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EnsenadaDr
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Wrong place to stay and eat...
Someone has steered you way wrong. I lived in Rosarito Beach for about 4 years. El Nido was the biggest rip off joint in the town. My ex husband
and I had many enjoyable days with our daughter on the beach (Yes, there are some nice areas of Rosarito) and there are plenty of places you can get a
cheap beer. Hotel Festival is also a dump...I wouldn't give my dog a room there. Eat at Vince's, the best seafood in town, and stay in Calafia or in
the Rosarito Beach Hotel. There are a few areas where the beach has sewage, but there are many stretches of beautiful, uncrowded clean beach.
SoCal's beaches are swamped. My son surfs La Jolla CA beach regularly and darn if he doesn't get a sore throat or get a respiratory infection from
the pollution in those waters. We lived there in 2006, when Playboy Magazine rated Rosarito the Spring Break Capital of the World...you couldn't even
walk the streets then. Lupita's gives the best pedicures I have ever had, and actually takes a razor to those calluses with expertise. I still go
back and visit my friend Marilyn on the beach, and her stretch is uncrowded and quiet, with a gorgeous sunset every night. | Quote: | Originally posted by LaPazGringo
I understand what you're saying, Dennis. So I guess the question becomes what product does Rosarito have to offer? Absolutely zilch for me. Why would
I drive my family from the clean(er) beachs of SoCal where I can get a good value on food and lodging to stay in Rosarito at Festival Plaza and eat at
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You are right that you can have a great vacation in Rosarito if you stay at Club Marena or similar accommodations. There are islands of civility and
exclusivity in Rosarito, but they do come with a price comparable to SoCal hotels. You can have a great vacation in Jamaica too if you don't leave
your Hotel compound. Rosarito is unable to support more upscale hideaways- there are 17 unfinished ones due to lack of demand and their out-of-whack
price tags.
My suggestions for Rosarito is to embrace it as the birthplace of the $1 Fish Taco, not $20 deep fried frozen lobster. Let the Guadalupe wine region
cater to the higher end foodies and wine gurus where they are already doing a great a job. In this tough economy the downtown tourist area of
Rosarito needs it's tourism to be rebuilt from the bottom price rungs up- not from the top down. Make it cheap, make it a value and go for volume,
not fleece the few with deeper pockets. Mexican tourists stay at the many decent 250 peso per night motels downtown, not the $250 a night Rosarito
Beach Hotel.
btw- Cheap food and drink for all in Vegas went away when "player club" programs were developed in the 90's to reward loyal players based on their
tracked play, not just for walking in their door. Drinks are free when you play- but the days of the $1 Prime Rib Buffet loss-leaders are long gone.
(I agree Vincent's is very good. I like the food at La Estancia too, just not eating off metal plates. I buy my fish and clams from a neighbor who
catches them right out front of my house. I'd rather eat a Rosarito fresh fish or clam than a piece of Talapia from the Chula Vista Costco that was
farm raised with hormones in the polluted aquaculture ponds of Vietnam. I make baked-stuffed clams and deep fry whole fish almost every week. )
[Edited on 3-23-2012 by Woooosh]
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EnsenadaDr
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Negativity...
I have just about had it with negativity, if people don't like Baja and want to stay in their own little sterile environment in the United States,
then why bother posting here. Its people like these that cause tourism to go down in Mexico. Mexico is a third world country. You have to realize
that before you even come here, so if you don't like things that aren't done like the US...don't even bother coming. I love the US for its perks too,
but every place has their diamonds and diamonds in the rough. | Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
You are right that you can have a great vacation in Rosarito if you stay at Club Marena or similar accommodations. There are islands of civility and
exclusivity in Rosarito, but they do come with a price comparable to SoCal hotels. You can have a great vacation in Jamaica too if you don't leave
your Hotel compound. Rosarito is unable to support more upscale hideaways- there are 17 unfinished ones due to lack of demand and their out-of-whack
price tags.
My suggestions for Rosarito is to embrace it as the birthplace of the $1 Fish Taco, not $20 deep fried frozen lobster. Let the Guadalupe wine region
cater to the higher end foodies and wine gurus where they are already doing a great a job. In this tough economy the downtown tourist area of
Rosarito needs it's tourism to be rebuilt from the bottom price rungs up- not from the top down. Make it cheap, make it a value and go for volume,
not fleece the few with deeper pockets. Mexican tourists stay at the many decent 250 peso per night motels downtown, not the $250 a night Rosarito
Beach Hotel.
btw- Cheap food and drink for all in Vegas went away when "player club" programs were developed in the 90's to reward loyal players based on their
tracked play, not just for walking in their door. Drinks are free when you play- but the days of the $1 Prime Rib Buffet loss-leaders are long gone.
