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[*] posted on 3-21-2012 at 10:21 AM


Vacation destination? I live 75 mi no. of San Ysidro,
back in the day, we would go to Rene's/ El Nido/ Rosarito
Hotel for the weekend.
But I would never put Rosarito/Vacation in the
same sentence, the beaches are not attractive,
I don't see what would draw people, I do
see it as a weekend spot, or even a retirement
spot due to the afforadability
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[*] posted on 3-21-2012 at 10:48 AM


I just sent my friend the link to the Ladies Lunch group, thanks Bajaguy.



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[*] posted on 3-22-2012 at 08:42 AM


There is also a disconnect between the retirees living here and those expats (such as me) who are still working and cannot afford to retire or not at the age for retirement.
Unfortunately most of these "social groups" involve spending considerable $$ to join such as these luncheons groups and there are always too many females.
And living in Ensenada for most of us still working in the U.S. is NOT an option due to the distance. I've come to the conclusion that I need to move back to Tijuana as everywhere farther south is too limited in activities for singles unless you plan to spend time in the few expat bars which is not for me.
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[*] posted on 3-22-2012 at 12:47 PM


Frontera had a news story that the spring breakers weren't coming to Rosarito. The article puts much of the blame on the U.S travel warnings, although they did cite the violence that exists in Mexico.

The tourist officials also blame the lack of marketing to the Baja area, because most of the marketing effort is now directed at places like Cancun, LosCabos, and other tourists hot spots.

It's a very long article:

http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/17032...

In my opinion it's not the end of the world spring breakers aren't coming to Mexico in large numbers like before. Spring breakers usually don't have much money, and are just to rowdy.

Palm Springs years ago put to the 'not wanted" sign to spring breakers, and the spring breakers haven't been back since.
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[*] posted on 3-22-2012 at 12:58 PM


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Palm Springs years ago put to the 'not wanted" sign to spring breakers, and the spring breakers haven't been back since.


-------and Newport Beach before that-------"Spring Breaker's" are not worth the hassle, apparently.

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[*] posted on 3-22-2012 at 12:58 PM


Most, if not all of the marketing for Spring Break Rosarito was done by the hotels and nightclubs themselves. Iggy pulled the marketing plug a few years ago and no one has taken up the slack since. Rosarito is more interested in paving all the rural roads that lead to nowhere- than marketing itslef. Perhaps that is because there is a special gov't agency for the promotion of tourism. Not sure.

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[*] posted on 3-22-2012 at 02:25 PM


We are renting a house in Las Gaviotas in July for a family vacation. Wish us luck!



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[*] posted on 3-22-2012 at 02:45 PM


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Palm Springs years ago put to the 'not wanted" sign to spring breakers, and the spring breakers haven't been back since.


-------and Newport Beach before that-------"Spring Breaker's" are not worth the hassle, apparently.

Barry

That is easier for Palm Springs and Newport Beach to say than for Rosarito. Spring Break was their bread and butter of Rosarito tourism and was the best word-of-mouth advertising to keep Rosarito Beach tourism going through the rest of the summer.

Don't shoot the messenger on this and I have no empirical evidence to back it up- But I think spring breakers spent more money per person in Rosarito than the Mexican tourists that are now the main customers. Everyone love to hate the Spring Breakers when they were, but now many clubs and bars in that area have closed since they have left. Baja is working hard to be a food and wine destination which will help the area a lot, but not the downtown Rosarito Tourist area than was designed for a very different demographic- that no longer exists, at least right now.




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[*] posted on 3-22-2012 at 04:08 PM


Fascinating posts that contain many truths.

Rosarito is suffering for myriad reasons.

As for the spring break thing, how does one reconcile the fact that even with all the bad publicity Mexico has, in some cases rightfully endured, Cancun is this year's number one spring break destination, despite the huge cost of getting there; not to mention hotel and restaurant prices.

I do believe that Rosarito's plight is a combination of many of the factors cited by previous posters.

Sure, the weather is not particularly inviting this time of year when the youngsters want to hang out on the beach.

But in my opinion, even as the crime/ drug war issues fade, the passport requirement and the border return hassle will continue to dampen enthusiasm for the area.

I think that, if and when there exists an overall feeling of safety in Mexico, especially in the border regions, Rosarito's best shot is for full or part time living, especially if rents and real estate prices are reasonable.
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[*] posted on 3-22-2012 at 04:25 PM


We had largely given up on Rosarito and the surrounding area many years ago since it seemed to be full of unsavory Americans from Riverside, San Bernardino, etc. who got drunk and obnoxious. I think the long border waits have really discouraged that group (and others) from coming down (along with the negative media reports).

We discovered a condo for rent at one of the high-rises (Club Marena) and decided to check it out; we went to El Nido for dinner one night, La Estancia the other night. Hung by the pool during the day, went down to La Fonda for drinks, Halfway House for lunch, etc.; we wondered "why haven't we done this sooner?" Granted, we have SENTRI so the return is a breeze, but I was encouraged to see that the really bad element of Americans was not in Rosarito anymore (some of those Americans worried me more than any of the locals; they'd get drunk, you'd look at them the wrong way and next think you knew you were being accosted; forget it).

