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[*] posted on 3-2-2012 at 11:52 AM


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Originally posted by LaPazGringo
I should have mentioned, you are not exempt from smog if in Nevada or Mexico. That's right on the form and non-negotiable. I asked the lady to call the Supervisor over and he concurred that the only way to get the title without doing a smog was PNO. $91 got me current and now for another $18 I can get the title. So, for future reference to anyone reading this and in the same dillema, you'll need to say it's in Canada I guess.


As noted, there is an exemption for all of Baja except the border cities. I am sorry you got misdirected by a misinformed agent.

If you want I can speak to your husband in person to help.

In case anyone is in this situation again, when you call the supervisor ask them to pull the DMV book and read the smog exemption law, at the bottom it states that Baja California residents are are exempt except for Tijuana and Tecate in addition the majority of California is exempt, just not the most populated counties. People don't read the laws. Important thing is to remain calm and patient when you go to the DMV and know that you are of course entitled to have your CA car in Baja and of course it's exempt from smog since it would be a burden to return for smog.





[Edited on 3-2-2012 by gnukid]
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[*] posted on 3-2-2012 at 12:22 PM


I found the law, it's listed in the CA DMV official book under section 10.0.60

I can give an electronic copy of the law and form 256 for exemption to your husband if he's interested, PM me.

You use the white statement of facts form, check smog exempt and write vehicle is at my residence in e.g. XXX Calle La Fiesta C.P 23060
La Paz, Baja California Sur, Mexico


two sections to reference

section 10.0.60 page 10-11 and 10-12

* actual residence is in a non-biennial area

A smog certification is not required when a vehicle is located outside of California. • The registered owner must complete a Statement of Facts (REG 256) or submit a letter explaining that the vehicle is located out of state.

• The exemption for vehicles located outside of California does not apply if the residence or mailing address of the registered owner/lessee or the address where the vehicle is garaged is in any of the following cities:

Original Smog Certification within One Year
Motive Power Corrections
Vehicles Located outside California
Nevada:
Mexico:
• Carson City • Centerville • Crystal Bay • Gardnerville • Genoa
• Glenbrook • Incline Village • Minden • Reno • Sparks
• Stateline • Stewart • Washoe City • Verdi • Zephyr Cove
• Tecate • Tijuana • Tijuana Baja CA

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Why don't you go right back to that DMV and aks for the supervisor and set them straight, demand that your PNO be credited toward the registration as they misinformed you. Be calm and polite.

[Edited on 3-2-2012 by gnukid]
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[*] posted on 3-2-2012 at 12:47 PM


gnukid, I'm going to print out your post and go back in the morning and will report back with what happens. I can't thank you enough for the assistance.

And BTW, I *am* the husband. :lol:
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[*] posted on 3-2-2012 at 12:54 PM


I thought you said you were in LA PAZ right now? But now your back in the US?

PM me your email and I'll send you the actual DMV documents. Remember be very calm and patient and never get upset or you will loose this game, this step is a right of passage for Pacenos!
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[*] posted on 3-2-2012 at 01:01 PM


I was in La Paz for about 72 hrs, then flew back to get another vehicle loaded up and head South again the middle of next week.

Sending PM now.
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[*] posted on 3-3-2012 at 06:49 AM


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gnukid, I'm going to print out your post and go back in the morning and will report back with what happens. I can't thank you enough for the assistance.

And BTW, I *am* the husband. :lol:


Too bad you are not using the Auto Club - I just renewed the registration on a PU that I leave in Mulege at the Auto Club in San Clemente. Have done it for several years now with no smog check. My understanding the vehicle must be some distance from the border - have heard more than a days drive. There is a form you fill out stating the address in Mexico where vehicle is located. You pay the registration fee (cash or check only) they give you the registration and license plate tag right then and you are good-to-go. I also take my FM-3 and a Baja map just in case but have never been asked for any proof of address. As an aside the Auto Club no longer has Baja maps. Jim

[Edited on 3-3-2012 by mulegejim]
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[*] posted on 3-3-2012 at 09:40 AM


Quote:
Originally posted by gnukid
Quote:
Originally posted by LaPazGringo
I should have mentioned, you are not exempt from smog if in Nevada or Mexico. That's right on the form and non-negotiable. I asked the lady to call the Supervisor over and he concurred that the only way to get the title without doing a smog was PNO. $91 got me current and now for another $18 I can get the title. So, for future reference to anyone reading this and in the same dillema, you'll need to say it's in Canada I guess.


As noted, there is an exemption for all of Baja except the border cities. I am sorry you got misdirected by a misinformed agent.

If you want I can speak to your husband in person to help.

In case anyone is in this situation again, when you call the supervisor ask them to pull the DMV book and read the smog exemption law, at the bottom it states that Baja California residents are are exempt except for Tijuana and Tecate in addition the majority of California is exempt, just not the most populated counties. People don't read the laws. Important thing is to remain calm and patient when you go to the DMV and know that you are of course entitled to have your CA car in Baja and of course it's exempt from smog since it would be a burden to return for smog.














As you stated it's the law , but some of the paperwork says different I printed out the law and carried it with me and still had to battle with the DMV. But I Insisted and registered it with my Mexico Adress. and behold when renewal time came around the Renewal slip was delivered to my adress in Mexico. No smog required on my truck or car.





[Edited on 3-2-2012 by gnukid]
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[*] posted on 3-3-2012 at 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by LaPazGringo
I should have mentioned, you are not exempt from smog if in Nevada........... That's right on the form and non-negotiable.





For CALIFORNIA, you need a SMOG check if you have a vehicle based in the bordering Nevada cities/counties of:

Carson City & County to include Stewart

Douglas County: Centerville, Gardnerville, Genoa
Glenbrook (Tahoe), Minden, Stateline (Tahoe) & Zephyr Cove (Tahoe).

Washoe County: Crystal Bay (Tahoe), Incline Village (Tahoe), Reno , Sparks, Washoe City & Verdi.

NEVADA only has a SMOG program in certain zip codes in Clark (Las Vegas) and Washoe (Reno) counties.




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