(I agree Vincent's is very good. I like the food at La Estancia too, just not eating off metal plates. I buy my fish and clams from a neighbor who
catches them right out front of my house. I'd rather eat a Rosarito fresh fish or clam than a piece of Talapia from the Chula Vista Costco that was
farm raised with hormones in the polluted aquaculture ponds of Vietnam. I make baked-stuffed clams and deep fry whole fish almost every week. )
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Just in case anyone is interested, I have posted a link below where we stay at Club Marena; the owner offers 50% specials during the off-season, so we
get a 2-bedroom condo above the crashing waves with unreal views for 75/night. No way we could anything close in SoCal.
http://www.vrbo.com/323456
Woooosh, I totally agree with you; let the Guadalupe Valley develop its higher-end clientelle, and let Rosarito cater to a lower price-point.
Frankly, that would give the higher-end foodies a good reason to visit a more "authentic" Mexican experience (in comparison). I think San Felipe
used to do a good job catering to that type of tourist; haven't been there for a long time since we usually bite the bullet and go to Mulege (my very
favorite place in Baja) if we have the time.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gallesram
so we get a 2-bedroom condo above the crashing waves with unreal views for 75/night. No way we could anything close in SoCal.
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Would you stay up there instead if you could? Not trying to be snarky....just asking out of curiosity.
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EnsenadaDr
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Great!!!
You know what, you must have been reading my mind. I have been wanting to do that for years...in fact last week on my way to the states I looked over
at the twin towers and was wondering if I could rent a condo there..I will call ASAP...thanks so much!!! | Quote: | Originally posted by gallesram
Just in case anyone is interested, I have posted a link below where we stay at Club Marena; the owner offers 50% specials during the off-season, so we
get a 2-bedroom condo above the crashing waves with unreal views for 75/night. No way we could anything close in SoCal.
http://www.vrbo.com/323456
Woooosh, I totally agree with you; let the Guadalupe Valley develop its higher-end clientelle, and let Rosarito cater to a lower price-point.
Frankly, that would give the higher-end foodies a good reason to visit a more "authentic" Mexican experience (in comparison). I think San Felipe
used to do a good job catering to that type of tourist; haven't been there for a long time since we usually bite the bullet and go to Mulege (my very
favorite place in Baja) if we have the time. |
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Dr., you'll really love it; owner is great to deal with and with that price, you can't beat it! If you end up going let me know what you think.
Dennis, I think it depends on what you're looking for (or in the mood for); if I'm looking for a beach experience right on the water, I don't know
where I could find something comparable in SoCal so for the price, so I'd probably choose the condo anythime. That isn't to say I would always choose
the condo over La Jolla or Coronado, for example; just depends on what I'm in the mood for.
I guess the point was that this experience clearly rivals anything in SoCal and sometimes exceeds it. I would not have guessed that until I actually
stayed there a few times. We'll probably go back again before the season starts, too. And each time we go, we venture into Rosarito and look for
something different (last time was La Estancia, a first), which is what prompted me to post in this thread.
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Bajafun777
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When we leave Las Gaviotas just outside of Rosarito at the end of October we find ourselves missing Baja until we return in June. We have been doing
this the past couple of years and plan to keep doing it. My wife found a great painting teacher in Rosarito that has her own studio. In fact the
lady use to go to the Catholic school in Calexico but lived in Mexicali with her family. Very nice lady and my wife will continue her studies with
her in June and she charges very little for the 4 times a month she teaches and give assignments of painting things for review and assistance each
week at her studio. We have also convinced more of our friends to come down and even more this year so good times await us again. Of course we drive
all over Baja and mainland Mexico all the way down to Puerto Vallarte so the fear fact goes away when using common sense driving and doing things in
Mexico.
I have found several friends as my wife has in the Las Gaviotas community and we enjoy going to the local fundraisers for kids and schools in the
area. We also go to different places to eat and enjoy Splash, Ruben's Twin Palms, Boddy;s, Estancia, and several other places in downtown Rosarito.
