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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I am trying to focus on what is needed for the FMM by Mexican officials, NOT U.S. customs upon your return. In MEXICALI, no way would a birth
certificate or a recently expired passport work to get an FMM, as posted here by edm-1, last year.
Ralph, are you saying Tecate Mexico going SOUTH for FMM, or Tecate USA coming NORTH for proof of citizenship, that your son had no problems? [/quote
going South. his passcard worked for his FMM. Now you can say someone told you so. |
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Waited in line in TJ before I became inmigrado. A few people ahead of me had problems. I waited an hour while they tried everything from SENTRI cards,
to Pass Cards to birth certificates to driver license to get FMMs. Three migras said no and implied CLEARLY "Do not reach for your wallet". Three
years ago. Has this changed? Have they canned the migra that demanded my papers in TJ before I was allowed to board southbound?
Having been rejected for not having proof of exit for car permit at Sonoyta THREE PERMITS BACK, then having some gosh darnned fool on some other forum
scream from Butt#@$%, Texas that "Oh That Cannot Happen!" I am a little sensitive when I see written before my eyes recollections of things absolutely
contrary to my black & white experiences. I beg your forgiveness. |
David. not to get you riled up. but could it be that you had something to do with it? I notice that you can be rather aggressive.
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rts551
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OK everyone else. My son crosses with us and gets his paperwork twice a year at Tecate. He also insists on turning it in when expired. spends his
none school time in Baja so the immigration guy knows him by name. He is also fluent in Spanish. So his experience may not be the same as yours!
and he insists he is not an expert in crossing the border.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I am trying to focus on what is needed for the FMM by Mexican officials, NOT U.S. customs upon your return. In MEXICALI, no way would a birth
certificate or a recently expired passport work to get an FMM, as posted here by edm-1, last year.
Ralph, are you saying Tecate Mexico going SOUTH for FMM, or Tecate USA coming NORTH for proof of citizenship, that your son had no problems?
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going South. his passcard worked for his FMM. Now you can say someone told you so. |
There, I think I fixed your answer so it would show outside of my quote... Thank you for the new and different answer than I got from another Nomad...
which is very typical for any official process in Mexico!
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danaeb
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I fly often between TJ and La Paz. Landing in TJ, I have always been stopped at the checkpoint (going into baggage area) to show my passport and FMM.
I wouldn't take the chance that they might not ask.
Experience enables you to recognize a mistake every time you repeat it.
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I am trying to focus on what is needed for the FMM by Mexican officials, NOT U.S. customs upon your return. In MEXICALI, no way would a birth
certificate or a recently expired passport work to get an FMM, as posted here by edm-1, last year.
Ralph, are you saying Tecate Mexico going SOUTH for FMM, or Tecate USA coming NORTH for proof of citizenship, that your son had no problems?
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going South. his passcard worked for his FMM. Now you can say someone told you so. |
There, I think I fixed your answer so it would show outside of my quote... Thank you for the new and different answer than I got from another Nomad...
which is very typical for any official process in Mexico! |
If you would post from experience you would not have to fix a thing!
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David K
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I do post from experience... 47 years of experience since I began traveling in Baja.
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Marc
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I have a passport
My wife has a passport
My kids have passports
My grand-kids have passports
Just get one!!!
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captkw
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passport
your papers pleeze !! ya ,,and you live in a free crountry !! get a grip fellow american's..the us is going down FAST and you think you are free LOL
K&T
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wilderone
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Answer: Yes.
Before you board your flight to PV, you will be asked for your visa. You need your passport to get a visa. Maybe can get one with a birth certificate.
Buy why risk that when your bags are packed. You will be asked for your passport when crossing back into US. You will likely be allowed across the
border without one, but you will, for a fact, need to stand in the very slow-moving line for those without documentation. Why subject yourself to
that. Passports are relatively cheap - you can get on in about 2 weeks. They're good for 10 years. Just get it. Go online, plug in your zip code
and you will find about 20 addresses where you can apply for one, plus the forms which you can fill in at home.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
Answer: Yes.
Before you board your flight to PV, you will be asked for your visa. You need your passport to get a visa. Maybe can get one with a birth certificate.
Buy why risk that when your bags are packed. You will be asked for your passport when crossing back into US. You will likely be allowed across the
border without one, but you will, for a fact, need to stand in the very slow-moving line for those without documentation. Why subject yourself to
that. Passports are relatively cheap - you can get on in about 2 weeks. They're good for 10 years. Just get it. Go online, plug in your zip code
and you will find about 20 addresses where you can apply for one, plus the forms which you can fill in at home. |
Excellent advice!
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thebajarunner
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Add one more piece of advice
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
Answer: Yes.
Before you board your flight to PV, you will be asked for your visa. You need your passport to get a visa. Maybe can get one with a birth certificate.
