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Bajaahh
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Thanks again for the info, as always, the Nomads have the answers...
Im sorry if I brought up an old topic but Wikipedia has no soul, its the stories and experiences that I was hoping to learn from. Thank you!
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thebajarunner
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The cartilla
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaahh
Thanks again for the info, as always, the Nomads have the answers...
Im sorry if I brought up an old topic but Wikipedia has no soul, its the stories and experiences that I was hoping to learn from. Thank you!
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First of all, thanks for your comment on the "wicked Wikipedia"
I shudder when I see that referenced. I try never, ever to click on the Wik- cuz it is so incredibly unreliable and often deeply inaccurate.
OK- got that off my chest.
The Cartilla-
Back in the early 80's when we brought several boys from the orphanage to live with us they had to have passports and F-1 visas.
One of the boys was 16 and he could not get his passport because he did not have the cartilla.
(hate to admit this part.... oh well)
I have friends in D.F. - extremely high up in the old PRI.
We contacted him, soon a cartilla arrived.
Interestingly, when we went in with all the docs in Mexicali to get the passport the officer issued it without any delay-
BUT>>>>>> He smiled and said something to the affect that he recognized that this was not obtained by legit means,
but he still signed us off.
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Ateo
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I would say this entry on Wikipedia about Baja is quite accurate:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baja_California
Wiki ain't perfect though..............
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
Wiki ain't perfect though.............. |
That's for sure, but it's a place to start in many cases.
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thebajarunner
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I dunno bout that, Dennis
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
Wiki ain't perfect though.............. |
That's for sure, but it's a place to start in many cases. |
Hard for me to read with one half of my brain trying to absorb new info,
and the other half scanning for inaccuracies and mistakes.
It is a rare day that I will "Click the Wik"
D
By the way,
sure good to see you clicking away these days....
How are you feeling?
Is the left hand doing any of the keyboard work??
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willardguy
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WTF! maybe you folks dont get the idea behind wikipedia! the millions of entries are written collaboratively by volunteers. any of these entries can
be edited by anyone with access to the site.
if you're gonna go thru the trouble of scanning for inaccuracies and you believe you got a better answer, why not edit the article in the spirit of
wikipedia and enhance the site, instead of fothermucking it?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by thebajarunner
By the way,
sure good to see you clicking away these days....
How are you feeling?
Is the left hand doing any of the keyboard work?? |
I'm doing well, under the circumstances. Left side is coming along too. I'm just trying to keep it occupied with the CAPS KEY.
Thanks, Dick.
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thebajarunner
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Great news, D-man, progress is progress
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| Quote: | Originally posted by thebajarunner
By the way,
sure good to see you clicking away these days....
How are you feeling?
Is the left hand doing any of the keyboard work?? |
I'm doing well, under the circumstances. Left side is coming along too. I'm just trying to keep it occupied with the CAPS KEY.
Thanks, Dick. |
Of course, had this been posted on Wiki?? then we could infer that perhaps your left is in action and again it is inaction,
but then again, if this were a mirror your left would be your right and right is good, is it not....
(Written in WikiSpeak)
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DENNIS
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Gimme a minute....I have to run that through Google Translate. 
You're right...progress is progress........my main source of motivation.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaahh
So is the draft always in effect? Other than a deferment, is it mandatory for the guys to join? And whats the minimum time required?
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Mandatory. It's been around for as long as I know.
Length of service....I don't know.
I knew a young man who went to Mexico's Annapolis. He was treated like royalty....by most everybody. Being commisioned in Mexico is a really good job.
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I don't think I'd use "mandatory" to describe the military service obligation of Mexicans, Dennis. It is mandatory to qualify for many government
programs/benefits, but I don't think it's mandatory in the sense that you're considered a draft dodger if you don't serve. I have a friend who never
bothered serving, and I'm sure it's held him back way more than he'd care to admit.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajatripper
I don't think I'd use "mandatory" to describe the military service obligation of Mexicans, Dennis. It is mandatory to qualify for many government
programs/benefits, but I don't think it's mandatory in the sense that you're considered a draft dodger if you don't serve. I have a friend who never
bothered serving, and I'm sure it's held him back way more than he'd care to admit. |
Things have changed, Steve....changed a lot. The drug war has turned the military from Parade Marchers into Soldiers.
I don't know, but I'd bet that structure of Weekend Warriors in Mexico has become a lot more demanding. They must have ten divisions out there doing
road-block duty throughout the country.
Speaking of parades...I remember in the old days when the military would march in holiday parades right through the middle of town and hallf the
marching personel wouldn't even be in uniform. I just assumed they didn't have one.
Like I say....this has changed.
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This is my understanding of military service in Mexico.
This topic came up in conversation last night with the family.
This is the concensus of opinion.
Brief historical overview:
1- Years ago each 18 year old young man had two options, to attend weekly training on Saturdays in the designated military unit in their county, i.e.
in Constitution, Sta. Rosalia, La Paz. This was difficult for most men to make that weekly trek, so many chose their second option of becoming a
conscripted soldier.
2-a- Now it is required that each young man register for the draft in the month of November in their 18th year. They do this by reporting to their
regional military headquarters and submitting their personal documents such as their birth certificate, CURP card, drivers' license, passport--
whatever ID they have gets turned over to the military for one year. There is no weekly training program, but in that year they can be called up for
duty. If they are not called for duty they must return the following November to receive their "carta" which indicates they've served their legally
required duty. The military then, and only then, returns their ID.
2-b- At the age of 18 a young man can volunteer to be a conscripted soldier. At the end of his service he's issued the "carta".
3- To have this carta is of less importance now than it was in prior generations. Its usually not required document for obtaining a job; its not a
required document for obtaining a passport.
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
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