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Gypsy Jan
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Why Isn't Rosarito a Vacation Destination?
OK, I know, drug cartels, violence, yada, yada, yada.
The city has been cleaned up, the hotels are well maintained with good security. the tourist police are on the street 24/7.
Our friends in Rosarito say they feel safe.
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HOLA, my two centovo's is that it too cold in the winter !! just keep driving sur and it gets warmer and warmer.. K&T
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MrBillM
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Vatcaon ?
Would that be for Dyslexic Catholics who can't afford traveling to Rome ?
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J.P.
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#1 reason the Black Eye it got when things were really Bad.
Decapitations of Police ,Police Chief Murdered,Crooked Police Dept and the list goes onnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
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805gregg
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The auto theft capitol of Baja and the need for Tourist Police at all.
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willardguy
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vacation destination for who? If you're a young party type (and god bless you) its too expensive plus the border crap. anyone else, theres nothing to
do here
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Marc
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Cold and damp.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
OK, I know, drug cartels, violence, yada, yada, yada.
The city has been cleaned up, the hotels are well maintained with good security. the tourist police are on the street 24/7.
Our friends in Rosarito say they feel safe. |
Talk about good bait Jan...
The economy, the price of gas, no perception of value, many boarded up storefronts and Clubs currently create an atmosphere of blight in the tourist
zone, the passport requirement, plus the gas-guzzling wait at the border to get back home for day trippers.
Rosarito doesn't really feel like Mexico any more with all the Americanizations (MacDonalds, Burger King, Subway, Domino's Pizza, Walmart, Smart &
Final, Home Depot- you get the point). It grew in a way that did not protect the image it wanted tourists to perceive it to be. It lost it's appeal
for lack of a city master plan and the will to follow it. It hasn't even developed it's downtown beachfront, which most walkable beach cities use as
their focal point.
The food draw was the Puerto Nuevo lobster and the same brothers that own the two Ortega's in Mexico have a copy in San Diego. It's a tough sell
right now because it was mostly people driving down from San Diego. The Spring Break bus torus didn't even market Rosarito much this year. The warmer
Mexican destinations you fly to are faring much better than Rosarito.
It was the perfect storm for Rosarito's tailspin to blight. The crime didn't help- but it was the other things as well. You can trust the Tourist
Police. It's the "real police" here I worry about. The Marines are all around town now and will treat a white person fine.
San Diegans do not currently value Mexico right now, certaily not as much as Rosarito Beach thinks they do or should (see Union Trib link). San
Diegans have too much else going on right now and was one of the hardest hit areas for loss of home value. Give it time.
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/mar/11/tp-san-diegans-we...
" ... San Diego’s attitude toward the Mexican border, binational culture and cross-border commerce. Asked to rank the importance of the region’s
Spanish and Mexican heritage and “binational arts culture and experiences,” only 9 percent felt that was the most important priority when it comes to
culture and community. The same low percentage liked the idea of creating a “cross-border mega-region” as part of economic development. "
jmho
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desertcpl
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I will input some thing here
Rosarito was a vacation destination years ago big time ,
go back to 20 years and more, that whole area from TJ to Ensenada ( the Gold Coast) was full of tourists, heck you could hardly get a room on the
weekends
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Islandbuilder
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Some San Diego friends just rented a house in Rosarito for a vacation. They had a great time, and will be back.
Things have changed for those of you who have visited or lived in Northern Baja for decades, and you lament those changes. But the new guys have no
idea what it used to be, and so don't miss it. They're happy with what is, and will come back and bring their friends next time.
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J.P.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Islandbuilder
Some San Diego friends just rented a house in Rosarita for a vacation. They had a great time, and will be back.
Things have changed for those of you who have visited or lived in Northern Baja for decades, and you lament those changes. But the new guys have no
idea what it used to be, and so don't miss it. They're happy with what is, and will come back and bring their friends next time.
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Your right I have to remind myself ouite often
The only way to cope with change is to become part of it.
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Ken Cooke
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There was a time when I LIVED for my weekends in Tijuana and Rosarito!
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Why Isn't Rosarito a Vacation Destination? |
it's just not very appealing to vacationers.
what makes you think it would be appealing choice for vacation?
rosarito and border region will never attract far away visitors, so has to attract southern californians. the US government (and mexico) make the
border crossing and traffic so miserable that it deters southern californians from visiting.
sentri makes border more palatable for frequent crossers, but infrequent crossers are stuck with gauntlet thru he11, so do the trip once and then vow
to never return...
[Edited on 3-21-2012 by mtgoat666]
[Edited on 3-21-2012 by mtgoat666]
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SDRonni
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My family and I love it!
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mes1952
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As a single female under age 60 who has lived in Tijuana and now in Rosarito for 5 months, I will definitely move back to TJ in the winter. The
problem for a person under age 60 who is not married/attached is there is little to do here except walk on the beach and/or drink in the bars which is
what most single Americans do here. Except on Friday/Saturday nights, the streets close up at 8:00pm; many restaurants close at 6:00pm weekdays.
