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KaceyJ
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Seems like
Sincere question -
For such a small place , it seems like there is an inordinate number of properties that come up for sale in Bahia Asunción
For people in the know, is it just your normal land /real estate speculation at work, or is there an underlying problem??
(seems to have been some friction amongst some there at one time)
Is Bahia Asunción just too inconvenient?
Too many gringos?
Too many canadians?
Too much crime?
Neighborhood politics?
Activities limited by the co-op?
(like the look- but- don't -touch- anything attitude at Abreojos) --this alone keeps me away from abre
Beer shortages?
What gives??
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Lobsterman
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IMO Shari and her bunch. It's her town don't you guys know that by now! So don't pee her off like Diana did. Only the meek can live in a town with
that dominate personality.
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comitan
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Seems like you didn't get what you wanted for Xmas.  
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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shari
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HUH??? that is just ridiculous or as skeet might say... bull pukey... I just love it, have been here a long time and because my husband is from here,
everyone knows us so when properties come up for sale, they contact us to help them find buyers. Lobsterman...what gives with you? bee in your bonnet?
I dont know if Kacey's question is really sincere or just stirring the pot, but I will attempt to answer it sincerely...
I also dont think there is an inordinated number of places for sale...at all. Because it is a newly "discovered" area, and is a lovely village to live
in, more people are interested in buying here so families that have had many properties in their name are selling...there is a new system now and so
families that paid 200 pesos many many years ago to "save" a lot, now are being asked to pay the back taxes or lose the lot. The village catastro is
selling lots to help pay the village workers and keep afloat in these difficult times...when the locals see that people are buying, well, they decide
to sell. These 2 homes now for sale are the first ones to change hands from gringos...it is a growth area and a great place to live to there is more
interest in real estate. There is a family who builds spec houses and is doing a brisk business selling them.
There are more people wanting to buy here than people selling homes. It just so happens Laurieboats wants to do other things like cruise on their
boat. diana mentioned she has another project in mind.
Asuncion is far from an airport and not easy to get to which is why it is still lovely here...there are not many gringos or canadians and most people
who bought here plan to live here either half or full time so it's not speculators....although there certainly have been some people buying lots with
that in mind.
never a beer shortage...water maybe ....but not beer!
yes the coops have a look dont touch policy which is why we still have abalone and healthy lobster stocks...excellent IMHO.
On the whole the expats who live here are wonderful and have integrated into the community and we get along very very well...lots of fun potlucks and
gatherings...but one cannot expect everyone to get along perfectly.
There is very very very little crime and the village is super friendly....not to mention the fishing is pretty darn good.
Both those homes for sale right now are fantastic and will make someone very happy.
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woody with a view
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perfect reply Shari.
we all know there are 3 sides to every story (not refering to this thread, specifically) so what does they expect for a reply? i'm sure there are
underlying issues with ANYPLACE on earth when immigrants are involved. we certainly have issues NOB with immigrants!
anyway, if you go anywhere expecting Shangri-La you will be sorely dissappointed.....
Happy New Year!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
anyway, if you go anywhere expecting Shangri-La you will be sorely dissappointed.....
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woody with a view
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with a happy ending?
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KaceyJ
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lobsterman
IMO Shari and her bunch. It's her town don't you guys know that by now! So don't pee her off like Diana did. Only the meek can live in a town with
that dominate personality. |
lobsterman ,
Not really the kind of info I'm looking for.
Besides, I've yet to meet a "dominate personality" I couldn't handle and wouldn't let such discourage me from an area--- --unless they were a serial
killer.
What Woodie says - there's always 3 sides to a story- however in this case I seem to hear all too often underlying grumblings . And that is all it
is. You know the in one ear and out the other stuff that you don't care to get involved in but leaves a little cerebral question mark.
What I wanted to elicit were opinions from a range of people -from casual visitors to residents past and present- to get a feel for what it's like to
live there - Or want to leave. That's it , simple. Not necessarily interested in the personal bs you find everywhere with people who have too much
time.
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unbob
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
Because it is a newly "discovered" area, and is a lovely village to live in, more people are interested in buying here ... it is a growth area and a
great place to live to there is more interest in real estate.
There are more people wanting to buy here than people selling homes.
There is very very very little crime and the village is super friendly....not to mention the fishing is pretty darn good.
Both those homes for sale right now are fantastic and will make someone very happy. |
Ironic. Your postings
of course only encourages more gringos to populate your "lovely village to live in" - which in turn ultimately degrades the quality of life in your
community. Bottom line: $$$ talks and people need to survive and that will never change. Sad but true. Que Sera, Sera.
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shari
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Unbob...have you ever been to Asuncion?
I do not feel that the few expats that live here degrade the quality of life in any way whatsoever...quite the opposite, they have enhanced the
community, made lots of amigos, bring new ideas, have injected cash into the economy, and help out wherever they can and add to the vitality of a
growing village.
Locals here have benefited greatly by selling properties that cost them nothing and with the cash, they are able fix up their own casas, send their
kids to college, fix their cars etc. Call me crazy but through my eyes, these are positive aspects that have enhanced the area.