Have friends in Baja Malibu I visit and do some off road adventures and now with my Jeep back up and running will explore even more this year. We
also enjoy the grreat motorcycle rides we have on the Baja travels. Just a different type of FUN hunting than when we did 40 years ago as kids in
Baja but we still enjoy dancing together, walking on the beach and just enjoying our times together all GOOD here, LOL. Take Care & Travel
Safe---"No Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN' bajafun777
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
I have just about had it with negativity, if people don't like Baja and want to stay in their own little sterile environment in the United States,
then why bother posting here. Its people like these that cause tourism to go down in Mexico. Mexico is a third world country. You have to realize
that before you even come here, so if you don't like things that aren't done like the US...don't even bother coming. I love the US for its perks too,
but every place has their diamonds and diamonds in the rough. |
If it's okay with you, I'll keep living here in La Paz, okay?  The specific
topic of this discussion is not "what do you love about Rosarito?" It's "Why Isn't Rosarito a Vacation Destination?" Inherent to the discussion will
be the negative aspects of Rosarito.
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Calafia is closed, some say for reconstruction, some say until someone new buys it. For anyone interested in dining in the Calafia area, Las Olas
Grand has opened their restaurant, Los Cristales.
Check out the opening.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTbws5eRf7k&feature=share
The food is very good and the view beyond compare! Check out the review on Baja Review if you're in the area. I don't think that paper is online.
We understand how Rosarito may not be a vacation destination for some. We are so happy that it is no longer a vacation destination for us, either,
but instead now is our second home!
If you are interested in what is going on in Rosarito, you should sign up for Rosarito Town Crier. They send daily emails of lots of happenings in
and around Rosarito.
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Forgot to mention. Las Olas Grand's Los Cristales has happy hour every night 6-7 two-for-one wine and c-cktails and very good appetizers!
No, I do not have a monetary interest in Los Cristales, other than being a happy customer.....
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EnsenadaDr
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Living in La Paz...
Great to live south of the border...but oh so far from the US...I like border hopping myself!!! | Quote: | Originally posted by LaPazGringo
| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
I have just about had it with negativity, if people don't like Baja and want to stay in their own little sterile environment in the United States,
then why bother posting here. Its people like these that cause tourism to go down in Mexico. Mexico is a third world country. You have to realize
that before you even come here, so if you don't like things that aren't done like the US...don't even bother coming. I love the US for its perks too,
but every place has their diamonds and diamonds in the rough. |
If it's okay with you, I'll keep living here in La Paz, okay? The specific
topic of this discussion is not "what do you love about Rosarito?" It's "Why Isn't Rosarito a Vacation Destination?" Inherent to the discussion will
be the negative aspects of Rosarito. |
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EnsenadaDr
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That settles it...
La Marina for the weekend...Los Cristales for dinner!! Learned alot of new things here today, as to why Rosarito is STILL a vacation destination,
thanks Guys and Gals!! | Quote: | Originally posted by SDRonni
Calafia is closed, some say for reconstruction, some say until someone new buys it. For anyone interested in dining in the Calafia area, Las Olas
Grand has opened their restaurant, Los Cristales.
Check out the opening.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTbws5eRf7k&feature=share
The food is very good and the view beyond compare! Check out the review on Baja Review if you're in the area. I don't think that paper is online.
We understand how Rosarito may not be a vacation destination for some. We are so happy that it is no longer a vacation destination for us, either,
but instead now is our second home!
If you are interested in what is going on in Rosarito, you should sign up for Rosarito Town Crier. They send daily emails of lots of happenings in
and around Rosarito. |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Mexico is a third world country. You have to realize that before you even come here, so if you don't like things that aren't done like the US...don't
even bother coming. |
Technically, it is a developing country, not a 3rd world country.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
I have just about had it with negativity, if people don't like Baja and want to stay in their own little sterile environment in the United States,
then why bother posting here. |
Barking up the wrong tree,
If you haven't noticed, most/all BN posters are
VERY Pro-Mexico, often to the point of going overboard in the defense Mexico beacuse we all like it, if you think there is negativity
here, try sampling the General US Pop for thier opinion
on Mex
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bandido's behind every cactus !!
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EnsenadaDr
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third world...
Here is a definition I found in the Third World Traveler for Third World Country:
Characteristics:
The underdevelopment of the third world is marked by a number of common traits; distorted and highly dependent economies devoted to producing primary
products for the developed world and to provide markets for their finished goods; traditional, rural social structures; high population growth; and
widespread poverty. Nevertheless, the third world is sharply differentiated, for it includes countries on various levels of economic development. And
despite the poverty of the countryside and the urban shantytowns, the ruling elites of most third world countries are wealthy | Quote: | Originally posted by greengoes
| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Mexico is a third world country. You have to realize that before you even come here, so if you don't like things that aren't done like the US...don't
even bother coming. |
Technically, it is a developing country, not a 3rd world country. |
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You think four casinos will help Rosarito Tourism? As of yesterday Mayor Robles does. He says their presence "does not look bad". The style of
Mexican casinos in Rosarito is a storefront in a strip mall. Not what anyone NOB would associate with a casino that would attract tourism.
http://evolution.reborujo.org/juegos/establecimientos/852-ot...
