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shari and all....i'm pretty sure the "rubber band" spears are called hawaiian slings...they sell them in the tackle stores in loreto and los barilles
so makes me think they are cool...i have seen guys using them around the east cape...that's all i have....no spearguns allowed!
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Here's a photo of a rare spear fishing catch.
Long time Baja Sur denizen Tom Merrill, who makes his own guns and fishes alone out of a kayak, got this big wahoo off Isla Cerralvo.
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A Hawaiian sling is more like an underwater slingshot where you fire the projectile with a rubber band from a handle that is retained in the hand. I
have never heard that they were illegal in Baja, though I have never seen anyone hunt with one.
Most of the gringos use band guns (I bring three), what you typically think of as a speargun. Most of the locals use polespears, which is just like
it sounds. Pneumatic guns which propel the spear by compressed air are illegal. It is also illegal to spearfish with scuba gear. 5 fish a day limit
spearfishing, its 10 fish a day hook and line.
Bring at least a full 3mm wetsuit. The water temps in SOC in March are usually 65-75 depending on where you are. I wear a full 3mm suit, a 3mm
shorty over that, socks, hood and gloves plus a 12 lb belt.
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dean miller
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bill erhardt
Here's a photo of a rare spear fishing catch.
Long time Baja Sur denizen Tom Merrill, who makes his own guns and fishes alone out of a kayak, got this big wahoo off Isla Cerralvo.
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Bill,
GREAT FISH! & FROM A KAYAK! A HUGE CONGRATS!
Never stuck a Wahoo- understand the can give you a tussle..and often need dual float terminal gear.
FYI--I have not used a Samson gun since the early/mid 1960s- went to homemade Addict, then began using JD Preece (aussie) Riffe ( a SS versin of
Preece) and for last 20 + years Alexander mechanisms.. What do you use?
Good luck and keep onposting pictures of great fish !!!!
SDM
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Saw 2 locals in spear fishing off Punta Pescadero a few weeks ago. All looked according to Hoyle. First time I had seen camo neoprene suits!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Spearo
Bring at least a full 3mm wetsuit. The water temps in SOC in March are usually 65-75 depending on where you are. I wear a full 3mm suit, a 3mm
shorty over that, socks, hood and gloves plus a 12 lb belt. |
Can't figure out where ''SOC'' is. It's not SoCal and it's not BCS. Water did cool down at Pedrito and it's noticeable. Maybe 65? I surf in
a 2/1 shorty this a.m. -- West breeze from a fog bank and scattered clouds made it feel cooler though air was probably 65. Guessing here.
So, a full 3mm PLUS 3mm shorty over that doesn't sound like BCS. Is that deep water?
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Sea of Cortez. Tio
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tiotomasbcs
Sea of Cortez. Tio |
Originally posted by Spearo
Bring at least a full 3mm wetsuit. The water temps in SOC in March are usually 65-75 depending on where you are. I wear a full 3mm suit, a 3mm shorty
over that, socks, hood and gloves plus a 12 lb belt.
OK -- Sea of Cortez. 65-75 is pretty nice to be wearing 6mm suits. What's up with that? Thin blood? Staying out and down for hours? I
don't get it. Booties and gloves? Why?
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Spearo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tiotomasbcs
Sea of Cortez. Tio |
Originally posted by Spearo
Bring at least a full 3mm wetsuit. The water temps in SOC in March are usually 65-75 depending on where you are. I wear a full 3mm suit, a 3mm shorty
over that, socks, hood and gloves plus a 12 lb belt.
OK -- Sea of Cortez. 65-75 is pretty nice to be wearing 6mm suits. What's up with that? Thin blood? Staying out and down for hours? I
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We spend a couple hours in the water when we go out. I lose the shorty when the water gets up over 70 but the 3mm stays on all the time. We also hunt
rocks and caves alot, the suit gives you protection. Gloves are a must for handling the fish, all of them are armor plated, full of teeth and covered
with spines. If you are reaching into a cave trying to fish out the big pargo you just speared you are going to want some gloves on.