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bajabass
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I've spent a few days at Shari and Juan's place. They, Stan, and a few of their friends that I met, were all great people. First time into town,
wandering lost, a young local noticed my circling antics. In my terrible Spanish, I asked where Juan and Shari's house was. He promptly led me all the
way across town. Nice. Friendly.
Living full time there will take a commitment that some may not be able to keep. It is remote, so many may try, and some will leave. Hence, homes and
lots for sale. The place is beautiful, and the co-op will help keep it that way. More Canadians and Americans will come, but the town will have to
grow substantially before there would be a mass migration of mainstream ex-pats that want more local conveniences such as airports, malls, big box
stores, movie theaters, not to mention medical facilities to handle serious problems, conditions, ect.
I'd love it there, but Dra. Bajabass needs a larger patient base to draw from.
Keep your eyes on the road, and your hands upon the wheel!
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David K
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I have been to Asuncion... and Shari is the kindest, most generous person you could meet. We don't have any interest in living there because it is a
fisherman's paradise and we aren't fishermen. I know many Nomads who have made Asuncion their second home, so don't dwell on the ONE Nomad who didn't
fit in or her reasons why.
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woody with a view
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DK keep you personal problems out of this discussion, please. and since you can't do it, why not expound on your version of why someone "didn't fit
in, or her reasons why?"
what a tool.
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unbob
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
Unbob...have you ever been to Asuncion?
I do not feel that the few expats that live here degrade the quality of life in any way whatsoever...quite the opposite, they have enhanced the
community, made lots of amigos, bring new ideas, have injected cash into the economy, and help out wherever they can and add to the vitality of a
growing village.
Locals here have benefited greatly by selling properties that cost them nothing and with the cash, they are able fix up their own casas, send their
kids to college, fix their cars etc. Call me crazy but through my eyes, these are positive aspects that have enhanced the area.
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No, I haven't yet visited - though I wish I had. Sounds great. And please don't take my comments as any sort
of put-down of your community. I'm sure it's another little slice of Paradise.
My comments were simply addressing my negativity re the "growth is good" philosophy in our capitalistic society where "more" is always considered
"better". It would be a shame to see Asuncion become a "town" and then a "bustling city". Hopefully, your bliss will remain intact at least during our
lifetime.
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shari
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thank you Unbob...i certainly understand these concerns and we often talk about it. Asuncion has some limiting factors to growth that will most likely
keep things nice...it's not for everyone thank goodness but most of who have bought here are very comfortable and happy.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
DK keep you personal problems out of this discussion, please. and since you can't do it, why not expound on your version of why someone "didn't fit
in, or her reasons why?"
what a tool. |
I said nothing of my personal problems...??? 
I consider Shari a friend... and I have seen how much she has helped Nomads to discover and enjoy Asuncion. For one person to not get along with the
rest of the Nomad community and to be credited by 'Lobsterman' as a valid reason for blaming Shari on her (or anyone else's) decision to leave
Asuncion is pretty warped...
I thought you liked Juan and Shari, Woody? Do you put the one negative Nomad ahead of hundreds of positive Asuncion reporting Nomads?
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dtbushpilot
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
DK keep you personal problems out of this discussion, please. and since you can't do it, why not expound on your version of why someone "didn't fit
in, or her reasons why?"
what a tool. |
What woody said....
Geeeezz DK, it's getting harder and harder to be your ally, you really should try thinking before you post......
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all!
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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woody with a view
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i happen to be friends with both camps.
i won't take sides in something i know little to nothing about. something to consider yourself, on occasion?
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Islandbuilder
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It's an interesting quirk of human nature that we continue to seek "perfect" community, in the face of thousands of years of human history showing
that we just can't live together in anything resembling perfect peace.
I no longer expect to find a community in which there is no friction or disagreement. If I ever DID find one, I would just mess it up by moving into
it!
All we can hope for is that we express our disagreements in respectful ways, and usually, that respect is born of shared life experience. And that, my
friends, is more likely to happen in the fishbowl existence of a small village than it is in the anonymity of urban life.
It is my experience that the folks who have dominant personalites struggle with others wired the same way. Small towns, especially those which are
remote and essentially a "closed system" are especially difficult for some, because there is no safe place to vent and we deal with the folks we may
be in conflict with on a daily basis. That's small towns everywhere, not just in Baja.
It takes some specific personal wiring to make it work, and for most of us, the only way to find out if we can do it, is to jump in and try. After
living on a small island for almost 25 years, I am small town to the core, and I'm pretty sure I can be happy in a place like BA. But, if you're
coming from a large town, where your connections with others are based more on shared interests and activities, or on world views and politics, you
should rent in a small place for a while to see if it's right for you.
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Islandbuilder
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I gotta say that the reactions to DK's post seem over the top, in the context of this thread. If you guys are shading DK's comments based on other
posts in other threads I suggest you too, think before you post. It disrespects those of us who are new and aren't yet parts of anyone's clique by
waging gorilla wars across the breadth of the board.
I have read and enjoyed posts by everyone here, DK and Woody in particular. Please don't fight in front of the kids.
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