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Bob H
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Rebuilding Mulege River Homes??
Can anyone offer an update on the rebuilding of homes that were lost along the river after the last big flood a few years ago? Are there still many
places still sitting there totally destoyed? How many have rebuilt? Would love to see updated photos of how the places along the river look today.
And the casitas in the Orchard.
[Edited on 6-7-2012 by Bob H]
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chuckie
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Still lots not rebuilt, I'll take some pics this week yet, and put em up...
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I had gone to take pictures of SharksBaja's place after the first one, when I went back after the second one, I couldn't even find where it had been.
Poor guy just got scraped-off.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
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capt. mike
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someone would have to fund the clean up - who's going to do that? All the approved policies paid out. what's left is land based flotsam essentially.
the local gov't has no budget to bulldoze and truck haul all the collapsed block structures. The feds won't spend $$ on a nonessential tourist zone
Best one would hope is over time guys go in to see the many left park lessors and cut a deal for a staked property, clear it off and rebuild.
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toneart
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None of the riverfront homes have been rebuilt. All of the houses in the inner roads of The Orchard have been cleaned up as well as the
infrastructure. You would never know there had been disastrous floods with the inner neighborhood. There are lots of new owners that have brought new,
good energy to The Orchard. We all have Fideicomisos and have title to our own parcels and own our houses. There were a few homes in the inner part
that collapsed by being undermined by the swirling torrents. The individual homeowners have all had those lots bulldozed and cleared with the debris
hauled out in trucks.
We are still able to get flood insurance. All those that were totaled who had insurance were paid in full and then walked away. We are prepared in the
event of another flood. We also have a strong homeowners' association. It is a legal entity, registered with the Mexican Government. We have amassed
several thousand dollars in reserve to maintain the common ground and infrastructure. The should come in handy in the event of another disaster. It is
approaching three years since the last flood. That has allowed more time for fishing, reading and contemplating our navels.
The exception to the clean up is a few homeowners that were along the river who have just walked away from the mess. Also, all the rental properties
that Roberto, the owner of the park owned have not been cleaned up. He is broke, but doing the best he can, I guess.
There are no lessees remaining. All are individually owned now. 
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toneart,
There just haven't been a huge number of disastrous Mulege floods in the last few hundred years. But when it does happen, it isn't pretty. Folks in
the USA southeast face IMHO an even greater risk of a category 5 hurricane strike. People along the San Andreas fault may face a huge quake very
infrequently but when one occurs the only escape route would be straight up into the air.
Time to enjoy where you're at. Others face the same risks in other fashion. Is the lady across the river still there? The one with the mango orchard?
The lady who makes the most outrageous mango jam?
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Mulegena
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Dulce Mango
If you mean Amelia of Huerta Don Chano the answer is yes.
She's making candied sweets right now and the best tamales and empanadas going, imo.
She can be contacted through her brother, Manuel, who operates the campground and home rentals on the property, 165-153-0720.
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captkw
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MULUGE
SINCE 78-79 WINTER i HAVE SEEN THE RIVER EATING UP HOUSE'S THEIR !! I DONT THINK TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TRY AGAIN BECAUSE THAT WOULD JUST BE
DUMB !!
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
SINCE 78-79 WINTER i HAVE SEEN THE RIVER EATING UP HOUSE'S THEIR !! I DONT THINK TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TRY AGAIN BECAUSE THAT WOULD JUST BE
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A little grammar lesson, Capt.: There; Not "their" (It is not possessive. It is a place). Houses; not house's (Again, not possessive. It is plural).
Don't; not "dont". (It is a contraction of do and not). And please STOP SHOUTING!
It is rather ironic that the word "dumb' is included in your paragraph.
Yes, I am testy about this subject. I have been called dumb before for building in The Orchard. I have been called "King of The Mud People". You may
remember that. It was right here on this forum.That was after Hurricane John in 2006. We have endured two more since. The last one, Jimena, was the
worst in history to have ever passed through Mulege. One is aware of the potential for flooding, but you don't expect three huge ones in a four year
period.
True, in hindsight, it was not the wisest move to have built there in the first place. I wouldn't do it again. But the setting was beautiful, the
houses are works of art, and at the time it felt like we were making a stake in Paradise. Add to that, Roberto is a genius in home design and he's the
slickest salesman I have ever met! He can look you in the eye and smile while he is picking your pocket. Then he will tell you how he is your best
friend and that you enjoyed that.
So, here is the straight scoop: I am not aware of anyone who has "rebuilt", yet those who pass erroneous judgment keep using that word. Nobody
who lost their house has rebuilt. A couple of them did build palapas and trailer pads because they still had title to their lots. And they are getting
great use out of them. They are enjoying their Paradise.
