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Jeez, dk. I hardly think it's fair to say that if you don't want to drive dirt roads (or are unequipped for it), why go to Baja? I thought yoU were
the pied piper of Baja? Promoting tourism and wishing everyone would do all they can to bring income south?
My first trip, with my family and a Coleman pop up camper in July, was one of the best I've eve had. And aside from the stretch between the town of
Bahia and La Gringa, and the road between San Jose del Cabo and La Ribera, we saw no dirt whatsoever!
I know you're into YOUR way of doing things, but there's a whole world out there, and many different ways to enjoy onself. For example, I still don't
give flying flock about the Missions, lost or otherwise.
[Edited on 1-16-2012 by Roberto]
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john68
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thanks to everyone for the clarification on the road conditions from Gonzaga to Hwy 1. I read somewhere that it was a five-hour ordeal and that is a
little much for me. We're accustomed to washboard roads in the East Cape and forest service roads in Colorado, but we're not equipped with serious
skid plates and a winch and wanted to be sure that wasn't the case.
We're anxious to see some new scenery.
thanks, again.
John
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hey jonh. i doubt you'll need a winch (wench?) or skidplate on that road. pucker up and check it out. just go slow(er) with a trailer.
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john68
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Woody--
I'll be taking my wench of 44 years duration, but no winch, and will take it slow.
thanks.
John
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attaboy! take some pics and report back when you return.
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John68:
You will not!!....need skid plates or a winch. We drove the old THAT ROAD before it was fixed for years without them and you certainly don't need
them now. David K has given you the numbers from Puertecitos to Gonzaga Bay and on to Highway one...they are accurate. On the 14 miles of road south
of Puertecitos to Gonzaga Bay there are only two or three spots where you will have to be careful with your trailer. There is washboard too...14
miles of it to Gonzaga Bay and another 31-35 to Mex 1. But it has been graded pretty well. If you go slow your trailer should be OK..just bring
spares.
The good part of the road south of Puertecitos is newly paved and if it were four lanes it would be a freeway...no problema.!!.
Just go.
BB
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john68
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thanks, again, for all the great advice.
I'll let you know how it goes.
John
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Made my bones on "that road". Rattled apart my bull guard in two places and put a dent in my skid plate that my mechanic said was 1/8" away from
major damage. Guess I was going along a bit to fast. Someday soon all will be just a memory. Ya can't stop progress. Look a BOLA.
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David K
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Here is the road log San Felipe to Laguna Chapala I did last July.... Note that the End of Pavement has since been extended to approx. Mile 32.0, near
Campo Delfines:
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The following road log was made on the July 4th weekend, 2011.
MILE / KM. Marker
0.0 San Felipe (Traffic Circle by Pemex stations, south turn)
0.8 Pemex station and market on south side of town
6.0 Left Turn off Airport Road, Km. 0
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(add 6.0 miles to following for distance from traffic circle)
The next 45 miles are well paved, but many short, steep and unmarked dips will require reduced speed to avoid damage.
0.0 / Km. 0 Airport Road/ Puertecitos Road Jcn.
12.5 / Km. 20-21 Rancho Percebu Road
15.7 / Km. 26+ Shell Island Road
18.6 / Km. 31 Bahia Santa Maria Road
19.3 / Km. 32+ Nuevo Mazatlan Road
21.5 / Km. 35.5 Colonia Delicias (markets/ restaurants)
29.6 / Km. 49 El Coloradito Road
32.8 / Km. 54 Campo Cristina Road
35.4 / Km. 58.5 Los Olivos Road
36.1 / Km. 60 Arroyo Matomi
36.3 Rancho San Rafael (well)
43.4 / Km. 72 Playa Destiny
44.9 / Km. 74+ PUERTECITOS (paved) Road
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The newest paved additions to Hwy. 5 are well engineered, wide and are designed and signed for high speed. However, frequent rock slides onto pavement
require caution.
0.0 / Km. 74+ Puertecitos Road
5.0 / Km. 83 Bahia Cristina
6.1 / Km. 84.5 La Costilla
7.2 mine road
16.4 El Huerfanito Road
18.9 Bridge at previous end of pavement (July 2010)
20.1 / Km. 311 Change of Km. markers, distance from Mexicali
23.6 / Km. 317
24.1 / Km. 318 END OF PAVED DRIVE JULY 3, 2011, detour onto older road, regraded smooth. Pavement ends just ahead on new roadbed.
