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CortezBlue
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Solar Guru's, Hep me
I am curious if CFE offers any kind of credit for installing Solar and using it to, essentially, run my electric meter backwards. I am thinking if I
don't go down to SF for a month in the summer, a solar system could create a ton of energy that, maybe, I could get a credit for.
Let me if you know
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BigWooo
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I have a friend with solar panels "on grid". He's done his research and found out that running your meter backwards is the only benefit, there is
currently no mechanism for, or program to issue credit, at least in BCS.
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BajaBlanca
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boy that sure would have been a nice bonus !
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meme
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Yes, there is a program here in San Felipe with CFE.
We are presently living in a house(friends) in EDR that has had solar installed to be tied to the grid by Baja Batteries recently.It's not cheap, but
these folks use a lot of electric in the winter here. Jeremy Blinkovich would be happy to work with you Im sure. This to our knowledge is the first
& only residence to do this here.
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Sandlefoot
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Running the meter backwards does put power back into the system. But when the guys working on a power outage or maintenance of any kind the power is
turned off before they do their work. Isn't this power from a different, unknown to them source, possibly going to cause smoke if it hits some
unsuspecting line man? The local power provider needs to know if some one is putting power into the system. There is equiptment to inerface
correctly to avoid problems. Just a thought!!!! I know NOB they have d'vib equiptment on the service trucks, don't know if they do SOB.
Happy Trails
[Edited on 7-7-2012 by Sandlefoot]
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meme
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CFE has installed a special/different kind than usual type of meter here (that the owner paid for) so they are all very aware that this system is
installed here.
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choyero
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sandlefoot
Running the meter backwards does put power back into the system. But when the guys working on a power outage or maintenance of any kind the power is
turned off before they do their work. Isn't this power from a different, unknown to them source, possibly going to cause smoke if it hits some
unsuspecting line man? The local power provider needs to know if some one is putting power into the system. There is equiptment to inerface
correctly to avoid problems. Just a thought!!!! I know NOB they have d'vib equiptment on the service trucks, don't know if they do SOB.
Happy Trails
[Edited on 7-7-2012 by Sandlefoot] |
Good point, I have 3 retired lineman in my immediate family. I've heard about this my whole life, usually it was a generator that provided the power
that flowed back into the grid. My dad has lost a few friends this way. It usually occurs in a storm when there is a power outage, the linemen thinks
the line is dead, but that is not the case as someone is energizing it with generator.
I dont have anger management issues, I have idiot management issues.
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DavidE
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The Comision Federal de Electricidad will have all the answers right there in their office.
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Bajajorge
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I know in San Felipe there are people having both solar and CFE. Their meters do run backwards at times. CFE gives credit on the electric bill, they
don't pay cash for power you give them through solar though.
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capt. mike
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1st i have heard that CFE has any grid tie programs. to do it safely there are all kinds of disconnects and a 2nd meter required. When the system has
a problem or the grid goes down there has to be controls in place that prevent solar from feeding in.
that's how all approved interconnect agreements work in the states for utility companies that have grid tie programs.
if you are on a proper grid tie batteries are not part of the system.
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larryC
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
1st i have heard that CFE has any grid tie programs. to do it safely there are all kinds of disconnects and a 2nd meter required. When the system has
a problem or the grid goes down there has to be controls in place that prevent solar from feeding in.
that's how all approved interconnect agreements work in the states for utility companies that have grid tie programs.
if you are on a proper grid tie batteries are not part of the system. |
Actually you can have batteries in a grid system. What some people do is run the grid power through their inverter/charger input, the inverter passes
the power through to the house and charges your batteries at the same time. If the grid power goes down then the inverter switches from a charger to
an inverter and your electric service is not interrupted. This is not a true grid tie system since no power is put back into the grid and you don't
get any creit from CFE, but you also don't lose power during the frequent (at least here in Bahia) power outages. You can also sell your solar panels
since you don't need them as the grid is doing the battery charging.
Larry
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capt. mike
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thx Larry - interesting system.
but - if you are making power off the panels [grid tied application] then your elec bill is reduced against what would otherwise have been taken off
the grid - why not have a grid tied solar system like done in the states?
You still could arrange a battery bank for back up when the CFE goes down, i have seen the layout for that - but here no one wants batteries in their
solar due to extra cost and maintenance - but our power rarely goes down and if so only a short time.
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larryC
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Capr Mike
You are right you can have a true grid tied system (getting credit from the power company) and have battery back up. It is just more expensive to buy
and maintain batteries and if the power is pretty reliable then probably not worth the hassle. Here in Bahia the power is down at least once a week,
sometimes only for an hour or so sometimes much longer. Luckily its a problem that money can fix.
Larry
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DavidE
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I place the value including transportation and time spent, on freezer contents, weighed against whatever a battery bank will cost. With my chest
freezer I used to have a minimum of four hundred dollars worth of stuff in it. Sometimes, with lobster and lots of frozen berries, a lot more than
that. It doesn't take too many trips to the gasolinera at a hundred dollars a whack to learn that a generator is not the final solution. This is
reinforced when changing oil, or yanking the rope a few hundred times to get it started.
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larryC
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David
I couldn't agree more, generators are a necessary evil. I set my solar system up so that I am 98% solar independant. I only put maybe 20 hours a year
on my generator.
Are you on the grid on off?
Larry
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baconjr
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Looking for off grid system in Ensenada area. Does anybody know of a legit solar company in the area?
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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baconjr
I sent you a U2U...
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captkw
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larry c
HOLA, i HOPE YOU DRAIN THE CARB AND TANK ?? k&t
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larryC
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Capt
I have looked for but I can't find the carb. It must be hidden somewhere behind a bracket or something.
Off grid, 12-190 watt evergreen solar panels on solar trackers, 2-3648 stacked Outback inverters, 610ah LiFePo4 48v battery bank, FM 60 and MX60
Outback charge controllers, X-240 Outback transformer for 240v from inverters, 6500 watt Kubota diesel generator.
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captkw
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lost carb
HOLA, Its gotta be there somewhere LOL you can add STABLE to the fuel but I'd recommend draining if sitting idle for long periods....K & T
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