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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 09:50 AM
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Going down soon. Anyone want to share any details about the best spots on the islands to explore by water and maybe hike on land?

I'll have a dinghy and a kayak.

How far out is Smith Island? I was looking at it on Google Earth, what's the body of water like that goes way into the middle of the island?
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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 10:16 AM


down towards the middle of Smith i found this cove that turned into an island. we were there at lowish tide and it was make able. we came in from the north and at the south of the cove it was 2 feet deep over the reef. maybe at negative low tide it might be dry. cool place to clean the fish! it looks VERY different from the water. that cove you talk about i drove right past and didn't see it from the water. something for next trip i guess.


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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 11:26 AM


The channel Woody shows separates Smith from a smaller island and would be interesting in a kayak. There are coves on the east and west sides of the Smith toward the south end that are separated by a gravel bar and would also be an excellent destination and not far from the channel above. It's about 2 miles from the outer edge of La Gringa to Smith.

Ventana and several smaller islets are also about 2 miles out from several access points north of town and interesting to explore by kayak. No really long deserted beaches but a lot of small coves with beach or cobble to run up on.

Pay attention to the wind forecast http://www.sailflow.com/windandwhere.iws?regionID=130&si... and you can get some good tidal surge around some islands. Also be sure to get your island permit at the Parque office in town.
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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 02:17 PM


Thx guys. Anyone know what the going rate to go out on a Panga is?
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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 02:44 PM


You will need an Island permit(wrist band) to explore or hike on the islands. They are available, in town, by the park, in a Double wide trailer. I think they are 50 pesos/day/person. Depending on the time of year some islands are restricted because birds are nesting.



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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 03:12 PM


+/- $200



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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 07:12 PM


200.00 would be for all day, and that's a fishing rate. You should be able to do better than that. No need to stay on an island all day, anyway, especially this time of year.

The currents on the inside of Smith can really get going. I wouldnt do a kayak unless you and the kids are strong paddlers. Besides, you'd have to drive out towards La Gringa and then your vehicle is exposed in a remote area while you are out kayaking. That area USED to be the subject of much theft of vehicles and camps but that was long ago; maybe it's changed.

Isla Ventana has a nice cove on the west side; very protected and there is some hiking.

Just be aware that no-see-ums can be a problem around many of the islands around sunrise and sunset.

Gotta do Puerto Don Juan, too, for the clamming.

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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 08:40 PM


You don't need panga for BOLA islands if you have a kayak. From camps Daggets or Archelon all these islands are within 2-2.5 hours paddling.

Isla Smith - hike to the top if you are glutton to punishment. Extinct volcano, but there isn't much to see on the top. A lot of coves on the West side, and a couple on the East. Big body of water in the middle is one of West coves, with narrow mouth.

Isla Ventana - the closest to shore camps. Relatively short hike (1 mile?) through the "crack" from North to South bay. There are just 2 bays. Don't get lost in arroyos, the trail isn't marked well.

Isla Angel de la Guardia - too far for a novice kayaker or sit-on-top kayak. If you camp overnight and are prepared for weather change, there are coves there too.

Other islands in the bay are small, basically rocks.

Islands are clean because are protected - it is a national park. Didn't need no stinky permit, though I was there in winter. Guys in official-looking panga came up in the morning when noticed my tent in Ventana, then realized that one meager kayaker couldn't possibly have nets or a lot of garbage, and waved me and turned away without landing.

Other places to explore with overnight stay are to the South-West, realistic to explore if you camp overnight:

Puerto Don Juan - muddy and shallow in low tide, but sheltered from wind. There can be strong current before the Puerto in low tide.

Isla Pescador - island is tiny and useless, but the beach in the bay is nice. 2 years ago gringos with summer cabins (not houses really) put 2 palapas in the North end of the bay where kayakers used to camp. See, there are no cabins at this end, but with palapas it looks sort of "private" for those who don't know. Besides, you don't want to camp only to wake up to some loud picnic next to you.

Punta Soldato - not the punta itself, but the cove to the South. It is actually the beginning of bigger Las Animas bay.



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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 09:50 PM


Thanks for the info guys. How bad/dangerous are the tidal currents around the islands. Going out with the kids (8 and 10).

We won't paddle out to the islands.


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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 10:15 PM


I forgot to ask - what kayak, but I think I know now. Sounds like it's not a fast and narrow sea kayak, so I wouldn't suggest paddling farther then Isla Ventana from shore camps North of the town. Guys do paddle wide and slow sit-on-top kayaks as far as Isla Smith from camps Daggets or Archelon, but they have no kids to look after.

Currents can be strong enough to slow you down when you paddle or ride heavily loaded dinghy with a tiny motor. I don't think they are strong enough to cause any problems when you paddle around the island, staying close to island. Having said that, Puerto Don Juan is NOT an island but it is same far if not farther than Isla Ventana, and the current before the Puerto can slow you down too.

As a bottom line... With a slow kayak or slow dinghy you can go to Ventana or Don Juan. Wind can be more pain than current. To Isla Smith... from Daggets... with 2 kids and woman... better take panga.

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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 10:56 PM


Thanks Alm. We have a well powered 11 foot dinghy, an inflatable paddle board, and an inflatable kayak.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-11-Long-2-Person-Inflatable-Kaya...
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[*] posted on 6-26-2012 at 09:59 AM


In a well powered dinghy you can go to Isla Smith or Ventana or Puerto Don Juan from pretty much any shore camp. This type of kayak is sure for very short trips and in sheltered bays.

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[*] posted on 6-26-2012 at 10:06 AM


I wouldn't get too far from shore in an inflatable kayak, they ride high on the water and wind will blow them all over the place. It'll be OK for looking at sea life along the shoreline when not windy. The tides shouldn't be a problem in a well powered dinghy, just be aware around some island points at mid-tide during full or new moon times.
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[*] posted on 6-26-2012 at 11:01 AM


There are some "wash rocks" in the BOLA area. Get the Fish N Map of the northern Sea of Cortez. It has them. Good maps for fishing, too.

I have seen currents on the inside of Smith that were AT LEAST four knots. Strong.




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