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[*] posted on 8-26-2011 at 08:19 AM


"... with the vehicle you are driving you need to stay on the paved roads"
Au contraire! A VW bus is perfect for Baja - my first adventures in Baja were in a '66 pop-top. It has some clearance - but be sure to get superior tires - wide, good tread - with spare that matches. Take the back way from Bahia de los Angeles to Mision San Borja - camp en route. Of course, your interests will dictate your destinations. You say you have plenty of time, so you can hit all the "first timer" spots: camping at Los Olivos campground at San Quintin - walk down the street for a meal at Jardin's - happy hour 1/2 price Margaritas; stop at El Rosario grocery stores for ice, beer, tortillas, salsa; go out to Punta Baja for a look-see and camping - a restaruant there maybe a fine fish dinner; on to San Fernando mission, El Marmol, Santa Inez, Santa Rosalillita, Bahia de los Angeles, Laguna Manuela, San Ignacio, Bahia San Ignacio (even without whales it's a great place to camp - a couple miles past the air strip on the coast). Get a version of the Baja Adventure Book (Walt Peterson) - try Alibris.com and have a wonderful time.
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[*] posted on 8-26-2011 at 08:28 AM


Ruben's Camp, in San Felipe is considerably quieter than Pepe's Camp (no dune riders) and they serve a killer "COCO LOCO" a must drink when in San Felipe.
Additionally, I traveled the entire peninsula, dirt roads and all, (including the road to Bahia Tortugas before it was graded) in my 1989 Wesfalia 2WD camper van. This was the most fun camping and surfing in Baja that I've ever had! Air down the tires and when you see a soft area...get a good run at it and power through it. I purchased the 8 gallon sun showers and kept them on top of the rack for immediate hot water. Chunk ice is not that readily available for your ice box. If you have the room, buy a 12 volt refrigerator and plug it in directly to the battery. Get a spare if you haven't done so already.
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2nd, with the vehicle you are driving you need to stay on the paved roads. So if you want to go to San Felipe, you should probably drive from Ensenada to San Felipe and then back to Ensenada

If you are going to camp in San Felipe, Pete's camp is a great camp spot. Good food, Great Cantina and a great vista from the beach




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[*] posted on 8-26-2011 at 08:47 AM


Ah - good times
- en route to Punta Final:

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[*] posted on 8-26-2011 at 09:06 AM


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Ah - good times
- en route to Punta Final:



Awesome... photo in Calamajue Canyon on the older route for Mexico #5 (~1960-1983)!




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[*] posted on 8-26-2011 at 09:10 AM


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Ah - good times
- en route to Punta Final:









Ah how we forget. all the people giving advice is wonderful but I wonder if any of them actually explored Baja in a flip top box. Me thinks thats how all those not so seceret camping and surfing spots were originaly found. those things are known for going places where a tacoma couldnt go.
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[*] posted on 8-26-2011 at 09:22 AM
Important Info for a Newbie


Make sure you have a cold cup big enough to keep a Pacifico Ballena cold and remember candy bar wrappers are hard to remove because the chocolate has melted and hardened several times in the store. Drives me crazy when I need a Snickers fix. ;D
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[*] posted on 8-26-2011 at 10:33 AM


Another little tip. Washboard is HELL! Invest in a set of Bilstein or KYB shocks before ya go.



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[*] posted on 8-26-2011 at 10:52 AM


Lowering your tire air pressure about 1/3 will help with the washboard. (to 20 psi typical)

If you ever get into sand, or on the beach... lowering about 1/2 or more of the air will allow you to drive it. (10-15 psi typical)... Have a good electric air pump to refill... the kind that clips onto the battery, not the cigarette lighter type (unless you are in no hurry).




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[*] posted on 8-26-2011 at 08:40 PM


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Hola!
There is TWO ways to get south! The Sea of Cortez side and there's the Pacific side. Which are you planning....it'll help vastly on the return info you get from here.



