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willardguy
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jeeze micah202 that really sucks. I bet your buddy feels like crap too. for what its worth I would of left my van out there too. course ive made a
career out of doing stupid stuff and refuse to learn from my mistakes. I hope you're the type of person that can put this behind you, I had everything
I own stolen out my van in a oxnard marina parking lot and I'll never get over it. good luck amigo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
Mengano: NO..... no...... and no!
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_car_the-crime-car-thef...
Though Mexico has a lesser population than the US....the numbers are here to judge........more accurately. Just because something happens in
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Let me show you what you missed by not going to college, Deno.
Auto theft rate in Mexico = 140 per 100,000 population
Auto theft rate in USA = 432 per 100,000 population
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Mexico
So, when standardized for population, it looks like the US has three times the auto theft rate as Mexico, right?
Wrong! There is something missing in the analysis. Isn't it important to know how many cars are out there to be stolen?
Vehicles on the road in Mexico = 25.5 million
Vehicles on the road in the US = 255 million
So the US has 10 times more vehicles than Mexico. If we know the populations of each country, we can then run the numbers.
Population of Mexico = 113,724,226
Population of USA = 311,800,000
Number of cars stolen in Mexico = 140 per 100,000 * 113,724,226 = 159,213
Number of cars stolen in USA = 432 per 100,000 * 311,800,000 = 1,346,976
Percentage of total cars that are stolen each year:
Mexico = 159,213/25,500,000 = 0.625%
USA = 1,346,976/255,000,000 = 0.528%
But, I really wasn't talking about car thefts anyway, Deno. I was talking about extortion. In Mexico, just about every business is paying something
to somebody to NOT get robbed, to NOT get burned down, to NOT get the car stolen, to NOT get fined for some BS administrative permit, to NOT get
killed. This all runs under the radar of the BajaNomads.
The entire Mexican society is corrupt, it is like a cancer rotting out the country from the inside. It is why the Mexican government cannot win the
war on drug cartels. Mexico is fighting against it's own people. It is like an autoimmune disease where a person's body attacks itself.
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Spearo
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Mengano...
Its not just Mexican society that is corrupt. In the US, the bribes are called campaign contributions and our gangs are PACs and corporations.
Thanks Citizens United.
We haven't made any progress with our own war on drugs either. We are "fighting our own people" as well. It is in fact the same war on both sides of
the border.
I don't disagree with you about the "cancer rotting out the country." Its just not restricted to Mexico.
Were it not for the abdomen, man would easily reckon himself a god.
Friedrich Nietzsche
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Woooosh
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Although corruption exists pretty much everywhere, very few places have developed it to an artform like Mexico has. It is inseparable from the fabric
of society. It is a stain that cannot be washed out. In the USA you can report corruption or a crime without having to worry if you risk certain
death for being a good citizen. Not so in Mexico. HUGE difference imho.
[Edited on 1-19-2012 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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micah202
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...........never have I been soooooo glad to be in america!!
...the walk-over line-up was daunting,,,but no more than an hour to get through,,and the crossing itself with the emergency passport was easier than
regular crossings.
.........so now for an evening in san Diego,,and a 6am flight to portland/vancouver.
...as I walk around with a little back-pack with my 2 shirts and new socks/undies,,,
,,,I'm inspired to a new,perhaps lighter form of travel
........definitely some new beginnings here!
..........so I'm in the italian district of SanD now,,,flying at 6am,,
,,,so what's fun/safe t'do till then???
.....thanks EVERYONE for your help,,and well wishes
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.....and make sure you keep an eye on that backpack.
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willardguy
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hopefully they dont close your airport,sea-tac is closed
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
| Quote: | Originally posted by micah202
..........so I'm in the italian district of SanD now,,,flying at 6am,,
,,,so what's fun/safe t'do till then???
.....thanks EVERYONE for your help,,and well wishes |
Go hang at the princess pub and people watch.
