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Skipjack Joe
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It was hot at Lee Vining this weekend. Mono Lake shimmering in the heat. It was glorious!
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
It was hot at Lee Vining this weekend. Mono Lake shimmering in the heat. It was glorious! |
I rode through there 2 weeks ago on a M/C trip, totally agree......glorious.
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Russ
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Just hit 100º at 1:25
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
Just hit 100º at 1:25 |
Yeah....but it's "Dry Heat."
Here's another picture of "Dry Heat."
http://tinyurl.com/3ff4xt9
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It's summer! All these histronics about Anthropogenic Global Warming brings to mind the story of "Chicken Little". Something about the sky is falling?
Get a grip. Was born and raised in the south. Didn't have air conditioning till I was in my teens. I know what heat is. Shed a few pounds of blubber
and find some shade.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
Strange times.
Weird heat all over the globe. It's dang near 90F in north North Dakota. Not much incentive to go out goose-hunting.
I got word that Rome is hotter'n the inside of a cow. |
and now we all know that al gore was right and republican party platform is wrong! |
I, for one, totally agree with you. |
Holy Sheeeeet. my condo just shook.
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SFandH
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
Strange times.
Weird heat all over the globe. It's dang near 90F in north North Dakota. Not much incentive to go out goose-hunting.
I got word that Rome is hotter'n the inside of a cow. |
and now we all know that al gore was right and republican party platform is wrong! |
I, for one, totally agree with you. |
A significant statement coming from a true outdoorsman and nature lover that is in tune with the environment.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SFandH
A significant statement coming from a true outdoorsman and nature lover that is in tune with the environment. |
Waddya mean by that? No offense to Roger, but when he goes into the environment, he goes in to kill.
If three hundred million Americans did that.....what would be left?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by SFandH
A significant statement coming from a true outdoorsman and nature lover that is in tune with the environment. |
Waddya mean by that? No offense to Roger, but when he goes into the environment, he goes in to kill.
If three hundred million Americans did that.....what would be left? |
i thought the great white hunter quit nomadlandia, didn't he?
encouraging to see that he has returned and now agrees with me.
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Pompano
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Now how the hell can I NOT take offense at such a ignorant and foolish statement?
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by SFandH
A significant statement coming from a true outdoorsman and nature lover that is in tune with the environment. |
Waddya mean by that? No offense to Roger, but when he goes into the environment, he goes in to kill.
If three hundred million Americans did that.....what would be left? |
DENNIS...I DO take great offense at such a remark. I thought you were better than that..or at least knew me better from my past posts on Bajanomad
regarding fishing, hunting and the outdoors in general.
But, reading that statement about 'He goes in to kill' made me write this ..but I won't hijack this thread to get into a ******* war with you. I will,
however, gladly do it on another thread about Hunting that I intend to start manana..or the next day..or week..whatever.
Your remark: "If three hundred million Americans did that.....what would be left?" tells me you are not aware of the vital and essential support with
money and labor hunters give to the natural environment. Example: The three of us hunting Canadas (honkers) the other day...Munga, Randy, and
I...contribute a very hefty sum each year to many local and federal wildlife refuges.
Also Ducks Unlimited direct monies and more at dinners/auctions $$$$!!, Pheasants Forever, Trout Unlimited, and dozens more..not to mention the high
excise taxes we gladly pay on ammunition, gun sales, hunting licenses, and all kinds of sporting gear.
Nationwide US hunters alone generate 80 billion dollars a year to perpetuate wildlife. Most people talk the talk about game preservation, habitat
creation and conservation..we walk the walk. Randy and I personally contribute to a certain Saskatchewan duck habitat area that produces thousands
of ducks & geese each and every year since we started in 1979. I am damn proud of those fall flights of Canada born mallards, pintails, and
honkers that buzz my decoys in the early morning light of North Dakota.
Okay, okay I'm getting a little too intense here..but this subject is important for the uninformed population of America to understand...but I need to
take a break from this thread. Not fair to the OP.
Besides...The last two days are kind of a new start on life for me ...and the reason I started posting here again. A very special reason that you
don't need to know about.
Anyway, Dennis I think maybe you are just bored and baiting me with such an obviously stupid and false statement. That okay and good enough, I feel
very comfortable talking about something as important to America as hunting ...in it's true sense concerning reverance of nature by anyone worthy of
the name..hunter. I, of course, exclude slobs...you know who you are.
Quickly now...To summarize 'why I go into the environment' as you say...I don't go into it..I live in it. I was born into it with
parents who revered all living things and were perfectly in tune with our natural surroundings. Perhaps you were not as lucky as I to have such a
unique and rewarding upbringing...if that is so, than I feel your loss, while respecting your right to opine on the subject, regardless of your
knowledge of the same.
