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Ken Cooke
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Most shops charge about $100 per axle. I am going to do the rear axle myself, and pay to have the front axle done professionally.
The timing belt and the tensioner I will have done by a Pro as well.
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choyero
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| Quote: | Originally posted by whistler
Sorry Ken,can't help you.
Like I said before,American vehicles have come a long way.
I checked out a Jeep Liberty,Corolla,Honda Civic,etc but ended up with a Ford Focus .I pick it up tomorrow. |
American cars would have been a lot better a lot earlier had the US manufactures listened to Edward Deming and his approach of using stastical quality
control earlier, the US auto industry blew him off at first. Toyota brought him on board and his approach of using statistical quality control greatly
reduced their defects per million units. Ford was the 1st US company to use his approach after seeing the good it did Toyota, and they greatly
reduced their defects per millions as well.
In my opinion the 2 best vehicle manufactures, are Toyota and Ford... the 1st two companies to utilize Deming's reseach. I've owned and currrently
own both. I like the Ford's price tag better though. Wish I could say the same for the Chrysler products I've owned...something that will never happen
again.
edited to add:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Edwards_Deming
[Edited on 7-6-2012 by choyero]
I dont have anger management issues, I have idiot management issues.
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Ken Cooke
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(Japanese-style) High-Pressure Sales
This morning, I looked at the Timing and Drive Belts - The belts looked as if they are in EXCELLENT condition. None of the broken/deteriorated
sections like the Mechanic told he that he "saw".
Funny, he could not show me any of these deteriorated sections of timing belt yesterday. Hmmmm.
The problem with Japanese-made vehicles is that they are not engineered for home/shade tree repair work. The Repair Dept. is closely tied to the
Sales Dept. The two are intertwined.
Go to a Jeep repair Dept. and you walk up to a Service counter that is next to a Parts counter. Coincidence? I am sure the Honda family chanted on this Feng-shui as a means of duping dumbfounded American consumers nto
submitting to their worst fears and automotive ignorance.
[Edited on 7-6-2012 by Ken Cooke]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by whistler
The way you feel about Chrysler is the way I feel about GM. |
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choyero
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Never owned a GM. Had a few for company work trucks, not much to say good or bad about them.
I've owned 3 70's era cj's...lots of electrical issues, rust issues, leak issues and rear axle issues...fun, but lots of wrenching required. owned a
95 wrangler, electrical issues. owned a 98 ram 2500 short box which broke 2 rear dana 60 axles, the truck was never loaded heavy and only had 39k on
it when sold. The body also cracked everywhere, including the body mt structs. The bed was made of extremely light gauge sheetmetal and plastic, on a
2500 work truck,? what a joke. I was happy to see that truck drive away.
I like fords and toyota's. Lots of parts in baja for them too, my rear axle on the dodge 2500 took 5 weeks to locate and cost twice what a ford would
have, $1500 usd from a yonke in la paz.
I dont have anger management issues, I have idiot management issues.
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by whistler
Ken.I think you might be confused about your timing belt.This belt is what connects your crankshaft to your camshafts.Unless,you take off the timing
belt covers,you can't see it.
Usually,they recommend certain mileage for a change.
Toyota use to recommend a timing belt change at 60,000 miles.
My nieces 2000 Camry's failed at 55,000.She was lucky that she did not bend any valves or damaged the head.
http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2814500 |
I looked at the serpentine belt today, and there weren't missing sections like the mechanic told me that he saw. Yesterday, he could not show me
where this damaged section was. Do you think he was lying?
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FYI: 2005+ 4.0 liter V-6 Tacomas have a timing chain, the earlier 3.4 V-6 had a belt... and the recommended change was at 90,000 miles (I did that on
my '01 Tacoma).
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holy moly
I put about 50K on my volvo a year !! 6k in 5 years wow!!
[Edited on 7-7-2012 by captkw]
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The timing belt broke on a Nissan 300Z that I had and it bent a couple valves this was in the early 90s and it cost 2,500 dls to get it fixed at the
dealer. I still drive a Nissan and I watch the milage closely.
[Edited on 7-7-2012 by J.P.]
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by whistler
I don't know if he was lying or not.I am saying that the serpentine belt is not a timing belt.The changing of it is determined by mileage.
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I have 92,000 mi. on the Honda Pilot - It is recommended at 110,000.
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I have a Suburban that my wife wont let me get rid of, it began running rough and sometines backfireing.We put it on the computer and decided it was
the timing chain, tore it down and put in a new chain and both gears. now it sounds like a 5.7 is supposed to sound.
[Edited on 7-7-2012 by J.P.]
[Edited on 7-7-2012 by J.P.]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by whistler
Ken, if the vehicle didn't see hard usage or is acting like J.P described,I wouldn't worry too much about the timing chain.
Heck,just fix the brakes and drive the vehicle.
Maybe keep a new serpentine belt in the vehicle,just in case.
Do the brake fluid change latter when you have the funds. |
lLike Whistler says do the Brakes and drive it. Here Ensenada a brake job usually runs around 800p I am shure you could get it done in TJ by one of
your Off road Buddys probably cheaper it's not Rocket Science and you said you could do the back ones belive me if you can do the back the front is
easier the hardest part of the front is taking the wheel off.
[Edited on 7-7-2012 by J.P.]
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by whistler
Ken, if the vehicle didn't see hard usage or is acting like J.P described,I wouldn't worry too much about the timing chain.
Heck,just fix the brakes and drive the vehicle.
Maybe keep a new serpentine belt in the vehicle,just in case.
Do the brake fluid change latter when you have the funds. |
This is exactly what I plan to do. Change out the rear brakes myself (0.55 mm currently), and next month take it to a shop for the front brakes (1.0
mm currently). The car is parked and not being used daily.
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