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[*] posted on 2-29-2012 at 07:52 AM


I'm going up next month and will look into BofA's relationship with Bancomer. If I can get some simple facts I'll post them. But simple is not a word that I can relate with banking.



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[*] posted on 2-29-2012 at 08:13 AM


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I opened a Citibank account because of the link with Banamex.
No transfer or ATM fees, you can easily do the transactions online if needed.

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Sounds just like BofA/Santander. So you just get straight cash withdrawal at Banamex ATM with no cost whatsoever?
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[*] posted on 2-29-2012 at 08:18 AM


We've been living for almost 7 years on US credit cards and cash out of the Banamex ATM via our Citibank account. No charges. Pay our bills on line.

Every once in a blue moon we have had a need for a Mexican bank account, but have always been able to work around that.




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[*] posted on 2-29-2012 at 08:29 AM


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I believe CitiBank bought Bancomer....or is it Banamex... one of the two.
Anyway, Citibank has told me they will transfer money into, if you open an account with them, a account there without a fee.
I've been wrong before, though.


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Lois and I have a citibank account, we also looked into getting pesos from them which they assured us was easy and we would get that days exchange rate. So just out of curiosity I asked what their exchange rate was for that day and they quoted me 13.07p to the dollar, I went home and checked on line and it was 13.95 (this was in late December) Then I check the exchange place at costco chula vista and their rate was 13.30 p to the dollar, so citi's rate was not all that good and it seems their fees were built into the poor rate they give. Anyway check them out before you deal with them
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[*] posted on 2-29-2012 at 08:41 AM


I'm interested in this thread so I did some keyboard work:

Santander Banks in Baja:

BC: http://santander.mapasactivos.com/state_search.asp?suc=1&...

BCS: http://santander.mapasactivos.com/state_search.asp?suc=1&...

You can also use the yellow pages to find banks. For example:

http://www.seccionamarilla.com.mx/Resultados/banco-santander...
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[*] posted on 2-29-2012 at 08:47 AM


This is the type of answer I was looking for:bounce::biggrin:


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Bank of America and Banco Santander.

There are no fees when using a BofA ATM card at a Santander bank.

[Edited on 2-29-2012 by SFandH]


[Edited on 2-29-2012 by Udo]




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[*] posted on 2-29-2012 at 08:51 AM


Thanks Terry...I have a USAA account and loan, and will look for additional options.
I'll have Jana check with her employer's credit union.

Great info...as always.


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Find out which Mexican banks are located in your Baja location, then go to a couple of your local (CA) credit unions. Also have your better half check with her employer if they have a preferred credit union or bank NOB.

Check to see if the US banks or credit unions have an electronic funds transfer between themselves and a Mexican bank, or what their ATM fees/limits are when dealing with the Mexican banks.

I prefer to keep my money in my US credit union and just use ATM's when in Baja.

Bajablonde and I both use the same credit union, but have seperate accounts........that way if one account or ATM card screws up, we have the other. And we can transfer funds between each account by our on-line banking.

Also, if you have ever been in the military, check out the full range of services offered by USAA. I have been with them for 34 years.......great service and great products:

https://www.usaa.com/inet/pages/our-products-main?wa_ref=pub...



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[*] posted on 2-29-2012 at 09:05 AM


I thought Gnukid had finally flipped with his "HSBC = Queen of England house of Windsor", but I must apologize. I am not really into Masonic conspiracies, but it certainly will provide your daily dose of sinister reading.

As a Canadian - I have sworn allegiance to the House of Windsor . . . yikes!

A very shallow Google revealed

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[*] posted on 2-29-2012 at 09:15 AM


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[*] posted on 2-29-2012 at 10:38 AM


For about 6 years we have used our Citibank ATM card at Banamex. Banamex is owned by Citibank and we have not been charged any fees for cash withdrawals from our citibank account. We now have been living in La paz for 15 months and have no Mex bank account, and only use our Citibank card.

We find the exhange rates to be comparable to the going rate and without any fees for the transactions we come our ahead.

when I knew we would be living in Mex for most of the year I researched the various options and have all my funds deposited in Citi by direct deposit, I can check Banamex on line for the daily rate before I withdraw funds and it's been painless and and effecient way to manage my money without having to disclose Mexican bank info to the IRS as we have no funds on deposit in Mexico.

when we built our house we used Citibank for fund transfer to our contractor and once it was set up the process was also painless and the funds usually arrived in two business days to my contractor's account.

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[*] posted on 2-29-2012 at 11:05 AM


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For about 6 years we have used our Citibank ATM card at Banamex. Banamex is owned by Citibank and we have not been charged any fees for cash withdrawals from our citibank account. We now have been living in La paz for 15 months and have no Mex bank account, and only use our Citibank card.

We find the exhange rates to be comparable to the going rate and without any fees for the transactions we come our ahead.

when I knew we would be living in Mex for most of the year I researched the various options and have all my funds deposited in Citi by direct deposit, I can check Banamex on line for the daily rate before I withdraw funds and it's been painless and and effecient way to manage my money without having to disclose Mexican bank info to the IRS as we have no funds on deposit in Mexico.

when we built our house we used Citibank for fund transfer to our contractor and once it was set up the process was also painless and the funds usually arrived in two business days to my contractor's account.

Norm


Thank you Norm for that verification.

I'm planing to move into your neighborhood soon, might be better not to have a separate Banamex account.

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[*] posted on 2-29-2012 at 12:16 PM


Norm, I take it your contractor had a US account? Or did you just bite the bullet and pay for a wire transfer into his Mexican account?



