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border crossing with stuff
I am bringing back with me to El Burro a new refrigerator, a new house generator and an internet satellite dish. Currently the refrigerator is in the
original shipping crate and the generator and satellite dish are in shipping boxes. It is obvious that these 3 items are brand new. I am crossing the
border in a motorhome with tow car. I would like to leave the refrigerator in the shipping crate but I can remove it and make it look like more like a
second motorhome refrigerator. I will cross at Tecate. Any opinions as to whether to "unwrap" the new stuff?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by absinvestor
I am bringing back with me to El Burro a new refrigerator, a new house generator and an internet satellite dish. Currently the refrigerator is in the
original shipping crate and the generator and satellite dish are in shipping boxes. It is obvious that these 3 items are brand new. I am crossing the
border in a motorhome with tow car. I would like to leave the refrigerator in the shipping crate but I can remove it and make it look like more like a
second motorhome refrigerator. I will cross at Tecate. Any opinions as to whether to "unwrap" the new stuff? |
Sure. Make it look used. Throw a six-pak in there if it will soothe your conscience. Make up a few "adjusted" receipts as well.
While you're doing these things, keep in mind your country-men who are being extorted by cops in Mexico for not having their dogs in freakin' seat
belts, or didn't stop at invisible stop signs.
The days of searching for moral high ground are over. It's all about the money now.
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absinvestor
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Thanks. Looking at the drinks the wife has bought to bring back we'll have many items to put in that extra refrig.
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Or you could abide by local laws and just offer to pay the tax... Even easier, is to buy these things in Mexico? Whichever is cheaper, I guess?
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we just crossed 2 days ago with a bunch of new items .... "officially" we were told that we had the right to $150.00 each
The customs inspector asked us how much we had and then he actually lowered it a bit and taxed us on the lower amount LOL
we came out waaaaaaaaaay ahead. whew.
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absinvestor
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David K- I was more worried about the hassle and time delay than paying the tax.(Trying to park a motorhome with tow car in Tecate is a real
challenge!) I wanted a certain brand of a propane refrig that was not available in Mexico. The generator and satellite dish are portable and will be
used as much in the US as in Mexico but the refrigerator will be permanently used in Mexico. Guess I should be more familar with the local laws- what
Mexican tax would I legally owe and where and how would I pay it??
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The tax is somewher near 16 to 17%. The sat dishes that I have brought accross have never been a problem. Generators, they always seem to look at. I
would take the refer out of the crate and make it look like it was being used in the motor home. Who knows at Tecate you may just get the green light
and go right through. If you do get questioned about values just be aware that they have the ability to check prices of things on the internet, so you
can't low ball it too much.
Good luck
Larry
PS the tax is paid right there at the border crossing, you'll get a reciept and everything.
[Edited on 12-30-2011 by larryC]
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David K
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What Larry said...
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absinvestor
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Thanks. Helpful info as alway. Ron
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by absinvestor
I am bringing back with me to El Burro a new refrigerator, a new house generator and an internet satellite dish. Currently the refrigerator is in the
original shipping crate and the generator and satellite dish are in shipping boxes. It is obvious that these 3 items are brand new. I am crossing the
border in a motorhome with tow car. I would like to leave the refrigerator in the shipping crate but I can remove it and make it look like more like a
second motorhome refrigerator. I will cross at Tecate. Any opinions as to whether to "unwrap" the new stuff? |
Sure. Make it look used. Throw a six-pak in there if it will soothe your conscience. Make up a few "adjusted" receipts as well.
While you're doing these things, keep in mind your country-men who are being extorted by cops in Mexico for not having their dogs in freakin' seat
belts, or didn't stop at invisible stop signs.
The days of searching for moral high ground are over. It's all about the money now. |
I'm with Dennis... take a shot at a green light and drive right through if you can. The refer will be "used" or "in use" and as you said, the
satellite dish and portable generator will go back and forth with you across the border and is not meant to be left behind in Mexico. Unlike the USA,
there is no shame in trying to get around paying a fee. They expect you to try to get through without paying and will treat you just as nice if you
get caught as if you had pulled over to the "declaration lane" straight away.
[Edited on 12-30-2011 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Unlike the USA, there is no shame in trying to get around paying a fee. They expect you to try to get through without paying and will treat you just
as nice if you get caught as if you had pulled over to the "declaration lane" straight away.
[Edited on 12-30-2011 by Woooosh] |
Bingo!
Still, have your paperwork in order and be prepared for the red light scenario. No sweat.
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Maybe I was wrong, but I thought it was a game from the start!
My washing machine had never been wet, but by the time I was through antiquing it and packing it so the lid couldn't be opened, it went through on
it's "adjusted" receipt without even a raised eyebrow. Cheap!
