elizabeth
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Menaje de Casa
I will moving permanently to Loreto the end of May, and have decided to hire a moving company to take my stuff to San Diego, and then to use another
one from there to Loreto.
The funny part is that most everything I own from furniture to art came from México in the first place, so I'll have paid to ship it from México to
Stinson Beach, and then again to send it back! But, I've done the numbers and it's cheaper than buying it all over again, even if I could find it
all.
Here's my question...has anyone had experience with the Mexican consulate in San Francisco dealing with a Menaje de Casa? How detailed did they want
it...and how long did it take for approval? Were you able to do it by just going in and not waiting days?
Thanks for any help......
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elizabeth,
Not San Fransisco, but I did a Menaje de Casa at the San Diego Mexican consulate a number of years ago. It was done with 1 day and no troubles at
all. Even though a different city, it's still the same family of bureacracy..and I hope that helps.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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SF Sucks as far as the consulate goes.
Like all bureauracricies Aduana loves paperwork.
Detail each piece in exquisite detail. Color, size # of cushions, etc.
Mechanical and electronics, description, mfrs model and serial #, color, accessories
Clothing sizes, colors, # of pieces
DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES SHIP ANYTHING CONSIDERED MEDICINE, VITAMINS, SUPPLEMENTS, MEDICAL SUCH AS BI-PAP MACHINES, ACCESSORIES, DIABETES
TESTING, OXIMETERS, ASPIRIN, TYLENOL, NOTHING! HAND CARRY THAT STUFF WITH YOU OR IT WILL BE CONFISCATED BY COFEPRIS REGULATIONS.
Do it in Excel
Have a PRO translate it to Spanish
Have the copies notarized
Make 5 color laser copies of each document
-Escuela Recio de La Vida
[Edited on 4-24-2012 by DavidE]
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rts551
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Elizabeth. Check with the consulate.... they are all different,,,and personnel change with the times. As fast as someone will tell you how it
works, it will change.
Again,, make your own contacts.
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Bear in mind that your manifesto needs to have every item listed with a number which matches that item and the number has to be placed on the item
when packed. If boxed, the box needs to have a list of contents which are shown on the Menaje list.
Also, the load STILL has to be inspected at the commercial inspection dock at Otay crossing, and an importer has to be hired to do the paperwork. If
your mover is a Mexican drayage company, they may be able to handle all that stuff at the crossing for you.
If he is still in business, "Jim from La Paz", who owns a big mini storage there, does this stuff for a living. I don't know how to reach him, but
someone on here probably does. Good luck with it!
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elizabeth
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Elizabeth. Check with the consulate.... they are all different,,,and personnel change with the times. As fast as someone will tell you how it
works, it will change.
Again,, make your own contacts. |
That is good advice, and I had called, but wanted to verify with actual real life experiences!
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by elizabeth
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Elizabeth. Check with the consulate.... they are all different,,,and personnel change with the times. As fast as someone will tell you how it
works, it will change.
Again,, make your own contacts. |
That is good advice, and I had called, but wanted to verify with actual real life experiences! |
for both importation and immigration our experience differed from others. In fact, early on and many years ago, we followed the advice of some on
immigration and it got us a fine.
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Four Freakin' consulates turned out to be wrong, definition: INCORRECT with Aduana at the border. I didn't take the time to sit down and pull these
recommendations out of thin air. Detail your stuff on Excel.
The "consulate" does not hang up a shipment at the border because the menaje was done incorrectly. Aduana SHCP/SAT does. Something I did in 2011.
The consulate will not intercept medical gear at the border if not accompanied in person by its owner COFEPRIS does.
But with this I am finished. Good fortune to you.
San Francisco
Los Angeles
San Diego
Phoenix
ALL DIFFERENT ADVICE
AND FOUR TIMES TOTALLY WRONG
Rollybrook has a beautiful webpage on menaje that is correct current and highly regarded by those of us that have done menaje's and live in Mexico
http://rollybrook.com/menaje.htm
[Edited on 4-25-2012 by DavidE]
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Loretana
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Elizabeth,
I believe the "Menaje de Casa" is a thing of the past.......
I crossed an entire household of furniture, appliances, doors, windows, granite countertops, etc. in 2010, and the Aduana at Tecate was only
interested in declared value. But here is a sample menaje de casa, for you to consider.
The advice a poster gave you about labelling the boxes and printing the exact contents on the outside of the box is absolutely true. Also, have a list
with all the boxes' contents in hand.
<<http://rollybrook.com/menaje.htm>>
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-Nikola Tesla
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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"I will moving permanently to Loreto the end of May, and have decided to hire a moving company to take my stuff to San Diego, and then to use another
one from there to Loreto".
Utterly different than hauling the items across in person. Different POE, different Aduaneros, Different Attitudes, Different compliance with SHCP/SAT
regulations.
The formal Menaje is dead but an exact copy of one is absolutely needed for a shipped load of goods, then the point is, or is not moot. Choose one.
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elizabeth
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Loretana
Elizabeth,
I believe the "Menaje de Casa" is a thing of the past.......
I crossed an entire household of furniture, appliances, doors, windows, granite countertops, etc. in 2010, and the Aduana at Tecate was only
interested in declared value. But here is a sample menaje de casa, for you to consider.
The advice a poster gave you about labelling the boxes and printing the exact contents on the outside of the box is absolutely true. Also, have a list
with all the boxes' contents in hand.
<<http://rollybrook.com/menaje.htm>> |
Does that mean that they charged you duty?
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Loretana
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Yes, Elizabeth, we were charged duty. I had two trucks pulling two 18 ft. Interstate Trailers. The Aduana made the declared value "fit" the number of
occupants, and as such, each person could import $6000.00 worth of goods.
There were four of us, and they made the documents total $24,000 in declared value.
I had in hand a Menaje de Casa declaration exactly like the one in the link I posted, but they ignored it.
We paid $1700.00 to import the whole load.
I'm not suggesting that you attempt such a feat. I'm just sharing my experience.
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