We, who remain, are those whose houses were not wiped out. We cleaned up. That is all it took. Oh, sure, we lost furniture and appliances and it was a
lot of work, but we had great help. Also, most of us had insurance that paid for the damage and clean up. It would be dumb to not
protect our investment. It is there; still standing and looking great! Why would you walk away from that?
As I said in an earlier post in this string. We are braced and prepared for the next one. It is kinda like life itself. You catch what is thrown at
you and you make the best of it. You deal with it. Life is great!
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captkw
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houses on river banks
HOLA/HI..spelling is not very big thing for me !! and I hope that I did not afend/offend you !! and I like the area myself and miss the bakey place
and also BIG JOHN who had the trailer with the split bamboo for sides....But no ? for me as I have seen the aftermath too many times of the rios wrath
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
HOLA/HI..spelling is not very big thing for me !! and I hope that I did not afend/offend you !! and I like the area myself and miss the bakey place
and also BIG JOHN who had the trailer with the split bamboo for sides....But no ? for me as I have seen the aftermath too many times of the rios wrath
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Very classy reply, Capt. You be verra cool in my book! 
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captkw
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toneart
HOLA,,thanks !! Im lousy at spelling ..but make motors run and girls purr !! K & T
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Toneart,
What you folks have done in your area of the Orchard is amazing, that spirit continues to make Mulege the great place it is.
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I've been checking out the riverfront every year since Jimena, with the thought of buying. We've decided to stay RVers, but that's a different story.
I really like the houses in The Orchard. Great, very pretty neighborhood and easy walking distance to town.
Jimena was a HUGE wet, wet, wet hurricane that lingered if I remember correctly. I bet the houses there now will withstand a very high percentage of
future storms.
Like toneart mentioned, there still are riverfront parcels available. There are a few just west of The Orchard that still have the remnants of the
houses that were washed away with for sale signs.
A wise thing to do if you want one of those lots would be build a palapa like structure with a trailer beneath that you can haul out when hurricanes
approach the area. Hook up the trailer, put all you can inside and in the back of the tow vehicle, and wait out the storm on higher ground.
[Edited on 6-9-2012 by SFandH]
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mulegemichael
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we live just downriver from the orchard in a little gringo park called the rio oasis...we had two meters of roaring water over the roof of our home
with jimena; everything just bobbing around inside it....mucked it all up, cleaned it all, sanitized and here we sit in paradise, enjoying our
wonderful view of the river....as my bride, beachgirl says, "storms weed out the weak".
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
None of the riverfront homes have been rebuilt. All of the houses in the inner roads of The Orchard have been cleaned up as well as the
infrastructure. You would never know there had been disastrous floods with the inner neighborhood. There are lots of new owners that have brought new,
good energy to The Orchard. We all have Fideicomisos and have title to our own parcels and own our houses. There were a few homes in the inner part
that collapsed by being undermined by the swirling torrents. The individual homeowners have all had those lots bulldozed and cleared with the debris
hauled out in trucks.
We are still able to get flood insurance. All those that were totaled who had insurance were paid in full and then walked away. We are prepared in the
event of another flood. We also have a strong homeowners' association. It is a legal entity, registered with the Mexican Government. We have amassed
several thousand dollars in reserve to maintain the common ground and infrastructure. The should come in handy in the event of another disaster. It is
approaching three years since the last flood. That has allowed more time for fishing, reading and contemplating our navels.
The exception to the clean up is a few homeowners that were along the river who have just walked away from the mess. Also, all the rental properties
that Roberto, the owner of the park owned have not been cleaned up. He is broke, but doing the best he can, I guess.
There are no lessees remaining. All are individually owned now.
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I stopped by your house on Feb 8. Left a note on the door.
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baitcast
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"Storms weed out the weak" LUV IT!!
Rob
Anyone can catch fish in a boat but only \"El Pescador Grande\" can get them from the beach.
I hope when my time comes the old man will let me bring my rod and the water will be warm and clear.
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Bob H
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Thank you for all of your excellent replies. Great to hear from you Tony and know that all is well with you down there. If you are still there, say
hello to Bob and T from us.
[Edited on 6-9-2012 by Bob H]
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J.P.
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Mulege
We were in Mulege in april and indeed it was a sad sight to see. personaly after what has happend over the last 10 years I would not consider buying
or building anywhere along the river.
In the past we enjoyed going there but this trip was different . the whole area seems to have a seedy and unkept look to it we probably would not
stayed as long as we did but we found a resturant downtown that was to die for.
On our trip north we pretty well decided it was too long of a drive with not that much to see in between soooo in all likely hood that was our last
trip down there.
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DavidE
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Uh, JP
"we found a resturant downtown that was to die for"
Care to share?
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