[Edited on 8-26-2011 by mcfez]



Mcfez, Baja is like Canada, there is only one road.



One can enter thru Mexicali.......great stops are San Felipe, South San Felipe, Puertecitos, Gonzaga Bay, Punta Final...and many other destinations that offer a great vacation get away.

Once pass Punta Final.....the road leads up to Mex 1 where BoLA is a short distance. Yes....there are two ways to reach southern Baja.




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[*] posted on 8-26-2011 at 09:45 PM


Yeah there are 2 ways but one only goes a little ways before you have to get onto Mex 1 anyway, if you are going south, why waste all that time going from San Felipe to gonzaga then out to Hwy 1 Just take Hwy 1 in the first place. If your only destination is San Felipe or Gonzaga then by all means go that way.

"Yes....there are two ways to reach southern Baja. "


NO there is only one way, Hwy 1 sooner or later you have to get on it while you are still in Baja Norte. unless you are racing the Baja 1000 :lol:
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[*] posted on 8-26-2011 at 11:18 PM


Hi again Kris...

YES..."THE LIST" is invaluable as are all the other things we'll recommend
you take along.

But remember...it ALL adds weight to your vehicle and can cause problems if you're not careful about how much you bring. Create your own list and then double check and pare it down to only what you feel is necessary.

As I wrote in my previous post, some items will depend on where you decide to travel. If your going to be going off-road to the boonies it will obviously be necessary to have certain things. If you stick mostly to Hwy. 1
then you'll need much less.


Again, we await your trip report and pictures...take LOTS of pictures!!!

- When you get back and are ready to post pictures, do a 'post' about posting them and you'll get plenty of help!


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[*] posted on 8-27-2011 at 12:41 PM


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Yeah there are 2 ways but one only goes a little ways before you have to get onto Mex 1 anyway, if you are going south, why waste all that time going from San Felipe to gonzaga then out to Hwy 1 Just take Hwy 1 in the first place. If your only destination is San Felipe or Gonzaga then by all means go that way.

"Yes....there are two ways to reach southern Baja. "


NO there is only one way, Hwy 1 sooner or later you have to get on it while you are still in Baja Norte. unless you are racing the Baja 1000 :lol:



"if you are going south, why waste all that time going from San Felipe"

That's like saying why waste your time driving thru vast cities like TJ, Ensenada, and southward. Traffic, tolls, and a billion folks. Just depends on what the traveler wants. Let's not be so thick here.

Scenic routes are nice too....................................


Mex 5 used to be the main route to the south :light:



[Edited on 8-27-2011 by mcfez]




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[*] posted on 8-27-2011 at 02:42 PM


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Ive gone both ways in both directions many times If Im going south to Baja Sur Im gonna take Hwy 1
I dont waste any time driving through TJ and Ensenada I get through that part as fast as I can.
Going Mex 5 will eat up a couple days and my car/truck/trailer. Although its a scenic drive. The fishing is mediocre(sp) at best. If Gonzaga is my destination then I'll go that way.



"if you are going south, why waste all that time going from San Felipe"

That's like saying why waste your time driving thru vast cities like TJ, Ensenada, and southward. Traffic, tolls, and a billion folks. Just depends on what the traveler wants. Let's not be so thick here.

Scenic routes are nice too....................................


Mex 5 used to be the main route to the south :light:

Comming from the border there are hundreds of routes south


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[*] posted on 8-27-2011 at 05:57 PM


While true that the gulf coast road was a shorter route to the south from the border, the grades south of Puertecitos prevented it from ever being the 'main road south'... 4WD only from Puertecitos to Gonzaga Bay up to 1987, whenn the new road was built. With exceptions from El Rosarito to Rancho Los Angeles via Guerrero Negro and Bahia Concepcion to Insurgentes via Loreto, the Baja Highway in 1973 followed the original 'main peninsular road'.