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[*] posted on 2-29-2012 at 03:18 PM
Other options..


This is the answer I got from my friend who has a Banamex USA account: I’m in a special plan for Americans who have retired in Mexico so my account may be different than others. That said, I have a checking account, pay no fees, no minimum balance and no ATM fees at their branches in the U.S. or Banamex ATMs here. If you use another ATM, Bancomer for example, you would pay Bancomer’s fees but no fees on your Banamex card. They have a toll free # in Mexico 01-800-111-1234 so you don’t have to call into the states. Their staff is bilingual. I’ve had this account since 1994 and never a single problem with them. You might want to call and find out more. If you do, as soon as they answer, say ‘representative’ and they’ll connect you with a live person!
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For about 6 years we have used our Citibank ATM card at Banamex. Banamex is owned by Citibank and we have not been charged any fees for cash withdrawals from our citibank account. We now have been living in La paz for 15 months and have no Mex bank account, and only use our Citibank card.

We find the exhange rates to be comparable to the going rate and without any fees for the transactions we come our ahead.

when I knew we would be living in Mex for most of the year I researched the various options and have all my funds deposited in Citi by direct deposit, I can check Banamex on line for the daily rate before I withdraw funds and it's been painless and and effecient way to manage my money without having to disclose Mexican bank info to the IRS as we have no funds on deposit in Mexico.

when we built our house we used Citibank for fund transfer to our contractor and once it was set up the process was also painless and the funds usually arrived in two business days to my contractor's account.

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[*] posted on 2-29-2012 at 06:53 PM


There is a Banamex branch in Nogales, Arizona. Someone from San Carlos went in there and asked if they opened an account there, could they then access pesos from their account at Banamex branches in Mexico. Outside of using an ATM, the answer was NO.

In fact, they dont even exchange dollars for pesos or vice versa at that Banamex USA branch that is maybe 1.5 miles from the border.




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[*] posted on 2-29-2012 at 07:23 PM


i have citibank...they suck

i tried banamex because they were "afiliated" to citibank
lots of fees

bancomer is in mulege...no "real" ties
they are spanish...or something else

i went to bancomer at the border
they have the same name BUT are a different company
lots of fees

did you guys know there are taxesif you deposit too much in a mexican bank

my advice if building...bring a BIG suitcase...and exchange dollars for pesos at the border...its the mexican way

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[*] posted on 2-29-2012 at 07:58 PM


Banks of foreign countries are not 'affiliated' in an integral way. They can't because different countries have separate sovereignty over their own financial sector, institutions, and banks and accordingly must be maintained separately. They can be 'associated' by allowing small conveniences like ATM withdrawals with or without fees (which is nothing more than a transfer of funds). But, the banking systems must be maintained separately, separate economic entity and separate accounting and subject to separate regulation bytheir respective governments.

An American parent company can own a foreign affiliate, but that foreign affiliate operates in that foreign jurisdiction and location in that foreign country's separate banking system. Things are better that way and more controllable and more accountable.
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[*] posted on 2-29-2012 at 09:44 PM
What's the problem??


How else do you want to take money out of a bank in Mexico? Write checks? What's wrong with an ATM that doesn't charge?
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There is a Banamex branch in Nogales, Arizona. Someone from San Carlos went in there and asked if they opened an account there, could they then access pesos from their account at Banamex branches in Mexico. Outside of using an ATM, the answer was NO.

In fact, they dont even exchange dollars for pesos or vice versa at that Banamex USA branch that is maybe 1.5 miles from the border.
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[*] posted on 2-29-2012 at 10:03 PM
Bank of America..


Bank of America charges through the roof at any other ATM in Mexico...they charged me almost $10 American to take out $5000 pesos...I will have to double check with Santander...I find it hard to believe Bank of A does anything for free...
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This is the type of answer I was looking for:bounce::biggrin:


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Bank of America and Banco Santander.

There are no fees when using a BofA ATM card at a Santander bank.

[Edited on 2-29-2012 by SFandH]


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[*] posted on 2-29-2012 at 10:42 PM


I was looking for the same information to avoid ATM fees for an upcoming trip, and here is what I got off the BofA website:

Important Information
ATM fees do not apply at some ATMs located outside the United States. You will not pay a fee when you use ATMs of our Global ATM Alliance partner banks in the following countries:
Barclays (England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and the Channel Islands)
BNL D'Italia (Italy)
BNP Paribas (France)
Deutsche Bank (Germany)
Scotiabank (Canada and the Caribbean. Caribbean countries include: Anguilla, Antigua & Barbuda, Bahamas, Barbados, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Grenada, Jamaica, Netherlands Antilles (St Maarten), St Kitts-Nevis, St. Lucia, St. Vincent & The Grenadines, Trinidad & Tobago, Turks & Caicos Islands, US Virgin Islands)
Westpac (Australia and New Zealand)
Non-participating banks may charge additional fees.
In addition, Bank of America has arranged for you to use your debit or ATM cards in China at China Construction Bank ATMs (China Construction Bank ATMs in Hong Kong are not included) and in Mexico at Banco Santander with no ATM Fee.
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[*] posted on 3-1-2012 at 07:47 AM


Another good aspect of the B of A and Santander method is that the "eBanking" account type at B of A does not have any monthly fees if you stay within the restrictions. If you use a banking service that is outside the restrictions they charge the full service checking account monthly fee for the month you used the additional service.

I hesitate to promote "too big to fail" B of A, but it's a good deal.


[Edited on 3-1-2012 by SFandH]
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