25.5 Okie Landing site.
32.0 END OF NEW ROAD CONSTRUCTION and end of smooth dirt detour on older road. *APPROX. END OF PAVED DRIVE JAN. 1, 2012
32.4 Campo Delfines Road
35.6 Las Encantadas Road
37.7 Punta Bufeo Road
42.4 Papa Fernandez' Road, roadbed south of here is better/ faster.
43.6 Miltary Checkpoint
45.0 GONZAGA BAY PEMEX/ ALFONSINA'S ROAD/ RANCHO GRANDE MARKET (Pemex closed from 2-4 pm for siesta)
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0.0 Gonzaga Bay Pemex
1.2 Road left to Campo Beluga (2.0 mi.) and El Sacrificio (4.2 mi.)
7.1 Road right to Las Palmitas Oasis (4.7 mi.) and Santa Maria Canyon (4.0 mi.).
14.4 First Boojum Trees on Hwy. 5.
14.6 La Turquesa Canyon Road, right.
18.4 Las Arrastras (site) Road, right.
22.1 Coco's Corner (Puerto Calamajue and Mision Calamajue road left).
34.8 Hwy. 1, Laguna Chapala (Cataviņa is 33 miles north).
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san felipe - gonzaga bay - hwy 1
we were told "it's a rough road... just take it slowly." that's an understatement! we did it in a '92 f250 w/ a cabover camper - ouch! maybe if
we'd just had a new truck + camper shell
we've a healthy respect for all the amigos who've done this over the years, especially those who maneuvered their 5th wheels & travel trailers all
the way to the beautiful bay! coco told us 'back in the day,' it would have taken us over a week to make this same trip. fyi, took an hr and a half
from campo los delfines (end of paved road) to pemex at rancho grande... today's trek took almost 5 hrs to get from there back over to hwy 1 (with
brief visit at coco's corner). other than cabinets opening & dumping contents twice, it was a very slow trip thru beautiful, rugged scenery -
surprisingly green, perfect temps. made it to g.n. safe & sound but suggest you take hwy 1 with your boat! onward to 'clam bay'...
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p.s. - air for tires
very nice man (llantera) with compressor a km. or so south of lake chapala road on hwy 1 - he was happy to provide air to reinflate our tires.
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very nice man (llantera) with compressor a km. or so south of lake chapala road on hwy 1 - he was happy to provide air to reinflate our tires.
That guys the man. He's helped us before.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by eddie
very nice man (llantera) with compressor a km. or so south of lake chapala road on hwy 1 - he was happy to provide air to reinflate our tires.
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I think Bajamatic meant to quote (not copy), but I echo both of your sentiments. And I believe that man's name is Miguel.
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I would not pull a small trailer on that road unless the goal was to stay in Gonzaga Bay.
I just drove the road a week ago in a Toyota Tundra with fox shocks. No problem,..I was able to drive fast to "smooth out the bumps". With a lightly
loaded trailer you will need to go very slowly.
If you do decide to go that route, be sure that you carefully pad any metal objects the could come in contact with your boat or you could get some
damage.
For what it's worth, I live in Western Colorado and drive hundreds, probably thousands of miles of washboard per year.
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That road is GREAT. Take a few days to drive it...as the sights are endless...and things to do ...more so.
We have been broken down on the road...some miles past Coco's a few years back. Found help! There is always somebody who will indeed...drive by.
Be a shame for you NOT to drive this route.
| Quote: | Originally posted by john68
thanks to everyone for the clarification on the road conditions from Gonzaga to Hwy 1. I read somewhere that it was a five-hour ordeal and that is a
little much for me. We're accustomed to washboard roads in the East Cape and forest service roads in Colorado, but we're not equipped with serious
skid plates and a winch and wanted to be sure that wasn't the case.
We're anxious to see some new scenery.
thanks, again.
John |
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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David K
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It is a 2WD GRADED dirt highway... no skid plates or winches needed. Because it has the typical 'washboard' surface, if you tow over it, slow down and
check for loosened nuts and bolts. There is only about 48 miles unpaved between Puertecitos and Hwy. 1... from Campo Delfines to Laguna Chapala.
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Just spoke to a friend who has been through Gonzaga in the last 2 weeks.
He tells me the Pemex was out of gasoline.....can anybody confirm this?
Do they expect a delivery and will they have magna....plan to pass through in 2 weeks or so...
Everbody\'s preachin\' at me that we all wanna git to heaven, trouble is, nobody wants to die to git there.-BB King
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sweetwater
Just spoke to a friend who has been through Gonzaga in the last 2 weeks.
He tells me the Pemex was out of gasoline.....can anybody confirm this?
Do they expect a delivery and will they have magna....plan to pass through in 2 weeks or so... |
You should always plan on no gas south of San Felipe. If the Pemex is out, check across the road at Rancho Grande where they used to sell gas before
the Pemex was opened. They can only sell gas now when the Pemex is out.
Top your tank in San Felipe... Gonzaga is 100 miles south.
The next Pemex south of Gonzaga is Bahia de los Angeles and Villa Jesus Maria, then the Eagle Monument/ Guerrero Negro.
ALSO, independent dealers sell gas from cans at the Bahia de los Angeles Jcn. on Hwy. 1.
Gas was also advertised at Laguna Chapala, just 36 miles from Gonzaga Bay. Again, don't count on it... be prepared... have gas for 300 miles when you
fill up and expect at least 200 miles between gas supplies, just in case!
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