My dad said those Gonzaga road grades were sure a lot better to drive over than another trip through Laguna Chapala where the silt/ moon dust would swallow our Wagoneer! In '67 for our trip to L.A. Bay, we went south from San Felipe (having driven the 'main road' to La Paz the year before).




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[*] posted on 8-27-2011 at 08:32 PM
we will have plenty of time......


be heading south in September and crossing over mid November. we will be Rollin in 'bad danger' 1978 vw bus, we will have plenty of time, so if anyone has any thoughts, advice, camping spots, etc

Sounds to me they were asking for ideas....heading southward but not exclusively to the cape)......thoughts, advice, camping spots

That's what I gave. Why is that a few here seem to want to make their statement absolute?

There's plenty to do with the route I proposed.....why not? On the return trip home...go the other way...one can see both sides of Baja.

Mex 5 does has some rough miles....30 or so, maybe forty. I seen all sorts of cars on the road...not just 4w drives. The topic is clear here....what the poster is asking for.




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[*] posted on 8-28-2011 at 02:57 AM


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Ah - good times
- en route to Punta Final:



Awesome... photo in Calamajue Canyon on the older route for Mexico #5 (~1960-1983)!


This looks like the salt flat right next to Pt Final. The one that gets wet during only the highest tides.

[Edited on 8-28-2011 by Skipjack Joe]
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[*] posted on 8-28-2011 at 07:42 AM


"looks like the salt flat right next to Pt Final"
I couldn't tell you exactly - there was only one suggested route on my AAA map in 1975, and I got a bee in my bonnet and went. I was with my two children, ages 7 and 8. One time the VDub was on three wheels - one spinning in the air - while traversing some boulders. Saw some horizontal bushes about 40 feet high against a canyon cliff where a water surge had come through. Powered through a lot of sand. I know now the "adventure angels" must have been with us. Ignorance was bliss.
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"looks like the salt flat right next to Pt Final"
I couldn't tell you exactly - there was only one suggested route on my AAA map in 1975, and I got a bee in my bonnet and went. I was with my two children, ages 7 and 8. One time the VDub was on three wheels - one spinning in the air - while traversing some boulders. Saw some horizontal bushes about 40 feet high against a canyon cliff where a water surge had come through. Powered through a lot of sand. I know now the "adventure angels" must have been with us. Ignorance was bliss.


Photo of my 4WD Subaru in Nov. 1979... in Calamajue Canyon... You actually drive in the stream for several miles. I was pre-running the Baja 1000 here:



I have been in Calamajue Canyon in 1967, 1974, 1975, 1979 (when it was the route of 'Hwy. 5') and in 2002.




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[*] posted on 8-28-2011 at 07:31 PM


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Saw some horizontal bushes about 40 feet high against a canyon cliff where a water surge had come through.



Canyon ... Water Surge ....

It does sound like Calamajue Canyon.

There is a salt flat next to cliffs near Pt Final that looks much like the picture. We camped there 2 years ago. Coyotes came by in the evening. The area is easily reached with a VW bus. There is a $5 or $10 charge, can't remember any more. 'Snoopy' is close by, where decent shore fishing can be had at certain times.
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[*] posted on 8-30-2011 at 08:56 AM


khargis... were all excited for u to see all of our favorite things. I would cross at TJ and plan on not stoping til san quintin for great street tacos at lunch, but do watch your stuff and be somewhat guarded here. San Quintin is a large ag comunity and a large methamphedimine problem. IMHO once past San Quintin the "relaxing" Baja begins. anything after that you cant go wrong. with your kind of time make it to la paz. Concepcion bay in october will be hard to leave. Get a panga out of loreto and spend a few hours on isla coronados, you will think your in the carribean. Oct water temps are perfect for swimming, bring a mask and snorkel for the cortez side! Get a AAA travel guide of Baja (I know kind of lame but it will give you info about places) take lots of pictures and take your time. We all envy you right now.
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