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Allowed to be late UP TO FIVE YEARS???????
Sounds just like Mexico. 
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Good to see you posting again, gnu......missed your input.
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LaPazGringo
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| Quote: | | Originally posted by gnukidAlso the late fee doesn't sound right as I understood there is a slight forgiveness at the moment in CA for late
30-60 days. |
Forgiveness and California don't go together. Just have to laugh at that.
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import the vehicle. insurance covers you in the states and is way cheaper. the fees are ridiculously low here. and it is not hard or that expensive
... we know a broker in TJ if you are interested ....
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LaPazGringo
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I guess it's time I made what I thought was crystal clear even more clear.
I DO NOT HAVE THE TITLE. 
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBlanca
import the vehicle. insurance covers you in the states and is way cheaper. the fees are ridiculously low here. and it is not hard or that expensive
... we know a broker in TJ if you are interested .... |
Doesnt the vehicle have to be of a certain year to be imported? And isnt it about 1000.00 US, when it's all said and done?
Can persons with a tourist visa or an FM-3 do this?
I think the SD registration on my truck is only about 80.00 US a year. It's now 12 years old.
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gnukid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LaPazGringo
| Quote: | | Originally posted by gnukidAlso the late fee doesn't sound right as I understood there is a slight forgiveness at the moment in CA for late
30-60 days. |
Forgiveness and California don't go together. Just have to laugh at that. |
it might be only if you mail it in... I'll look it up. I highly recommend changing the address to your new baja address first, you can do it online
and then register, the fee will drop. That would be the correct, legal and lowest cost thing to do.
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LaPazGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
| Quote: | Originally posted by LaPazGringo
| Quote: | | Originally posted by gnukidAlso the late fee doesn't sound right as I understood there is a slight forgiveness at the moment in CA for late
30-60 days. |
Forgiveness and California don't go together. Just have to laugh at that. |
it might be only if you mail it in... I'll look it up. I highly recommend changing the address to your new baja address first, you can do it online
and then register, the fee will drop. That would be the correct, legal and lowest cost thing to do. |
I'm confused. So Calif. would charge me less if I simply change my address? I don't get it... 
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LaPazGringo
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gnukid, you are right! Just talked to my wife back home (I'm in La Paz, she's in SoCal) and we got a new notice yesterday and there are zero late fees
if we mail the payment in! They also want it smogged, so we decided to look for the title for another day or so, then just go ahead and pay the DMV
and do the smog to get current and get the title. But if we can just find the title, we can be done with Calif. and get the SD plates.
We're also going to drive up to SD this summer when it's hot in Baja and get our driver's licenses and then cut across Montana, Wyoming, etc. But I
guess those questions are for another thread.
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Hook
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When in Wyoming, dont miss the Wind River Range.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LaPazGringo
.........We're also going to drive up to SD this summer when it's hot in Baja and get our driver's licenses......... |
If you also get a mail address in SD, you can avoid all of those pesky California state income taxes....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LaPazGringo
gnukid, you are right! Just talked to my wife back home (I'm in La Paz, she's in SoCal) and we got a new notice yesterday and there are zero late fees
if we mail the payment in! They also want it smogged, so we decided to look for the title for another day or so, then just go ahead and pay the DMV
and do the smog to get current and get the title. But if we can just find the title, we can be done with Calif. and get the SD plates.
We're also going to drive up to SD this summer when it's hot in Baja and get our driver's licenses and then cut across Montana, Wyoming, etc. But I
guess those questions are for another thread. |
If you go online right now and change the address to the new address in la paz with the correct zip code and just put BC for the state (since on two
letters are allowed) then the smog requirement will disappear. Again, only about ten counties in CA require smog, the rest do not. If you need a
reference to the exact law to print out you can search baja nomad for smog exempt or something.
Follow the instructions noted: it's the correct and legal thing to do since your address is in La Paz now and it addresses your questions, after this
you can request a title in the office or to be sent to the address of your choice, and move on to enjoying holidays.
You can change the address as often as you move! It's instantaneous in the system.
Later you can buy me a drink in La Paz!
[Edited on 2-29-2012 by gnukid]
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LaPazGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
| Quote: | Originally posted by LaPazGringo
gnukid, you are right! Just talked to my wife back home (I'm in La Paz, she's in SoCal) and we got a new notice yesterday and there are zero late fees
if we mail the payment in! They also want it smogged, so we decided to look for the title for another day or so, then just go ahead and pay the DMV
and do the smog to get current and get the title. But if we can just find the title, we can be done with Calif. and get the SD plates.
We're also going to drive up to SD this summer when it's hot in Baja and get our driver's licenses and then cut across Montana, Wyoming, etc. But I
guess those questions are for another thread. |
If you go online right now and change the address to the new address in la paz with the correct zip code and just put BC for the state (since on two
letters are allowed) then the smog requirement will disappear. Again, only about ten counties in CA require smog, the rest do not. If you need a
reference to the exact law to print out you can search baja nomad for smog exempt or something.
Follow the instructions noted: it's the correct and legal thing to do since your address is in La Paz now and it addresses your questions, after this
you can request a title in the office or to be sent to the address of your choice, and move on to enjoying holidays.
You can change the address as often as you move! It's instantaneous in the system.
Later you can buy me a drink in La Paz!
