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Guadalajara
Guadalajara
Any one ever been to Guadalajara? Lets face it, if all you do is hang around in Baja you will get bored.
Maybe someone knows of a good Guadalajara forum or web page?
Is there a micro from the Guadalajara airport to zona centro
the fat lady is breeding
which means
The fat ladys are breeding
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41 years ago, went to Guadalajara in a camper... I was only 13, but remember: Traffic circles (crazy), bad drivers (don't wait for a green light to
go), a GIANT mercardo (like 3 levels in a full city block), leather furniture from nearby Telaquepaque (sp?)... Big trailer park full of
norteamericanos...
We drove there via Guaymas, Mazatlan, Tepic/ San Blas... We came back via Zacatecas, Chihuahua and Cd. Juarez. Gone at least a month.
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http://allaboutguadalajara.com/
http://www.answers.com/topic/guadalajara-jalisco
http://www.explore-guadalajara.com/
And several hundred more--
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| Quote: | Originally posted by joerover
Guadalajara
Any one ever been to Guadalajara? Lets face it, if all you do is hang around in Baja you will get bored.
Maybe someone knows of a good Guadalajara forum or web page?
Is there a micro from the Guadalajara airport to zona centro |
Here's a link (in Spanish) where someone asks the same question you have. The first answer given says you are forced to take a cab, but subsequent
answers do give specific instructions on how to get to the airport from several locations in Guadalajara.
Good luck, and enjoy that beautiful city, it's worth the visit.
http://es.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=2007071908550...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by joerover
Guadalajara
Any one ever been to Guadalajara? Lets face it, if all you do is hang around in Baja you will get bored.
Maybe someone knows of a good Guadalajara forum or web page?
Is there a micro from the Guadalajara airport to zona centro |
it's a fun city. has big city culture, great food, great public spaces, museums, etc. (so, yes, way different than baja, much more cosmo). there
are also lots of nice places near the city to visit day-tripping by car. if you are staying in the city you can get around fine by public transport,
but you may want a rental car for day trips outside the city.
i don't know about a forum or web page, just landed their with a lonely planet guide book and adventured onward
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Guadalajara is the second largest city in Mexico. So, for all the good things like universities, shopping, museums, and even English speakers, my
personal experience is that Mexico City is way more fun.
That said, and given that nearby GDL one will encounter what is probably the largest community of US ex-pats in Mexico (Ajijic and Chapala in
general), if someone was planning to be in GDL, it is only a few hours by road to the Sea of Cortez, be it Puerto Vallarta or Manzanillo.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Guadalajara is the second largest city in Mexico. So, for all the good things like universities, shopping, museums, and even English speakers, my
personal experience is that Mexico City is way more fun.
That said, and given that nearby GDL one will encounter what is probably the largest community of US ex-pats in Mexico (Ajijic and Chapala in
general), if someone was planning to be in GDL, it is only a few hours by road to the Sea of Cortez, be it Puerto Vallarta or Manzanillo.
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Maybe call Mazatlan on the Sea of Cortez but PV and Man are open to the Pacific Ocean.........
I hear the whales song
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Go for it! Beautiful city, good food, lots of interesting architecture to take in. We always stayed at the Hotel Frances in the Colonial section of
the city. At the time we went (early 90's) shuttles from the airport were available. Be sure to see the mammoth mercado, food stalls with great food
can be found there. Have fun.
Ken
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Funny thing you posted this: I'm planning a trip in May to Guadalajara tonight. Been there about 15 years ago. Going to visit my wife's family.
Booking manana. I have nothing to add as far as hotels. Drove there alone 15 years ago and this time I'm flying. I remember it being a great old
Mexican town. Im sure you'll find it as I left it.
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Laguna de Chapala is close as is Puerto Vallarta. Good day trips. Have fun. Cities are close on the mainland.
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We were there a couple of years ago. You will have a great time. Great place for fun and food. Go to the city center to see the architecture,
Tilaquepaci for Marichi bands, glass blowing stores and crafts, and the town of Tequila is about an hour away for tasting and tours. We stayed at the
Hotel Tapatio which is located half way between the airport and downtown. It is on the top of a hill that has a 360 degree view of the city.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Guadalajara is the second largest city in Mexico. So, for all the good things like universities, shopping, museums, and even English speakers, my
personal experience is that Mexico City is way more fun.