Get a pizza or pasta at Filippi's.
There is also a place down there, can't remember the name, but you can get uni right out of the urchin... doesn't get any fresher.
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skip the princess pub. go to the waterfront bar on kettner.
if your flight is not until 6 AM, be aware the bars close by 2, so buy a liter of rum to tide you over from 2 to 6 
fyi, their is a pensione in little italy, forget the name, it is kitty corner from princess pub, probably cheap place to stay.
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micah202
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
| Quote: | Originally posted by micah202
..........so I'm in the italian district of SanD now,,,flying at 6am,,
,,,so what's fun/safe t'do till then???
.....thanks EVERYONE for your help,,and well wishes |
Go hang at the princess pub and people watch.
Get a pizza or pasta at Filippi's.
There is also a place down there, can't remember the name, but you can get uni right out of the urchin... doesn't get any fresher.
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skip the princess pub. go to the waterfront bar on kettner.
if your flight is not until 6 AM, be aware the bars close by 2, so buy a liter of rum to tide you over from 2 to 6
fyi, their is a pensione in little italy, forget the name, it is kitty corner from princess pub, probably cheap place to stay.
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...ah,Gracias,,,sounds like some good 'intel'.....
,,,,,looks like I'm 4 blocks from there,,anyone around t'share a beer?
[Edited on 1-19-2012 by micah202]
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Have you considered letting the security guard know that you are offering a reward? It may cost you a bit more than the original protection, but
cheaper than the full replacement.
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micah202
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ILikeMex
Have you considered letting the security guard know that you are offering a reward? It may cost you a bit more than the original protection, but
cheaper than the full replacement. |
...was the first thing I thought of that night,,,within ~30 minutes offered $1000...probably perked someone to the real value
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When we lived in Cuajimalpa, D.F., we had to tip the "velador" who walked thru the neighborhood at night blowing a whistle. this served two purposes;
1) To let us know he was on the job (and wake us up) and 2) to let the burglars know he was coming.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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mcfez
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Well jeez whiz Chucky (Fulano).....All I know is that you sit there in your Romona house all day long...and criticize Mexico. Have you ever left your
porch?
No no and still some more no's
"The entire Mexican society is corrupt"......"entire" Chuck, entire? Get a grip. Get real. We all know that is not true. There are decent, hard
working folks down there in Mexico....dont label them all as corrupt. Gods Chuck...you need a little vacation to chill out...try Disneyland.
"But, I really wasn't talking about car thefts anyway"
Wow...sure sounded like it. perhaps you just like to drift off at times...and we dont see that.
Hey BTW...thanks for all that fine time consuming research. you did "for me". Perhaps Chuck / Fulano...you should print all that at the fulanofiles,
yes?
Not going to college? The fabulous Chuck / Mengano / Fulano here is a walking bogus Wikipedia.......
Guess I'll see you again in the Off Topics.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Mengano
| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
Mengano: NO..... no...... and no!
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_car_the-crime-car-thef...
Though Mexico has a lesser population than the US....the numbers are here to judge........more accurately. Just because something happens in
Mexico...you always make it sound like the end of the world. |
Let me show you what you missed by not going to college, Deno.
Auto theft rate in Mexico = 140 per 100,000 population
Auto theft rate in USA = 432 per 100,000 population
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Mexico
So, when standardized for population, it looks like the US has three times the auto theft rate as Mexico, right?
Wrong! There is something missing in the analysis. Isn't it important to know how many cars are out there to be stolen?
Vehicles on the road in Mexico = 25.5 million
Vehicles on the road in the US = 255 million
So the US has 10 times more vehicles than Mexico. If we know the populations of each country, we can then run the numbers.