Summarizing for that next thread soon to come..this is more in tune with Why I go into the environment..meaning The Hunt:
(Excuse me here...I am 'assuming' you meant hunting, right?..but I definetely do not go in for the KILL. Far, far from it, although indeed a final
KILL is very important too..which we will also discuss at length ..ad nauseum to most , no doubt.)
For me, I will poorly and incompletely summarize below as to why I hunt...ergo: 'go into the environment' 
Development of Relationships
Solitude
Spiritual Renewal
Camraderie
Self Awareness
Photography for my soul
..to name just a few important ones...but there are many, many more all of which stem from childhood and introduction to a love of wilderness.
Kill? Hell yes, but not as you think, amigo.
My apologies to the original poster and all reading for this hijack.
[Edited on 9-8-2011 by Pompano]
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
For me, I will poorly and incompletely summarize below as to why I hunt...ergo: 'go into the environment'
Development of Relationships
Solitude
Spiritual Renewal
Camraderie
Self Awareness
Photography for my soul
..to name just a few important ones...but there are many, many more all of which stem from childhood and introduction to a love of wilderness.
Kill? Hell yes,
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i and many others have enjoyed the wilderness without needing to hunt.
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Pompano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
i and many others have enjoyed the wilderness without needing to hunt. |
I, for one, totally agree with you.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
It's summer! All these histronics about Anthropogenic Global Warming brings to mind the story of "Chicken Little". Something about the sky is falling?
Get a grip. Was born and raised in the south. Didn't have air conditioning till I was in my teens. I know what heat is. Shed a few pounds of blubber
and find some shade. |
Exactamundo! And those record temps posted here seem to be way old; like 50-90 years?? BTW 58º in San Francisco last week and so breezy I shivered
through my run in GG Park.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by SFandH
A significant statement coming from a true outdoorsman and nature lover that is in tune with the environment. |
Waddya mean by that? No offense to Roger, but when he goes into the environment, he goes in to kill.
If three hundred million Americans did that.....what would be left? |
I, for one, totally agree with you.
Sport??? Gramps is taking huge liberties with the misuse of the word sport.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by drarroyo
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by SFandH
A significant statement coming from a true outdoorsman and nature lover that is in tune with the environment. |
Waddya mean by that? No offense to Roger, but when he goes into the environment, he goes in to kill.
If three hundred million Americans did that.....what would be left? |
I, for one, totally agree with you.
Sport??? Gramps is taking huge liberties with the misuse of the word sport. |
That is what State Fish & Game folks are there for----to prevent the exploitation of game species---------they permit to hunt only the number of
folks that would result in proper game management of the species, theoretically anyway. If 300 Million wanted to "hunt" they would be very
disappointed as they might get a permit about once every 20 years.
Barry
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
It's summer! All these histronics about Anthropogenic Global Warming brings to mind the story of "Chicken Little". Something about the sky is falling?
Get a grip. Was born and raised in the south. Didn't have air conditioning till I was in my teens. I know what heat is. Shed a few pounds of blubber
and find some shade. |
Who said anything about global warming?
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Skipjack Joe
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There are 2 issues here:
1. the morality of hunting - the right or wrong of killing as sport.
2. the enthics of hunting - good and bad game management.
Group 1 states his position and group 2 answers with his position. But the two aren't talking about the same thing.
Game management has nothing to do with the morality of killing. The goal is to maintain a healthy population. If that means culling 10-20% of the
entire population to strengthen the rest, then it is done with a clean conscience. No different than with animal husbandry.
BTW, regarding the 300 million that all decide to kill? They do. Every day they step into safeway.
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SFandH
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
BTW, regarding the 300 million that all decide to kill? They do. Every day they step into safeway. |
and buy pieces of dead animals to eat. Not everybody does that.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
BTW, regarding the 300 million that all decide to kill? They do. Every day they step into safeway. |
Kinda depends on the shopping list, Igor. Besides....how many hunters are cognizant of "Game Management" when they're out there shooting the a-ss off
of Bambi with their new Weatherby?
Not many, I'm willing to bet.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
BTW, regarding the 300 million that all decide to kill? They do. Every day they step into safeway. |
Kinda depends on the shopping list, Igor. Besides....how many hunters are cognizant of "Game Management" when they're out there shooting the a-ss off
of Bambi with their new Weatherby?
Not many, I'm willing to bet. |
Well, they better be, Dennis. Big Fines for not paying attention. There will always be rebels that take risks and break the law, and hopefully they
pay for their anti-social behavior, sooner or later.
I don't hunt, never had the urge to, but I have no problem with those that do-----legally, that is.
SkipJack has it right. (I think, can't see his post while typing this)
barry
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