BTW, 5mm and 7mm suits are common among the local hookah divers. They belt up with 20 lbs and basically walk around on the seafloor.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mulegemichael
shari and all....i'm pretty sure the "rubber band" spears are called hawaiian slings...they sell them in the tackle stores in loreto and los barilles
so makes me think they are cool...i have seen guys using them around the east cape... |
slings are allowed. spearguns (propelled by rubber slings) are allowed.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Spearo
BTW, 5mm and 7mm suits are common among the local hookah divers. They belt up with 20 lbs and basically walk around on the seafloor.
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Got it. Sure reads like NorCal diving. That's a lot of protection.
I can see this is more than diving down and shooting fish. A site I saw spoke about breath control, how to relax slowing the heart, etc. This
is really a science.
So, just curious, assuming a dive bag to bag fish, how do you handle a 20lb fish -- wrestle it back to shore or a dingy?
How deep do you dive?
Anyone?
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There are really two types of spearfisherman - guys who hang in shallow water and gun for bass/corvina/halibut, etc...and those hardcore dudes who
practice "breath control" and spear yellowtail and do all that bananas stuff.
If you're just doing this on the casual, you need to dive about 10-15 feet. Otherwise, it's a whole different ballgame of gear, prep work, mindset,
etc.
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Spearo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bigzaggin
There are really two types of spearfisherman - guys who hang in shallow water and gun for bass/corvina/halibut, etc...and those hardcore dudes who
practice "breath control" and spear yellowtail and do all that bananas stuff.
If you're just doing this on the casual, you need to dive about 10-15 feet. Otherwise, it's a whole different ballgame of gear, prep work, mindset,
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You hit the nail on the head. The deeper water stuff is much more complicated and dangerous. I stick mostly to water less than 20 ft but have done
some bluewater stuff.
Shooting a 20 lb fish and fighting it out from its hole is like a knife fight in a phone booth. Once you get control f the fish, you pith it behind
the eye with a knife to kill it. Then you can put it on a stringer on your belt. Its important to kill the fish before stringing it. I once put a
monster triggerfish on my belt and started swimming back to the boat. The trigger clamped down on my love handle through the wetsuit and lets just
say a scene ensued. I have a nice little scar with a great story attached.
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The trigger clamped down on my love handle through the wetsuit and lets just say a scene ensued.
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that's some funny stuff right there!
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Its funny now. When it happened...not so much.
I love triggers but I treat them with special respect. I have the jaws of that particular trigger on my bookshelf as a reminder.
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Spearo - you've got to be nuts to put a bleeding fish on your belt stringer anytime - I question the pithing thing too - holding a thrashing
yelowtail, trying to extract your dive knive from where-ever, then attempting to stick it in the eye seems a little over dramatic and potentially
dangerous to you - one can easily guide a speared 50 pound fish to the surface - and please - boat it asap - with the occasional shark and schools of
humbolt squid around, you'll lose more that a piece of your love handle... Just some advise from 40 years of spearfising.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by marv sherrill
Spearo - you've got to be nuts to put a bleeding fish on your belt stringer anytime - I question the pithing thing too - holding a thrashing
yelowtail, trying to extract your dive knive from where-ever, then attempting to stick it in the eye seems a little over dramatic and potentially
dangerous to you - one can easily guide a speared 50 pound fish to the surface - and please - boat it asap - with the occasional shark and schools of
humbolt squid around, you'll lose more that a piece of your love handle... Just some advise from 40 years of spearfising. |
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Marv,
I CONCUR with you 100%.
I suspect our knowledge and experience is falling on deft inexperienced ears..
sdm
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
you are only allowed single point tips. no three prongs.
getting ready for halibut season.... |
Woody - Where do you see this in the "Sportfishing Regulations?" It says, "Underwater fishing is limited to five fish per day, using rubber band
or spring type harpoons, and only while skindiving."
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never read the regs. i just listen to the guys who were there before me. local knowledge trumps.....
alot of slings have 3 tips. maybe that is what Shari is refering to where alot of fish are injured by one of the 3 tips and gets away only to die
later.
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