
perform for your main stove, but for peak efficiency you need the windscreen - too much wasted heat and fuel. I understand about the rocks and stuff,
but a lightweight tin surround will provide what you need. I experimented with chicken wire as a pot support, but it weakened with the heat. There
are some online instructions for a little wood-burning (stick-burning) stove made out of a coffee can that I never finished or used. You would
usually have enough fuel laying about for it, and keep your fire contained and your pots clean. That original design might be impractical to carry
around on a bike, but you could create a folding, stick-burning stove. Use tin sides, improvise the hinges, cut out vent holes at the bottom, and set
a pot support on top - maybe fit into notches on the rim of the stove so they don't move around. Another back-up for your cooking needs.
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HEY GRINGO HIT THE BRAKES
SCAN THE ROAD AHEAD AT ALL TIMES
HIT THE BRAKES AND SLOW WAY DOWN
WAIT, PASS WHEN SAFE
HEY GRINGO HIT THE BRAKES!
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I like the bike spoke ideas - I experimented with a lot of metal - coatings burned off, smoked, they weakened, were too heavy; some not pliable - they
snapped when I tried to bend them, burned up. I'll try these - there's a bike shop 2 blocks from me. Thanks - I think I'll try to finish my wood
burning stove.
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