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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MitchMan
I will say it again, Woooosh, "Geez Louise, that's alot of money for electricty!" |
Where the hell did you come from?
Did you live in a cave somewhere?
I was paying $250.00 a month in Sacramento in the 80's for a 2000+ sq Ft home.
Were you ,by any cance, a consultant to the " Mexico on $6 a day " book ?
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
| Quote: | Originally posted by MitchMan
I will say it again, Woooosh, "Geez Louise, that's alot of money for electricty!" |
Where the hell did you come from?
Did you live in a cave somewhere?
I was paying $250.00 a month in Sacramento in the 80's for a 2000+ sq Ft home.
Were you ,by any cance, a consultant to the " Mexico on $6 a day " book ? |
8225 pesos / 13 Pesos per dollar / 2 months service = $325 USD a month. Not enough to make the conversion to solar/electric practical.
[Edited on 9-22-2011 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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MitchMan
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Vandenberg,
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zoesterone
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Sheesh. Just moved here from Mazatlan and in the height of summer, using AC at night and fans during the day, my highest CFE was $700 with the rest of
the year averaging $114 pesos. If bills are that high here, that is a killer! We turned off one of the water heaters and will turn off the other
during the day, which should save some. House is all electric. Yikes. First bill will arrive in Oct. We did buy a portable propane heater for the
winter months, though. Maybe we SHOULDN'T have signed a year's lease! 
Dogs are not our whole life, but make our lives whole.
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bajaguy
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Gonna seem a lot colder due to your proximity to the water, it will be a damp cold. Buy another portable heater and a few extra tanks
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
Gonna seem a lot colder due to your proximity to the water, it will be a damp cold. Buy another portable heater and a few extra tanks
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I always thought it was warmer by the water since the ocean is usually much warmer than the night air. There can be a 20° difference from Sauzal and
Guadalupe Valley....around one degree per mile.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Our CFE bill averages the same as yours. We have lots of electronics (computers, TV, etc.) that we leave hot to prevent the corrosion that is always
an issue when living on the ocean.
Also, for security, we turn on big mercury oxide lights outside every night, dusk to sunrise. |
I found an LED replacement for high intensity outdoor security lighting. I replaced our two 400Watt Metal Halide bulbs with two 36Watt LED lamps. I
went from 800 Watt usage to 72 Watts- about ten hours per day (whenever it is dark enough to trigger light sensor). Any math wiz figure out that
theoretical savings? The security lamps had always been a top energy hog- so I hope that is very past tense.
Last night was the first test. The LED lamps give off a much whiter light that does not penetrate as far onto the beach, but it protects the house and
street just as well. I could almost go with only one of them- they are that good. A different quality to the light, but still good.
The LED Lamps are $125 each- about the same price as the 400Watt MH ones. I didn't need to change any of the ballasts- they just screwed in (E40
Base). I do wonder how much energy the ballasts would use- although in theory just enough to power 36 watts.
Very cool to look at. Sadly- from China.
My Old 400Watt MH Bulb and the New 36Watt LED Replacements:
[Edited on 12-3-2011 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MitchMan
C-Urchin,
Glad someone finally brought this issue up. I went round and round with CFE for 4 months about my bill, they finally fixed it. Their billing system
really sucks for them internally and for us as customers. If you notice, they do not give you a running account balance. That is a massive omission
to the integrity of your/our CFE bill and to the integrity of concept of ongoing billing itself.
I take my own readings frequently off the meter itself and keep a meticulous record of such readings together with a running balance reflecting
official billings and payments. I constructed a spreadsheet for this purpose and I have formulas that calculate billing amounts in pesos, USD, and
in KWHs. Not saying you need to do the same, but at least take periodic readings to keep an eye on your ongoing usage, and get a balance printed out
at the CFE office and start keeping track of bilings and payments and maintain your own parallel balance.
Also, I got one of those appliance usage meters (Kill-a-Watt) mentioned above by Dennis and I measured all my appliances in Baja and at my home in
USA. It was an accurate eye opener as to what appliances use how much electricity. Helped curb my usage and considerably lowered billings by
changing certain habits. When I am not in Baja, I have a torchere timed to operate for 6 hours a night, three outside security lights to operate at
night only, and I leave the refrigerator on. My usage thusly in summer months is 2.2 KWH per day. When I am there (in Baja) in summer I use about 18
to 22 KWHs per day and about 5 KWHs per day during cooler months. I run only energy saver lights everywhere, never use incandescents for anything.
Made a huge, huge difference. Buy the energy savers in USA, not Mexico though. Much cheaper in USA.
BTW, electricity in Mexico is cheaper than in USA by alot. It's about $0.07/KWH USD in Baja and about $.12 to $.28/KWH USD in USA, CA.
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FYI----I pay .124 cents a KWH in Redding, CA----one of the cheapest rates in CA, I understand. We are a co-op utility. 2100 sq foot house runs $97
a month year round for electricity. (we "average" payments)
Barry
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
I went from 800 Watt usage to 72 Watts- about ten hours per day (whenever it is dark enough to trigger light sensor). Any math wiz figure out that
theoretical savings? |
So you (theoretically) save about 730 Watts * 10 hours or 7.3 KWH daily. At an average cost of US$ 0.10/ KWH, you save $.73 * 30 or about US$21 per
month. Shouldn't take too long for those puppies to pay for themselves...
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Thanks. I think I pay 2.795 pesos/KWH or 20.7 cents/KWH at my rate-tier (based on 13.5 peso/USD). So it could be twice the savings. Hope so anyway.
[Edited on 12-4-2011 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Thanks. I think I pay 2.795 pesos/KWH or 20.7 cents/KWH at my rate-tier (based on 13.5 peso/USD). |
Holy moly, that upper tier gets expensive! It's folks like you who subsidize the likes of folks like me... thank you!  |
ugh.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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