Population of Mexico = 113,724,226
Population of USA = 311,800,000
Number of cars stolen in Mexico = 140 per 100,000 * 113,724,226 = 159,213
Number of cars stolen in USA = 432 per 100,000 * 311,800,000 = 1,346,976
Percentage of total cars that are stolen each year:
Mexico = 159,213/25,500,000 = 0.625%
USA = 1,346,976/255,000,000 = 0.528%
But, I really wasn't talking about car thefts anyway, Deno. I was talking about extortion. In Mexico, just about every business is paying something
to somebody to NOT get robbed, to NOT get burned down, to NOT get the car stolen, to NOT get fined for some BS administrative permit, to NOT get
killed. This all runs under the radar of the BajaNomads.
The entire Mexican society is corrupt, it is like a cancer rotting out the country from the inside. It is why the Mexican government cannot win the
war on drug cartels. Mexico is fighting against it's own people. It is like an autoimmune disease where a person's body attacks itself.
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[Edited on 1-19-2012 by mcfez]
[Edited on 1-20-2012 by mcfez]
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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willardguy
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wait, heres my two cents. If you look at everyones list of the most corrupt countries in the world, mexico doesnt even make the list. man its awful
out there. be thankful we got mexico for neighbors. btw north korea and somalia head most lists
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micah202
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...princess pub doing me good........anyone around?
........like the 'green-flash' IPA,,,choked on th'first taste of real hops!
....if yer come down,,I'm the guy with the laptop near the front
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Glad to hear you're in better spirits and don't forget that hefeweitzen is a complete meal in a glass.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by micah202
| Quote: | Originally posted by ILikeMex
Have you considered letting the security guard know that you are offering a reward? It may cost you a bit more than the original protection, but
cheaper than the full replacement. |
...was the first thing I thought of that night,,,within ~30 minutes offered $1000...probably perked someone to the real value |
If the guys in TJ that really stole your van saw the sign for the $1000 reward, they would have come back for it (the money). Seriously.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Ya know Micah202, maybe losing all that "stuff" can be a motivation to do something that you would normally not have done if this incident had not
happened --- make some positive change in your life that you would not have done otherwise. Like "quit smoking"; "quit fornicating"; "quit drinking";
etc. But not all three, This way, this experience could be remembered as a life
changing event FOR THE BETTER, dude. Turn this misfortune into a positive direction... .
Then, you could go off into the far side and look at it as a Buddhist form of "...less is more...", but I'll let Dennis enlighten you on that.
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micah202
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by micah202
| Quote: | Originally posted by ILikeMex
Have you considered letting the security guard know that you are offering a reward? It may cost you a bit more than the original protection, but
cheaper than the full replacement. |
...was the first thing I thought of that night,,,within ~30 minutes offered $1000...probably perked someone to the real value |
If the guys in TJ that really stole your van saw the sign for the $1000 reward, they would have come back for it (the money). Seriously.
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heh,,,,here's whut I wrote the embassy this morning ....
''.....I am VERY ready to come and get the passport as soon as possible.
...I have been staying in the same place for 3 days,,and have been distributing flyers saying 'recompensa $1000us',,,,,,I realize now that I have been
advertising to be kidnapped.
........I will take a secure taxi from your embassy -straight- to the border.,and cross IMMEDIATLY to San Diego,,and stay in a motel near the airport
tonight.
...I wait for your message that the passport is ready and I can cross to usa,,,,I not even go to store for cigarettes!
.....thank-you for all your efforts..........michael'''
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micah202
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| Quote: | Originally posted by O.G.
Ya know Micah202, maybe losing all that "stuff" can be a motivation to do something that you would normally not have done if this incident had not
happened --- make some positive change in your life that you would not have done otherwise. Like "quit smoking"; "quit fornicating"; "quit drinking";
etc. But not all three, This way, this experience could be remembered as a life
changing event FOR THE BETTER, dude. Turn this misfortune into a positive direction... .
Then, you could go off into the far side and look at it as a Buddhist form of "...less is more...", but I'll let Dennis enlighten you on that.
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...kinda enjoyed travelling 'light' today,,,,,rather 'freeing'' I'd say
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