That said, and given that nearby GDL one will encounter what is probably the largest community of US ex-pats in Mexico (Ajijic and Chapala in
general), if someone was planning to be in GDL, it is only a few hours by road to the Sea of Cortez, be it Puerto Vallarta or Manzanillo.
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I like Guadalajara A LOT, but have I have to agree with you, el D.F. is even better.
The Chapala/Ajijic area has the largest American and Canadian ex-pat community in the world.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by joerover
Guadalajara
Any one ever been to Guadalajara? Lets face it, if all you do is hang around in Baja you will get bored.
Maybe someone knows of a good Guadalajara forum or web page?
Is there a micro from the Guadalajara airport to zona centro |
I've been to Guadalajara many times (used to visit a friend who lived there), the latest of which was Nov. 2011.
There is a lot to do and a lot of places to visit. Tonala, Tlalquepaque and Zapopan are cities that used to surround Guadalajara but were engulfed and
swallowed up by it years ago. Each is worth a day trip and each offers different things.
The Guadalajara Reporter is an English language newspaper that covers the whole region and should give you a good idea of what's going on there.
The forums at MexConnect can be a good source of information as well. They have a board devoted to GDL, activity waxes and wanes, but you can search on
questions you have and see past answers.
There is a Mariachi festival in September. Jalisco claims the Charro as their own, and has an entire street downtown close to the Mercado Libertad
devoted to all things Charro.
The Virgen de Zapopan is #3 on the hit parade of Saints in Mexico and has her Virgen-mobile in which she tours the entire state of Jalisco every year.
Long story dating back to the 1500s and an earthquake.
And you are only a day-trip away from Tequila.
Airport is about 20 minutes south of town. Should be pubic transit to and from centro, cabs are not expensive. Close to the airport is El Chololo
which is a really great birria (goat in this case) place. Huge, barn-like restaurant, easily seats 1,000+. Go on the weekend and stay all afternoon.
Take in a Chivas game if you're there when they're playing. In spite of the Xolos beating them last week, they're a seminal soccer team in Mexico and
a game well worth experiencing.
Just go, see as much as you can, and have a good time 
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It's been about 30 years for me to have been really be immersed in that city for a substantial length of time, being a vagabond/traveler. At the time,
Guadalajara was a fun city; big too. Big cities are great. I can handle the energy for awhile and get up for it, but that is not the tempo that I want
for living. My preference is to spend longer periods in smaller villages and maybe even settle in to live. I have been to Guadalajara since but was
only in transit. It was not enough time so see what changes have transpired. And surely they must have as the times and cultures do evolve.
When there the first time, I was able to quickly learn the bus routes, walk the neighborhoods and also explore the commercial parts of the city. I saw
lots of very interesting things; museums, galleries, bands, shops, wonderful parks, restaurants and the great mercado central.
I stayed in one of those "Mexican-Basic" rooms that was situated on the roof of a small hotel. It had a shared bathroom with a funky shower and tepid
water. The bedroom, or rather, cell, had a wooden platform bed with a thin camper-type mat. You have to provide your own sleeping bag and pillow. A
bare light bulb hung from the ceiling on a frayed cord. You get used to the loud voices, the honking of car and truck horns, and the smells of the
city after awhile. In the early morning the hotel housekeepers or residents would hang sheets, blankets and clothes in the sun in a large area of the
roof. It was just outside my front door, of course! Chatter, laughter and songs were what I woke up to.
Almost every day I would go into the mercado for lunch and soon found a favorite stall. You could sit on a stool in the aisle, or go inside a small,
low-fenced area where there were tables and chairs. I would alternate between the two. The counter offered a crowded and congenial group of locals, a
good view of the food being prepared, and a good rapport between the diners, the waitresses and the cooks; lots of good energy! At other times I would
find a corner table inside, eat the great food, read a book and people watch. Sometimes I would exchange brief conversations with the people at a
nearby table, too.