I once took almost all the materials for a 7 x 8 foot bodega disguised as a 48" tall "camper shell" on my PU bed utility trailer!
I paid duty on the contents, some studs and siding, a concrete mixer, but the rafters, roofing, windows, right down to the Simpson hardware was
screwed into the "camper".
I say enjoy the game. For many years, almost all of our extra money went into traveling to and building a casita in Mexico. Thousands of dollars, a
few hundred pesos at a time, was plugged into the Loreto economy as our primary shopping spot. To make it possible for us to do that, I saved all I
could at the border.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Everything is negoiated............depends on who you are talking to at the moment. Just be prepared to pay "something" WE have taken lots of things
through, some big and some small. the big stuff we declared and hummmmmmm different everytime. Enjoy the adventure!!!!!!!!!!! Nancy
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Yea, the percentage Mexico charges to bring things into Mexico should be the same for them on the way into the USA. The percentage which is close to
17% is high and just another means to get into your pocket. However, what the heck didn't we just give Mexico the NAFTA agreement because it was all
in favor of USA, Yea Right!! LOL Have friends that do trucking business and they won't agree with anyone that NAFTA was good for American Business.
I guess what I am saying is that as usual the USA does itself in and does not make other Countries not just Mexico play fair back with us. We won't
even discuss China because our dealings with them are totally worse than anything we have done with Mexico.
If you do not have receipts go to a store that sells the make of whatever you have and pull sales receipt of them to put on your things. We did this
with a washer and dryer we took over and there was no problem. Make sure you have Mexican Money as they make you pay at the bank for whatever they
charge if they do it the correct way. Seems like the old days of $20 dollars slipping into someones hand to cross something over without all the B.S.
is gone which is probably a good thing in some areas,LOL. Take Care & Travel Safe---- "No Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN" bajafun777
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propane
hola,and not long ago the "game" the other direction,,getting freon, back across the border into Sd by pianting the bottle's (freon) to look like
propane...LOL.......K&T
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Thanks but Larry C and BajaFun seem to have a difference of opinion on where the money is paid. The nearest bank is 3 or 4 blocks away and parking a
larger motorhome with tow car at the bank could be a nightmare. Does anybody know for sure whether it is paid at the bank or border crossing. (If I
need to drive and park at the bank I may leave the car on the US side and return for it??) Thanks again for all the good info.
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Also, I was going to cross on Sunday and the bank would not be open?
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http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=55856&pag...
Update on Taking Imports Through Tecate -
In a word - Easy. (With an interesting twist at the end!)
As stated in my original question, I was more concerned about the parking for two full sized pickups, both with trailers, rather than the importation
process itself.
We arrived at the border at about 7:30 am and were the only ones in the DECLARE area. Plenty of room to park the two trailers. One parked in the
actual lane under the roof structure. The other one farther back in the lane leaving a gap for the semi truck traffic crossing right to left on their
way to the US crossing.
I had two lists/manifests/receipts prepared, one for each vehicle. One list had six items for about $700 USD. The other list had about 25 items for
about $1,500 USD.
When I entered the Aduana office, there were three officials standing there having coffee around a plate of donuts/pastries on the counter. They all
kinda glanced at each other trying to decide who was going to have their breakfast interrupted. They looked at the stacks of papers I put on the
counter and finally one put down his cup and said "let's go look". He took a quick look in the truck parked at the office, (with the short list),
looked up the road at the other truck and must have decided that the 150 ft was too far to walk and that his coffee was getting cold.
We returned to the office, they nodded to me and toward the platter, the officer filled out the declaration form, and I had a piece of pastry. Walked
next door to the bank, HSBC, paid with pesos, No Dollars Accepted, and returned to Aduana.
The fee was about 1/3 of what I expected and on the way back into the office realized that the declaration/payment was only for the first vehicle with
the $700 value. I pointed this out and distinctly said that I wanted to process both without moving the two trailers.
The officer just shrugged his shoulders, and said in english, "Oh, just go. You'll probably get the green light anyway." And continued breakfast
discussions with the other guys!
[Edited on 11-14-2011 by RnR]
To ElCap - Sorry, just noticed your U2U from about two weeks ago. Hope everything went well.
[Edited on 11-14-2011 by RnR]
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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When I said that the tax is paid right there, I was thinking of San Ysidro, my bad, Tecate is probably different. San ysidro is really easy for me, so
that is where I usually cross when heading south.
Larry
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Blanca mentioned that they told her she gets 150 Per Person exemption.......last time I checked its 75 per person did something change? Or is this
fee she was quoted maybe for Mexcian Citizens???
Derek
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