Maybe with a clean slate the area can start to attract a better element of tourist; the food/wine tourist would be a great demographic. You can't beat the beautiful coastline and the proximity to San Diego. The feel of being outside the US is what attracted us to Rosarito years ago and it still does.
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[*] posted on 3-22-2012 at 04:53 PM


Great posts gallesram and Bajahowodd. Not many people beat up the Rosarito expats as being unsavory white thrash from Riverside and San Bernardino... so keep your head low for a few days. True though. :)

Did eating off all those metal plates, cups, etc. bother you at La Estancia? Drives me nuts. Same as the little plastic ones they put on your plates at El Nido - no sub for a proper ramekin in a nice restaurant. Sorry.. I digress.




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[*] posted on 3-22-2012 at 05:15 PM


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Originally posted by dtutko1
We are renting a house in Las Gaviotas in July for a family vacation. Wish us luck!


Some friends, restaurant owners from Grass Valley, CA were just there and are planning to return to Las Gaviotas to rent. They are retirement age and their grown children and grand children have been groomed to take over the restaurant. :)




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[*] posted on 3-23-2012 at 05:49 AM


The beaches suck. Bigtime. Raw sewage, hawkers, broken tequila bottles, crippled horses, dog poop, and ice cold, dark water. That's why we aren't interested and there's no way we're alone. Not to mention that when we last went for a weekend (about 5 yrs ago), there was no cheap beer, food or rooms of any quality.
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[*] posted on 3-23-2012 at 06:21 AM


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Not to mention that when we last went for a weekend (about 5 yrs ago), there was no cheap beer,


Really?? Was there supposed to be cheap beer? :?:
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[*] posted on 3-23-2012 at 07:00 AM


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Not to mention that when we last went for a weekend (about 5 yrs ago), there was no cheap beer,


Really?? Was there supposed to be cheap beer? :?:



If one can get copious amounts of dirt-cheap beer in Las Vegas, one should be able to get it in a dump like Rosarito.
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[*] posted on 3-23-2012 at 07:39 AM


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If one can get copious amounts of dirt-cheap beer in Las Vegas, one should be able to get it in a dump like Rosarito.


I don't think we're talking about the same business plan. In LV, the beer is paid for in other ways. Not so in Rob-me-arito.
Believe me....I'm not defending anything that is done in Rosarito.....right or wrong.
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[*] posted on 3-23-2012 at 07:53 AM


I understand what you're saying, Dennis. So I guess the question becomes what product does Rosarito have to offer? Absolutely zilch for me. Why would I drive my family from the clean(er) beachs of SoCal where I can get a good value on food and lodging to stay in Rosarito at Festival Plaza and eat at El Nido?
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[*] posted on 3-23-2012 at 08:02 AM


One thing I can say for Rosarito for me being a pet parent is that the beaches are great for dogs. I live in the Quinta del Mar which is a great place to live if you have pets and you can walk your dogs on a private street to the beach entrance. Also the security there is great and I feel safe walking my dogs after 10:00pm in the evening.
The downside, as mentioned previously, is that there just is not much to do here in terms of affordable activities that doesn't cost an arm or leg and if these are available they are not promoted. It seems all the promotions you find on the web are the high end high cost ones. I think perhaps for me being a full time resident who still works in the U.S. is to live in Tijuana in the winter after the summer boredom has worn off living in Rosarito.
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[*] posted on 3-23-2012 at 08:14 AM


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So I guess the question becomes what product does Rosarito have to offer?


The best part of Rosarito for me is the Toll Road that goes through it. I'm not speaking for others and I know folks who have a happy life there, but for me, it's not what I want.
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[*] posted on 3-23-2012 at 09:04 AM


Woooosh, funny that you mentioned those things about El Nido and La Estancia; didn't bother me, actually. We found the food to be very good at both spots (as well as Halfway House) and actually felt safer than during past visits when people were very drunk & rowdy.

FYI, just so there's no misunderstanding, I wasn't referring to expats who are living in Rosarito; the element that I was referencing was clearly a weekend crowd who seemed to be looking for trouble. I remember taking my 14-year old nephew down there for his first visit to Mexico and being confronted by some drunken Americans who were clearly visiting for the weekend and trying to pick a fight. That was almost 10 years ago and I swore I'd never return; who wants to deal with that on vacation? I deal with enough jerks during the work week! That was until last December when we discovered the condo at Club Marena and have been back twice since.

Strangely, I found the crowd in Rosarito to be worse than in Tijuana; I assumed that it was because the TJ people were just there for the evening, but the Rosarito people were there for the weekend. Maybe staying in a hotel made them feel that they were more at "home" and could be more obnoxious; who knows. I'm just pointing out that this unsavory weekend crowd (again, not referring to the residents) seems to have disappeared and that gives Rosarito a chance to reinvent itself when the economy picks up and people start coming back.
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