One day, while walking, I heard orchestra music wafting from open doors across a large parking area. Soon, I discovered it was the rear of the
Symphony Hall. I approached one of the open doors and peered in. It was dark in the audience area but the stage was lit and I could see the orchestra.
I casually walked in and sat alone in the vast auditorium. A couple of enjoyable hours were spent there, listening to The Guadalajara Symphony
rehearsing. It is a world class symphony orchestra. For the time, I was transported into another world, quite apart from Mexico.
One of the most entertaining spectacles I have ever experienced was the Plaza des Mariachis. It was a large park with trees, shrubs and walkways with
benches. There had to be at least 25 Mariachi bands within 20 feet of one another, all in different colorful Mariachi vestidos y sombreros, all
playing a different tune simultaneously, as loudly as they could.
What a cacophony! It was not the sort of place you would go with a companion to carry on a conversation. You could easily become irritated if you were
of such a mind. What I did was to spend time in front of each band through several tunes, listening to their musicianship, comparing their styles. You
have to encapsulate within yourself, isolate the band you are standing next to and enjoy. You have to return more than once. Upon returning a second
time and thereafter, you could find your favorites and spend more time listening to them. It was a great way to spend a sunny afternoon. Oh!...and
then there were the pretty women...
Well, I can tell that this piece has ended because I have become disracted...
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My wife and I went last fall and stayed in Telaqapaque, a lovely bed and breakfast close to the cultural downtown and shopping of cultural treasures
in Tel... We took the local bus over to Tonala where there are huge shopping areas for pots, artwork, furniture and just about anything you might want
for your home. We bought beds, lamps, ceramics, chairs, hand made pillows,equipales, barstools and tables.
The cost of all the stuff we bought for our new house was so much lower and the selection was so broad that we easily paid for our trip and took one
of our Mexican friends with us so she could visit her mother on her birthday. We plan to go back soon as we enjoyed the food, the markets, the
buildings and everything associated with the city.
It is a big place and it was an adventurous taxi ride to our B&B from the airport. But the B&B had printed directions in Spanish to give to
the driver and we got there without a wrong turn. One night we ate at a local home where they set up a grill in the street, and served the food in
their living room. We ate quail, tamales, soup, tortillas, flan, and some other entrees that I've forgotten- $12.00 for both of us. If anyone is
interested in the B&B I'll get the info as we did a tripadvisor review. Volaris has many specials to GDL and we can fly from La Paz for around
$100. Volaris has good connections to the states if you are looking to spend a few days there going to or coming from the states. Check their website.
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"Plaza des Mariachis" - si, the mariachi contest is held in Guadalajara - some groups are "big band" style. I'd go just for the music. As far as a
forum, try lonelyplanet forum. Also, Guadalajara is a good starting point for the Ruta Salud - hot springs in locales east.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Kalypso
el D.F. is even better.
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D>F> ???
the fat lady is breeding
which means
The fat ladys are breeding
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| Quote: | Originally posted by joerover
| Quote: | Originally posted by Kalypso
el D.F. is even better.
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D>F> ??? |
D.F. = Districo Federal = Mexico City
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To be a little more precise, the Distrito Federal (Federal District) is akin to the District of Columbia. It is administered by the Federal
Government, is not a state, and includes Mexico City, but not JUST Mexico City.
http://www.explorandomexico.com/photos/maps/full-df_l(1).gif
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_City
[Edited on 1-26-2012 by Roberto]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
41 years ago, went to Guadalajara in a camper... I was only 13, but remember: Traffic circles (crazy), bad drivers (don't wait for a green light to
go), a GIANT mercardo (like 3 levels in a full city block), leather furniture from nearby Telaquepaque (sp?)... Big trailer park full of
norteamericanos...
We drove there via Guaymas, Mazatlan, Tepic/ San Blas... We came back via Zacatecas, Chihuahua and Cd. Juarez. Gone at least a month.
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Glad we are staying relevant. I was there 7 years ago nd I believe it has changed - probably quiet a bit. Its a big area. treat it as you would
any large city.
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