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[*] posted on 11-4-2011 at 05:33 PM
An Indiscreet Question on an Indelicate Subject


In preparing for a trip to Baja, I learned that in Baja and possibly all of Mexico, toilet paper isn't flushed down the toilet--it's placed in a covered receptacle and taken out with the garbage. The reason given is that the plumbing in Mexico isn't up to handling toilet paper.

This strikes me as rather odd. I've lived in third-world countries and never encountered this before. Presumably, if Mexico has conventional toilets and septic systems, toilet paper should be no problem. It has short fibers and is designed to disintegrate in water. I wonder if the prohibition isn't a holdover, based on the fact that some Mexicans, apparently even now, use newspaper or magazine pages, which could definitely clog the system. If this prohibition has been passed on and never questioned, it could be an artifact.

Are there any plumbing contractors in the audience who could provide an expert opinion, or others who have flushed toilet paper for an extended period with no negative effects on the system?
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[*] posted on 11-4-2011 at 05:41 PM


Great first post, agrd. Welcome to BajaNomad.

It just depends on where you are, I mean....other than the bathroom. Newer plumbing will handle paper and older probably won't. Just look for the recepticle next to the Taza and follow the clues.
If you can't make a decision from what you see, just put the soiled paper in your pocket and dispose of it when you get home. :tumble:
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[*] posted on 11-4-2011 at 05:44 PM


By the way.....toilet paper is less expensive than newspapers down here, so that reasoning is invalid.
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[*] posted on 11-4-2011 at 05:46 PM


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Originally posted by DENNIS
Great first post, agrd. Welcome to BajaNomad.

It just depends on where you are, I mean....other than the bathroom. Newer plumbing will handle paper and older probably won't. Just look for the recepticle next to the Taza and follow the clues.
If you can't make a decision from what you see, just put the soiled paper in your pocket and dispose of it when you get home. :tumble:



thats funny

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i think all you mentioned is correct, with one exception, its not in a covered recepticle, plus bring your own TP
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[*] posted on 11-4-2011 at 05:47 PM


EEWWWE...GROSS!


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Great first post, agrd. Welcome to BajaNomad.

... just put the soiled paper in your pocket and dispose of it when you get home. :tumble:




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[*] posted on 11-4-2011 at 05:51 PM
AH...the Big TP Question....


Here at Posada Concepcion (Mulege) we are told that the sewer lines do not have the proper slope, thus TP will dry up half way down and cause issues in the line before reaching the tank. Our place on the mainland, and on a hillside, they say no problemo senor.
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[*] posted on 11-4-2011 at 05:51 PM


agrd - if you ever live with a septic tank system, you will thank guests who follow the custom. Its just the difference between having to clean the septic tank system of the accumulated junk sooner rather than later.
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[*] posted on 11-4-2011 at 05:52 PM


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its not in a covered recepticle, plus bring your own TP


Most definitly not a covered recepticle. Who in their right mind would touch it to remove the lid? :O
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[*] posted on 11-4-2011 at 05:54 PM


If your digestive tract is functioning properly you don't need toilet paper. Do any other animals have to wipe their behinds? Name one.:biggrin:
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[*] posted on 11-4-2011 at 05:57 PM


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If your digestive tract is functioning properly you don't need toilet paper. Do any other animals have to wipe their behinds? Name one.:biggrin:


I saw a dog in a TV commercial do it on the white carpet. Pretty smart dog, I think. He'd probably have a lot of trouble using Charmin.

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[*] posted on 11-4-2011 at 06:03 PM


without following the link i'm thinking, TOBY!!!!!



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[*] posted on 11-4-2011 at 06:03 PM


DENNIS, That's funny! Saw it to. Todo!!!!:biggrin:
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[*] posted on 11-4-2011 at 06:06 PM


and if your in a classy place in MX, some times they put the brown side down

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[*] posted on 11-4-2011 at 06:12 PM


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If your digestive tract is functioning properly you don't need toilet paper


your shorts must be filthy.
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[*] posted on 11-4-2011 at 06:22 PM


My rule of travel is this:

no receptacle / down that express way to McDonalds.

receptacle / just place it in there.

or....just dont leave your car.

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[*] posted on 11-4-2011 at 06:32 PM


You use toilet paper:O
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[*] posted on 11-4-2011 at 06:42 PM


the correct answer is...

old customs from childhood

in the old days a septic system was a hole in the ground
the "bad stuff" just sat there and "leached"
if you flushed paper it filled the hole in no time

modern 3 chamber systems can clean the "bad stuff"
the paper is eaten by bacteria

the reasons mexicans dont flush is they grew up differently
this is why even home depot and mcdonalds place trash cans in the bathrooms




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[*] posted on 11-4-2011 at 06:43 PM


My Mexican family puts the used TP in a receptacle next to the toilet. Uncovered. My American family thinks that's just too gross for comprehension and flushes it. We built the house with 3" pipes, so no problem either way- just tradition.



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[*] posted on 11-4-2011 at 06:46 PM


Thanks for your replies.
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Newer plumbing will handle paper and older probably won't. Just look for the recepticle next to the Taza and follow the clues.
The thing is, people may put out a receptacle just because everyone else does, even though it may not be necessary?
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By the way.....toilet paper is less expensive than newspapers down here, so that reasoning is invalid.
Probably a lot of the newspapers are discarded or would be purchased anyway? TP would just be an extra expense or one more thing to bring home. I'm sure there's an explanation.
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Here at Posada Concepcion (Mulege) we are told that the sewer lines do not have the proper slope, thus TP will dry up half way down and cause issues in the line before reaching the tank.
Unless these are open ditches, sewer lines are closed, so no one could see inside them, and they're kept continually damp by sewage, so it shouldn't dry.
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if you ever live with a septic tank system, you will thank guests who follow the custom. Its just the difference between having to clean the septic tank system of the accumulated junk sooner rather than later.
I've had a septic system in the US for most of the past 17 years and never had to clean it. It got cleaned once after 10 years and wasn't even close to full. Anyway, I'm happy to have the tank pumped once every few years if it means I can flush the paper.

Has anyone flushed paper even where there was a receptacle and not encountered a problem? I mean, if a system can handle human waste, it surely ought to be able to handle toilet paper.
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[*] posted on 11-4-2011 at 06:47 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by Bob and Susan
the correct answer is...

old customs from childhood

in the old days a septic system was a hole in the ground
the "bad stuff" just sat there and "leached"
if you flushed paper it filled the hole in no time

modern 3 chamber systems can clean the "bad stuff"
the paper is eaten by bacteria

the reasons mexicans dont flush is they grew up differently
this is why even home depot and mcdonalds place trash cans in the bathrooms


That's what I thought. Thanks.
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