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freygirl
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FMM
My family and I are driving to Baja to work at an orphanage for 1 week.
Do we need Fmm cards. We will not be going any further south than Ensenada.
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woody with a view
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no.
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David K
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No one will bother you, but 'technically':
a) a tourist is required to have an FMM for stays longer than 72 hours ANYWHERE in Mexico.
b) a tourist can not work in Mexico, even volunteer work.
c) to work in Mexico one needs an FM-3 work visa.
Now, back to 'reality': Nobody will know how long you were in Ensenada, so as far as others are concerned you are there less than 72 hours... as
Ensenada is inside the 'border zone' (no FMM needed inside the border zone for up to 72 hours).
Now, wouldn't it be great if INM actually had these rules provided on a handout or on the Internet? (INM is the Mexican Federal Immigration agency)...
Then you wouldn't have to ask strangers on Baja Nomad for their interpretation of the facts!  
Have a great time and thank you for helping the orphans!
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shari
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yes
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Bob and Susan
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the correct answer is YES
you said "WORK"
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BajaBlanca
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yup.
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freygirl
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am i correct in assuming that if i just go to VISIT the orphanage then i dont need one.
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woody with a view
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yes!
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bajaguy
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somewhere
If someone wanted to get technical, "they" will know.....maybe the Mexican auto Insurance documents or toll road receipts.....you will have insurance,
right???
Do the right thing and get the FMM............you will be glad you have it if there is a problem.
Besides, you are not going to "work" at the orphanage, you are going to "visit"
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by freygirl
am i correct in assuming that if i just go to VISIT the orphanage then i dont need one. |
.........."a tourist is required to have an FMM for stays longer than 72 hours ANYWHERE in Mexico".............
Follow the rules................
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Mula
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I don't see what the big problem/resistance is here.
Just get the FMM, be legal and worry free.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by freygirl
am i correct in assuming that if i just go to VISIT the orphanage then i dont need one. |
Up to 72 hours... see above if longer!
(But seriously, if you 'on accident' were there longer... NO ONE would know, since your 'papers' are not checked by anyone in Baja CA Norte... just
don't break any laws... on accident)!
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BajaBlanca
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getting an FMM is so easy, right there at the border, fill out paperwork, pay up. One should follow the rules exactly the same way we expect
foreigners to comply with our laws ! Am I right or am I right ? LOL
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBlanca
getting an FMM is so easy, right there at the border, fill out paperwork, pay up. One should follow the rules exactly the same way we expect
foreigners to comply with our laws ! Am I right or am I right ? LOL |
You are right. I don't know why anyone would encourage others to break the law.
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Bajaboy
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actually got checked last week.......just get the card(s)
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David K
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Hear that Woody? Don't be a bad boy 
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
actually got checked last week.......just get the card(s) |
Between the border and Ensenada, where the OP is going?
(or at the same place they have always checked them, just inside the Baja CA Sur border, on Hwy. 1?)
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BAJA.DESERT.RAT
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i " kinda " recollect the fmm is free for up to a week or so in a certain area between the border and ????
true or false ?
BIEN SALUD, DA RAT
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BAJA.DESERT.RAT
i " kinda " recollect the fmm is free for up to a week or so in a certain area between the border and ????
true or false ?
BIEN SALUD, DA RAT |
TRUE... you sometimes need to argue with the adueña to issue you one... Good for up to 7 days ANYWHERE in Mexico, free.
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
(But seriously, if you 'on accident' were there longer... NO ONE would know, since your 'papers' are not checked by anyone in Baja CA Norte... just
don't break any laws... on accident)! |
But seriously, don't encourage people to break the law.
And you never know where or when your papers may be checked.......no matter what anybody on this forum says.
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