[Edited on 2-29-2012 by gnukid] |
My only question is if I change my address, where do they mail the title? Muchas gracias por la informacion! 
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... you can request a title in the office or to be sent to the address of your choice... The important thing is to enter the postal code correctly and
the street address for the vehicle's address which can be separate from the mailing address per transaction.
In the system there is a registered address for the vehicle. Per transaction you can request the title/reg/sticker be sent to any address you enter in
the mailing field.
There are millions of people who have CA registered cars outside of CA. This is your right and it's normal, legal and it's the correct and right thing
to do. Obviously if yuor car is in france or germany or La Paz you can't return for a smog check nor should you pay california taxes.
OK to be sure you got it correct, once more, the steps are:
1) Go online change the address to your legal address in la paz and note the postal code, enter BC for state. Be prepared to state the car is in La
Paz and will not return to CA, if it does return you notify the DMV. The car is exempt from smog.
2) Be sure you have current US insurance. It can liability only, but it is required generally.
3) Mail the registration payment in, confirm the la paz address and note the mailing address (in the usa or la paz you want for the reg/sticker.
4) Later, go online, mail or go to the office and request for title to be sent the address of your choice.
5) If you want to, go to the DMV and request a copy of title/reg/sticker after it's been processed in a few weeks if you do not receive it. I have
received DMV mail in La Paz.
It's possible there wil be a bump in the road due to uninformed dmv workers, but they will get it right in the end, that's okay. Do this now.
[Edited on 2-29-2012 by gnukid]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
... you can request a title in the office or to be sent to the address of your choice... The important thing is to enter the postal code correctly and
the street address for the vehicle's address which can be separate from the mailing address per transaction.
In the system there is a registered address for the vehicle. Per transaction you can request the title/reg/sticker be sent to any address you enter in
the mailing field.
There are millions of people who have CA registered cars outside of CA. This is your right and it's normal, legal and it's the correct and right thing
to do. Obviously if yuor car is in france or germany or La Paz you can't return for a smog check nor should you pay california taxes.
OK to be sure you got it correct, once more, the steps are:
1) Go online change the address to your legal address in la paz and note the postal code, enter BC for state. Be prepared to state the car is in La
Paz and will not return to CA, if it does return you notify the DMV. The car is exempt from smog.
2) Be sure you have current US insurance. It can liability only, but it is required generally.
3) Mail the registration payment in, confirm the la paz address and note the mailing address (in the usa or la paz you want for the reg/sticker.
4) Later, go online, mail or go to the office and request for title to be sent the address of your choice.
5) If you want to, go to the DMV and request a copy of title/reg/sticker after it's been processed in a few weeks if you do not receive it. I have
received DMV mail in La Paz.
It's possible there wil be a bump in the road due to uninformed dmv workers, but they will get it right in the end, that's okay. Do this now.
[Edited on 2-29-2012 by gnukid] |
You have a new friend in La Paz, mi amigo! 
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I am on the DMV site and you have to select your state from a drop-down list and only US states/posessions are included. There is no way to enter
anything else. Am I missing something?
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LaPazGringo
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Okay, just read this:
You cannot use this system if you:
•Do not have a California Driver License and/or California Identification Card
•Do not have a Social Security Number
•Have a Commercial Driver License (CDL) issued by California and your residence address is in another state
•Have an Army Post Office or Fleet Post Office address
•Have an address outside of the United States
If any of the above applies to you, please complete a Change of Address (DMV14) form and mail it to the address listed on the form. A change of
address does not require an in-person visit to a DMV office.
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Okay, spent 2-1/2 hrs waiting at the DMV and finally had my turn. The lady said with my circumstances that we should do PNO. It was $91. Yeah, $91
just for the honor of telling Calif. that I won't be using their roads. So what did I get for that $91?! I guess that's beside the point. The point is
that now I don't have to get the smog test and can request the title again. I realized after I left that we forgot to do that there! Grrrr...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LaPazGringo
Okay, spent 2-1/2 hrs waiting at the DMV and finally had my turn. The lady said with my circumstances that we should do PNO. It was $91. Yeah, $91
just for the honor of telling Calif. that I won't be using their roads. So what did I get for that $91?! I guess that's beside the point. The point is
that now I don't have to get the smog test and can request the title again. I realized after I left that we forgot to do that there! Grrrr...
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You could have done the address change at the DMV and completed the registration and title request at the same time. I promise the system can accept
any address you just have to enter it or do it in person, there re millions of CA cars outside of California. Now you paid $91 just to be able to
request a copy of the title ~$16 which gets you no where except having to register the car again which is where you started. That was money you could
have put toward the Reg and you didn't need a PNO to be able to register it another state you have the right to register your car in SD without a PNO,
the issue was the title which is your right to have.
DMV is very frustrating. I am sorry that happened.
And generally you can not file PNO if the registration is overdue? Unless less than 90 days or is the overdue fee still due and is a lien on the car
now?
You should not listen to the DMV people since they really do not know the laws that apply to people living outside of CA.
[Edited on 3-2-2012 by gnukid]
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I should have mentioned, you are not exempt from smog if in Nevada or Mexico. That's right on the form and non-negotiable. I asked the lady to call
the Supervisor over and he concurred that the only way to get the title without doing a smog was PNO. $91 got me current and now for another $18 I can
get the title. So, for future reference to anyone reading this and in the same dillema, you'll need to say it's in Canada I guess.
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