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Ken Cooke
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Does anyone know the story of "La Llorona"??
Now that the Halloween season is here, I keep hearing about this legend. My Wife briefly discussed it with me, but I was wondering if any Nomads know
more about this subject?
Thanks,
-Ken
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JESSE
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Its a clasic scary tale here in Mexico. A woman who drowns her children, then kills herself and her soul is cursed to wander for eternity looking for
her children. In almost all parts of Mexico, theres reported sightings of her crying at night looking for her children. It is said if you run into la
llorona, she will take you as one of her children.
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JESSE
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[Edited on 10-15-2011 by JESSE]
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Phil S
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Is that the 'early day' Otay Mesa crossing?
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David K
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Way COOL!!!
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gnukid
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I recorded live la llorona by the band blame sally
spooky
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Its a clasic scary tale here in Mexico. A woman who drowns her children, then kills herself and her soul is cursed to wander for eternity looking for
her children. In almost all parts of Mexico, theres reported sightings of her crying at night looking for her children. It is said if you run into la
llorona, she will take you as one of her children. |
Pleasant story for the kids. Develop their Paranoia at an early age.
Or....is this the Mexican way of telling their children to not talk to strangers?
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Its a clasic scary tale here in Mexico. A woman who drowns her children, then kills herself and her soul is cursed to wander for eternity looking for
her children. In almost all parts of Mexico, theres reported sightings of her crying at night looking for her children. It is said if you run into la
llorona, she will take you as one of her children. |
Pleasant story for the kids. Develop their Paranoia at an early age.
Or....is this the Mexican way of telling their children to not talk to strangers? |
Or have mom help you take a bath 
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windgrrl
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Jesse Cook Rendition
Thank you so much for this thread. Sent chills down my spine. I have wondered about the source of the sorrow of this song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLKdxnyrZ5c&feature=fvwre...
When the way comes to an end, then change. Having changed, you pass through.
~ I-Ching
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KASHEYDOG
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I've always liked this version by Jesse Cook.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLKdxnyrZ5c
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Llorona
English lyrics :
English translation
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They all call me black, Llorona,
black, but they think I still care.
They all call me black, Llorona,
black, but they think I still care.
But I am like the green chili, Llorona,
yes, sharp is the flavor I wear.
But I am like the green chili, Llorona,
yes, sharp is the flavor I wear.
My tears they were streaming, Llorona,
from yesterday up till today.
My tears they were streaming, Llorona,
from yesterday up till today.
Yesterday, it all looked wonderfull, Llorona,
now I've turned into a shadow this way.
Yesterday, it all looked wonderfull, Llorona,
now I've turned into a shadow this way.
They say I don't feel the pain, Llorona,
because they don't see me cry.
They say I don't feel the pain, Llorona,
because they don't see me cry.
But even the dead do not cry, Llorona,
though their sorrow is greater than mine.
But even the dead do not cry, Llorona,
though their sorrow is greater than mine.
My tears they were streaming, Llorona,
tear drops in heavenly blue.
My tears they were streaming, Llorona,
tear drops in heavenly blue.
And, though it will cost me my life, Llorona,
I will not forsake my promise to you.
And, though it will cost me my life, Llorona,
I will not forsake my promise to you.
Don\'t mess with the old dog...... Age and skill will always overcome youth and treachery! Brilliance only comes with age and
experience.....  ....  ....
Are you getting the most out of life OR is life getting the most out of you ?? 
Twenty years from now you\'ll be more disappointed by the things you didn\'t do then the things you did.
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Paula
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Here's one more. This is from the Isthmus of Tehuantepec in Oaxaca.
The Spanish you might not understand is not Spanish~~ it's Zapotec.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi4WK5dO5lM
[Edited on 10-15-2011 by Paula]
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Paula
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And another classic version~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFD-HxPpP_U&feature=relat...
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tiotomasbcs
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Similar to The Boogie Man! You tell the kids she/he is gonna get you. If you don't behave! Jesse's pic looks like Ann Margaret?! Recently, a few
Asuncion locals told me about their encounters with La Chupa Cabra! Dia de los
Muertos Rules!! Tio
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elizabeth
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There are a lot of tales referring to La Llorona as a woman who kills her children in revenge when her husband betrays her for another woman...the
same tale as Medea in greek mythology. There is another version equating La Llorona with the Aztec goddess Cihuacoatl who wandered crying in the
night about the destruction of her children which predicted the spanish conquest...Yet another equates La Llorona with Malinche who was supposed to
have killed her young sons when Cortes planned to take them to Spain, and then wandered the lake crying for them...in fact there is no evidence that
Malinche killed her children, and plenty that Cortes took them, so maybe that's why she is crying!