Grant land use permits to 4 casinos in Rosarito Beach:
Up to 4 casinos could be installed in the municipality of Playas de Rosarito, said Mayor Aguirre Javier Robles, who said that their presence does not
look bad, because they are a tourist town and represent an added attraction. He said one of those who want create plans to install a shopping center,
which will be a trigger for Rosarito, as it also comes coupled with job creation, as is its construction and operation. "will be installed .... I have
no information whether to install or not to install, I know there are some land uses that have already been delivered, they are like 3 or 4, depending
on each of the employers, if they have the economic resources to install "said Aguirre Javier Robles added that would be in the northern part of the
town center.
Source: Uniradio reports
[Edited on 3-30-2012 by Woooosh]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
You are right that you can have a great vacation in Rosarito if you stay at Club Marena or similar accommodations. There are islands of civility and
exclusivity in Rosarito, but they do come with a price comparable to SoCal hotels. You can have a great vacation in Jamaica too if you don't leave
your Hotel compound. Rosarito is unable to support more upscale hideaways- there are 17 unfinished ones due to lack of demand and their out-of-whack
price tags.
My suggestions for Rosarito is to embrace it as the birthplace of the $1 Fish Taco, not $20 deep fried frozen lobster. Let the Guadalupe wine region
cater to the higher end foodies and wine gurus where they are already doing a great a job. In this tough economy the downtown tourist area of
Rosarito needs it's tourism to be rebuilt from the bottom price rungs up- not from the top down. Make it cheap, make it a value and go for volume,
not fleece the few with deeper pockets. Mexican tourists stay at the many decent 250 peso per night motels downtown, not the $250 a night Rosarito
Beach Hotel.
btw- Cheap food and drink for all in Vegas went away when "player club" programs were developed in the 90's to reward loyal players based on their
tracked play, not just for walking in their door. Drinks are free when you play- but the days of the $1 Prime Rib Buffet loss-leaders are long gone.
(I agree Vincent's is very good. I like the food at La Estancia too, just not eating off metal plates. I buy my fish and clams from a neighbor who
catches them right out front of my house. I'd rather eat a Rosarito fresh fish or clam than a piece of Talapia from the Chula Vista Costco that was
farm raised with hormones in the polluted aquaculture ponds of Vietnam. I make baked-stuffed clams and deep fry whole fish almost every week. )
[Edited on 3-23-2012 by Woooosh] |
Why do you over exaggerate about Rosarito Beach all the time Woooosh?
I just checked "Expedia" and anybody could stay at the Rosarito Beach hotel next weekend for $89 dollars a night. In fact there are many great deals
for nice hotels in the Baja area that average less than $100 dollars a night.
The only hotel that approaches that $250 dollar price tag in "Rosarito Beach" is the four start "Las Olas Resort and Spa." And I understand the rooms
are luxury condominium, and probably well worth the price.
http://lasolasresortspa.com/
I kinda agree with you on the "make the prices cheap," but I feel the same way every time I visit "Cabo San Lucas" and pay very high food, and
espeically drink costs. Sometimes the 'Marina del Rey feel to Cabo is a turn off, because I came to Mexico to get away from the LA environment, and
enjoy the slower pace of Mexico including cheap food and drinks.
Woooosh I'm not sure what you mean about the $1 dollar prime rib? If the prime rib was $1 dollar, or the margin of selling prime rib is very small or
even negative, but there are still great deals in Las Vegas, and you don't always need a players card to get those great deals. But yes the casino
push those "player cards."
My hats off the Greengoes who knows that Mexico is not a 3rd world country. I don't know why Americans always call Mexico a 3rd world country. ( on
second thought I do know why)
Mexico is an emerging market, or developing country with a very advanced economy.
Mexico does have 3rd world elements, but if you ever visit a southern state like Mississippi. You'll also see 3rd world elements.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
Mexico is an emerging market, or developing country with a very advanced economy.
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How does that work, Joe?? Rosarito is built to service tourism and very few tourists, relative to the recent past, will go there anymore.
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