Buy why risk that when your bags are packed. You will be asked for your passport when crossing back into US. You will likely be allowed across the
border without one, but you will, for a fact, need to stand in the very slow-moving line for those without documentation. Why subject yourself to
that. Passports are relatively cheap - you can get on in about 2 weeks. They're good for 10 years. Just get it. Go online, plug in your zip code
and you will find about 20 addresses where you can apply for one, plus the forms which you can fill in at home. |
Excellent advice! |
David is right, and to add another bit.
Just pay the extra few bucks and get the passport card also.
It fits in your wallet, you always have it with you, whereas the full passport may be sitting at home when you decide, spur of the moment, to cross
over the line.
We live up in Central Cal, we drove down to see family in San Diego, had time to kill and Teresa (who has her card in her wallet) says, "Let's go over
to Tijuana, see my aunt and have lunch"
Yeah, except my passport was at home, and they did not offer cards when I renewed it 8 years ago.
So, lunch at Old Town instead....
TJ would have been better
Get the card!!
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pascuale
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I got a PASSPORT thanks!! Its on the way!
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DavidE
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rt551, This is a forum and indeed I seem to, I appear to get cranky a lot. You see or rather read me, here, in a light that is different than my
aptitude, personality, and lifestyle. I get cranky here when I read about "absolute" statements that I know to not be "absolute". I know of far too
many episodes, witnessed in person where a so-called expert cost someone, time, a lot of time, legal (jail and expulsion from Mexico, and money (Three
thousand dollars). The last one happened fifteen years ago on a beach when a loudmouth gringo literally shouted me down, and declared an absolute "I
Do Not Know What A 'FACTURA' is but what you are telling these people (Daughter and son in law of acquaintances not quite yet friends) is pure B.S."
The kids had their Ford Bronco towed 450 miles, did not get a FACTURA and their parents were subsequently denied reimbursement for a tow bill and
related expenses.
So in real life, cara to cara I am noted for being mellow, unless someone gets in my face.
Por Favor, I am not "aggressive". that terms suggests that I prey upon people. I am CRANKY. I prey upon only a certain type of er... person.
FYI, I thanked everyone at Banjercito, and Aduana, in Sonoyta. What happened was not their fault. Entiendes? Sure, I threw a fit once I got back in my
car, but I was utterly alone and isolated. There is a huge difference between hourly employees following instructions to the letter, however stupid,
and quite another to be publicly dispensing incorrect advice, being advised by others that what was posted may not be the whole story and then coming
back and arguing about it. When I am wrong on this or any other forum (I tend to try and minimize the number of times) I will come back and
immediately shout it out publicly and then whine and plead my case as to how and why I could have been mistaken. Such was the case with the medicine
ROHYPNOL in another thread.
If my crankiness proves to be intolerable to some, please send me a PM and I promise I shall devote all my spare time to my garden, rather than
irritate folks.
Mil Gracias
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by pascuale
I got a PASSPORT thanks!! Its on the way! |
Not good for flying though.
Bob Durrell
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rts551
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Hey thanks DavidE. You are 100% right on the internet experts. There are a lot of them here. and its OK to be cranky, once in a while.
| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
rt551, This is a forum and indeed I seem to, I appear to get cranky a lot. You see or rather read me, here, in a light that is different than my
aptitude, personality, and lifestyle. I get cranky here when I read about "absolute" statements that I know to not be "absolute". I know of far too
many episodes, witnessed in person where a so-called expert cost someone, time, a lot of time, legal (jail and expulsion from Mexico, and money (Three
thousand dollars). The last one happened fifteen years ago on a beach when a loudmouth gringo literally shouted me down, and declared an absolute "I
Do Not Know What A 'FACTURA' is but what you are telling these people (Daughter and son in law of acquaintances not quite yet friends) is pure B.S."
The kids had their Ford Bronco towed 450 miles, did not get a FACTURA and their parents were subsequently denied reimbursement for a tow bill and
related expenses.
So in real life, cara to cara I am noted for being mellow, unless someone gets in my face.
Por Favor, I am not "aggressive". that terms suggests that I prey upon people. I am CRANKY. I prey upon only a certain type of er... person.
FYI, I thanked everyone at Banjercito, and Aduana, in Sonoyta. What happened was not their fault. Entiendes? Sure, I threw a fit once I got back in my
car, but I was utterly alone and isolated. There is a huge difference between hourly employees following instructions to the letter, however stupid,
and quite another to be publicly dispensing incorrect advice, being advised by others that what was posted may not be the whole story and then coming
back and arguing about it. When I am wrong on this or any other forum (I tend to try and minimize the number of times) I will come back and
immediately shout it out publicly and then whine and plead my case as to how and why I could have been mistaken. Such was the case with the medicine
ROHYPNOL in another thread.
If my crankiness proves to be intolerable to some, please send me a PM and I promise I shall devote all my spare time to my garden, rather than
irritate folks.
Mil Gracias |
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Dewey
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I have been going to Baja to surf since 1963. I have learned it best to have all of the correct paper work from both the United States and Mexico.
This includes a passport. It is like four wheel drive, if you need it, you are glad you have it. If you don't need it, so what, you had fun.
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