Paula...love the music videos.
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KASHEYDOG
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La Llorona ("The Weeping Woman") is a widespread legend in Mexico, Puerto Rico and Central America. Although several variations exist, the basic story
tells of a beautiful woman by the name of Maria killing her children by drowning them, in order to be with the man that she loved. When the man
rejects her, she kills herself. Challenged at the gates of heaven as to the whereabouts of her children, she is not permitted to enter the afterlife
until she has found them. Maria is forced to wander the Earth for all eternity, searching in vain for her drowned offspring, with her constant weeping
giving her the name "La Llorona".
In some versions of the tale, La Llorona kidnaps wandering children, or children who disobey their parents. People who claim to see her say she comes
out at nights or in the late evenings from rivers or oceans in Mexico. Some believe that those who hear the wails of La Llorona are marked for death,
similar to the Gaelic banshee legend. She is said to cry "Ay, mis hijos!" which translates to "Oh, my children!"
Typically, the legend serves as a cautionary tale on several levels. Parents will warn their children that bad behavior will cause La Llorona to
abduct them,[1] and that being outside after dark will result in her visitation. The tale also warns teenage girls not to be enticed by status,
wealth, material goods, or by men making declarations of love or lavish promises.
Comparisons to other folktales
La Llorona bears a resemblance to the ancient Greek tale of the demonic demigodess Lamia who had an affair with Zeus. Hera, Zeus' wife, learned of the
affair. Hera then forced Zeus to give up the relationship and punished Lamia by forcing her to eat her own children. Out of jealousy over the loss of
her own children, Lamia preys upon human children and devours them if she catches them.[2][3][4] In Greek mythology, Medea killed the two children
fathered by Jason (one of the Argonauts) after he left her for another woman.
Local Aztec folklore possibly influenced the legend; the goddess Cihuacoatl or Coatlicue was said to have appeared shortly prior to the invasion of
Mexico by Hernán Cortés, weeping for her lost children, an omen of the fall of the Aztec empire.
La Llorona is also sometimes identified with La Malinche, the Nahua woman who served as Cortés' interpreter and who some say betrayed Mexico to the
Spanish conquistadors. In one folk story of La Malinche, she becomes Cortés' mistress and bore him a child, only to be abandoned so that he could
marry a Spanish lady (although no evidence exists that La Malinche killed her children). Aztec pride drove La Malinche to acts of vengeance. In this
context, the tale compares the Spanish invasion of Mexico and the demise of indigenous culture after the conquest with La Llorona's loss.
Don\'t mess with the old dog...... Age and skill will always overcome youth and treachery! Brilliance only comes with age and
experience..... .... ....
Are you getting the most out of life OR is life getting the most out of you ??
Twenty years from now you\'ll be more disappointed by the things you didn\'t do then the things you did.
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Ken Cooke
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My wife's family from South America knows of this legend - I wonder if it exists in Spain as well? Scary stuff, indeed!
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sanquintinsince73
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As with most everything on YouTube these days, I don't know if this video is phony but these fellas appear to be crapping little green apples.
http://youtu.be/tXYoNL5vIE0
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vacaenbaja
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sanquintinsince73, have you ever heard of the ghost
story of the guy who takes this girl home from a dance.
She lived across the street from the Evergreen Cemetery.
And as it turned out when he went back to the house
the next day for some forgotten item. He finds out from the
mother that the girl had been dead for some time.
I think that he ended up finding his jacket,that he loaned her because she was cold ,on her grave stone? or something like that? Believe it or not? I
think that it made the papers.
[Edited on 10-28-2011 by vacaenbaja]
[Edited on 10-28-2011 by vacaenbaja]
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sanquintinsince73
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vacaenbaja
sanquintinsince73, have you ever heard of the ghost
story of the guy who takes this girl home from a dance.
She lived across the street from the Evergreen Cemetery.
And as it turned out when he went back to the house
the next day for some forgotten item. He finds out from the
mother that the girl had been dead for some time.
I think that he ended up finding his jacket,that he loaned her because she was cold ,on her grave stone? or something like that? Believe it or not? I
think that it made the papers.
[Edited on 10-28-2011 by vacaenbaja]
[Edited on 10-28-2011 by vacaenbaja] |
Heard that story quite a few times. I grew up near Evergreen Cemetery. The place has very old tombstones and as a matter of fact, that is where the
final scene for Mask starring Cher and Eric Stoltz was filmed. L.A. County operates a crematorium there where all of the unclaimed corpses are
disposed of.
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deportes
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
My wife's family from South America knows of this legend - I wonder if it exists in Spain as well? Scary stuff, indeed! |
Que parte de Sud America es la familia de su Segnora?
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