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LaPazGringo
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Dillema re: vehicle registration
We are moving this month to La Paz and have a 1-yr lease on a home. We have apparently lost the title to our main family vehicle. Normally we'd just
pay $18 to Calif. DMV and get a copy. Well, that's what we tried and just heard from them today that they're keeping the $18 we mailed in and applying
it toward the almost $500 they want for us to renew the registration for another year. We had planned on get South Dakota registration, which of
course requires a title (and BTW, do not require current registration despite what some have posted in the past).
So what do we do? Pay the $500, get the title and worry about it in a year? Or is there any way around that?
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Is PNO a potential solution?:
http://dmv.ca.gov/online/vrir/faqpno.htm
http://dmv.ca.gov/pubs/brochures/fast_facts/ffvr01.htm
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DENNIS
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What year is the car? That's a lot of money California is asking for registration renewell.
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LaPazGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
What year is the car? That's a lot of money California is asking for registration renewell. |
It's an '05, Dennis. That also includes massive late fees for being past 30 days expired. 
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LaPazGringo
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You know, I didn't even think about that! File for PNO to get the title, then send it to SD.  Hmmmm. Going to look into that. Surely Calif. wouldn't let me shirk their fees that easily! Man, if I just
could find that title!!!
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I'd be REAL surprised if CA lets you forego the fees by filing PNO, at this point in the game. But let us know how it goes.
Here is a quote from the PNO info sheet:
"The PNO filing fee may be paid up to 60 days prior to the expiration date without late fees. If you file up to 90 days after the expiration date, you
will be liable for late fees on the full registration amount."
[Edited on 2-28-2012 by Hook]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LaPazGringo
It's an '05, Dennis. That also includes massive late fees for being past 30 days expired. |
WOW....that's about double that I pay for a 2009 Jeep Sahara.
Screw California. Register elsewhere.
You could import that vehicle into Mexico for the price you mention CA wants for the year. I'm not suggesting that, but I'm just sayin'. [starting
to hate that term as well]
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They're not going to let you out of the "massive late fees" you've racked up. From one of BN's links:
If you file up to 90 days after the expiration date, you will be liable for late fees on the full registration amount.
Wonder what happens after 90 days. 
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LaPazGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by LaPazGringo
It's an '05, Dennis. That also includes massive late fees for being past 30 days expired. |
WOW....that's about double that I pay for a 2009 Jeep Sahara.
Screw California. Register elsewhere.
You could import that vehicle into Mexico for the price you mention CA wants for the year. I'm not suggesting that, but I'm just sayin'. [starting
to hate that term as well] |
I'm all for "screw California." The problem here is that a title is required by South Dakota, Mexico, anyone who will issue a new registration. I
don't have the title and Calif. knows they "have me." It burns me up they kept that $18 I sent for a duplicate title too. I'm guessing that is illegal
and hope to hear from a lawyer interested in putting together a class action against them.
I'm going to hope we can somehow find that title before the final move and if not, I guess I have to pay them. What can I do? I am so sick and tired
of the taxation in Calif.
[Edited on 2-29-2012 by LaPazGringo]
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ca. dmv
Hola, I feel your pain....Ca. DMV=hwy robbery
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Talk by phone to SD and see if they will register it without issuing a title. I know they don't care about how late the registration might be. My
experience is with the Clay County treasurers office.
Treasurer: 211 W. Main St., Ste. 201, Vermillion, SD 57069 (605) 677-7123
[Edited on 2-29-2012 by bajalou]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalou
Talk by phone to SD and see if they will register it without issuing a title. I know they don't care about how late the registration might be. My
experience is with the Clay County treasurers office.
Treasurer: 211 W. Main St., Ste. 201, Vermillion, SD 57069 (605) 677-7123
[Edited on 2-29-2012 by bajalou] |
Yeah, I already called Dianne and the title is a requirement. 
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As it should be. Just any ol car without a title shouldnt be made "legal" THAT easily. There has to be some accountability.
South Dakota is starting to take a bit of heat from other states, about their registration rules.
I think CA has you. Just clear it up this year and file with SD next year.
On time, mind you...................
The idea of trying to start a class action over this is a bad idea, IMO.
[Edited on 2-29-2012 by Hook]
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LaPazGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
As it should be. Just any ol car without a title shouldnt be made "legal" THAT easily. There has to be some accountability.
South Dakota is starting to take a bit of heat from other states, about their registration rules.
I think CA has you. Just clear it up this year and file with SD next year.
On time, mind you...................
The idea of trying to start a class action over this is a bad idea, IMO.
[Edited on 2-29-2012 by Hook] |
Yeah, I'm afraid it's either find the title or pay the fine. I totally understand the necessity of the title, I just don't want to pay Calif. another
$500. I took much pleasure in thumbing my nose at the Calif. DMV as the
regsitration expired and all the notices and threats came in the mail. Then I realized I lost the title and the laugh was on me.
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You'll find it.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LaPazGringo
Yeah, I'm afraid it's either find the title or pay the fine. I totally understand the necessity of the title, I just don't want to pay Calif. another
$500. I took much pleasure in thumbing my nose at the Calif. DMV as the
regsitration expired and all the notices and threats came in the mail. Then I realized I lost the title and the laugh was on me.
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on behalf of all californians, i thank you for your contribution!
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Question.....?
I see so many US plated cars in Baja with expired tabs....
Is it a big risk to just drive it in Baja / Baja Sur with your current plate & expired tabs??
Can you get a "dr." or mechanic to write you an excuse.. . . . ?
(comatose, alzheimers, and incontinent, or car in for XXX service to determine
roadworthiness before relicensing. . . please excuse late renewal.... ). Oh, nevermind that... I'm certain that EVERYthing that could be tried HAS
been tried. . . BUT It is just a matter of finding out what might have actually worked in your situation for others.... Maybe Google it? Actually,
"GOOGLE the CA DMV" . . . . Crooks!!!!
Good luck. Let us know what happens!
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If you change the address to the new address in baja prior to re-reg it should lower the cost, you can state the car is out of state and that will
reduce hiway taxes, this is a bit much for a novice to deal with but it does work. Baja is not considered mexico and you are allowed to register a CA
in baja if you need the exact law you can ask or look it up. By changing from your crazy city to another the reg will go down. It's very high in about
10 counties, much lower outside of those counties.
Also the late fee doesn't sound right as I understood there is a slight forgiveness at the moment in CA for late 30-60 days.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by djh
I see so many US plated cars in Baja with expired tabs....
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Driven by Nationals, the cars are called "Chocolates."
http://www.just-auto.com/news/stop-those-chocolate-cars_id74...
http://www.ine.gob.mx/descargas/calaire/2007_inf_unal_vehicu...
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FM-3 visa holders are allowed to be late up to 5 year under articulo 106 (depending on interpreatation) also outdated tags may have onapafa or other
local temp reg, and of course there are many non-plated or out of date cars, cops only mess with them if they look like they have enough to pay a
fine. There are many valid excuses, apparently, like you.
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