There is just not much to do here and not a lot of single people American or Mexican. And the single people here are 9/10 age 65+. I don't find the
weather that appealing in the winter; there's too much wind here and it's usually cold. And prices in general from American restaurants to hotel
rooms to souvenir shops continue to be over-inflated. Most of the hotels here are unoccupied but the continue to charge $80/night for a room. You
can be assured that any establishment here that is American-owned is going to be 20%+ more expensive than a Mexican business.
[Edited on 3-21-2012 by mes1952]
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by J.P.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Islandbuilder
Some San Diego friends just rented a house in Rosarita for a vacation. They had a great time, and will be back.
Things have changed for those of you who have visited or lived in Northern Baja for decades, and you lament those changes. But the new guys have no
idea what it used to be, and so don't miss it. They're happy with what is, and will come back and bring their friends next time.
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Your right I have to remind myself ouite often
The only way to cope with change is to become part of it. |
 If
there was a "like" button for both of these comments, I would click on it.
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mes1952
As a single female under age 60 who has lived in Tijuana and now in Rosarito for 5 months, I will definitely move back to TJ in the winter. The
problem for a person under age 60 who is not married/attached is there is little to do here except walk on the beach and/or drink in the bars which is
what most single Americans do here. Except on Friday/Saturday nights, the streets close up at 8:00pm; many restaurants close at 6:00pm weekdays.
There is just not much to do here and not a lot of single people American or Mexican. And the single people here are 9/10 age 65+. I don't find the
weather that appealing in the winter; there's too much wind here and it's usually cold. And prices in general from American restaurants to hotel
rooms to souvenir shops continue to be over-inflated. Most of the hotels here are unoccupied but the continue to charge $80/night for a room. You
can be assured that any establishment here that is American-owned is going to be 20%+ more expensive than a Mexican business.
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Check out Ensenada......plenty to do socially, civic events, shopping......if you can't find anything to do here or anybody to do it with, you are not
looking.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mes1952
Most of the hotels here are unoccupied but they continue to charge $80/night for a room. |
If the economy gets any worse, that price will keep going up. It's a Mexican business plan thing.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mes1952
As a single female under age 60 who has lived in Tijuana and now in Rosarito for 5 months, I will definitely move back to TJ in the winter. The
problem for a person under age 60 who is not married/attached is there is little to do here except walk on the beach and/or drink in the bars which is
what most single Americans do here. Except on Friday/Saturday nights, the streets close up at 8:00pm; many restaurants close at 6:00pm weekdays.
There is just not much to do here and not a lot of single people American or Mexican. And the single people here are 9/10 age 65+. I don't find the
weather that appealing in the winter; there's too much wind here and it's usually cold. And prices in general from American restaurants to hotel
rooms to souvenir shops continue to be over-inflated. Most of the hotels here are unoccupied but the continue to charge $80/night for a room. You
can be assured that any establishment here that is American-owned is going to be 20%+ more expensive than a Mexican business.
[Edited on 3-21-2012 by mes1952] |
Welcome to the board.
I have a single female American neighbor about your age who is a navy retiree. She says she is just so "all alone" here now that most of her
girlfriends have moved away. She was involved in the theater group but says that is no longer her thing. She loves her house and says it is the
first time in her life she has been able to call one place "home" for this long (6 years), and she doesn't want to leave it. A single lady in Mexico
can't hang out in bars to meet friends and bars aren't her thing. There have been a lot of Americans moving back north and she feels left behind. I
didn't know what to tell her except to keep looking for ways to meet nice people. She loves to paint.
The weather is what the weather is in Baja Norte- about 65 degrees year around at the coast. Colder when it rains, warmer when a Santa Ana comes
through.
Maybe the FRAO office could find a way to help the expat community come together, but they do sponsor a lot of events already and there's only so much
you can do to get people involved.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mes1952
As a single female under age 60 who has lived in Tijuana and now in Rosarito for 5 months, I will definitely move back to TJ in the winter. The
problem for a person under age 60 who is not married/attached is there is little to do here except walk on the beach and/or drink in the bars which is
what most single Americans do here. Except on Friday/Saturday nights, the streets close up at 8:00pm; many restaurants close at 6:00pm weekdays.
There is just not much to do here and not a lot of single people American or Mexican. And the single people here are 9/10 age 65+. I don't find the
weather that appealing in the winter; there's too much wind here and it's usually cold. And prices in general from American restaurants to hotel
rooms to souvenir shops continue to be over-inflated. Most of the hotels here are unoccupied but the continue to charge $80/night for a room. You
can be assured that any establishment here that is American-owned is going to be 20%+ more expensive than a Mexican business.
[Edited on 3-21-2012 by mes1952] |
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