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kingrich
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Nookster there is no TIP(temp import permit) in Baja as in most of the rest of Mexico which is why they do not document your vehicle when getting your
FMM in Baja.
As long as you can keep current registration on vehicle for whatever country it is from and a current drivers license for the same we are fine.
Fly in and out and drive your vehicle. I for one have been pulled over several times and never asked for FMM. If they do then I flew down and someone
else had drove my vehicle...what are they going to do. Thats what the free trade agreement is about no TIP required.
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gnukid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alm
| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
The mexican laws affecting your outcome are Custom laws which inter-relate to Immigration laws and are in transition to be in effect on Nov 12th
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Could you elaborate, please? |
I'm no expert, just trying to figure these things out like yourselves. The laws affecting what plates and license are decided by Customs aka Aduana,
immigration laws affect the visa or entry permit requirements. The two components INM (immigration) + Aduana (customs) combine to make the rules to
determine requirements for foreign visitor owned vehicles. Revised laws will be in effect about 30 days after they were signed in, which was about Oct
12th so they come into effect about Nov 13th.
Of course, it seems like the laws are always changing and interpretation of the laws can change too, not sure why this is the case.
it's awkward that as of Nov 12th laws will change that may affect vehicles + visas for residents and visitors already in Baja.
A common question is whether Permanent Residents (non working vs working) may have USA plated vehicles on Baja after Nov 12th and may they have 1 or 2
vehicles per family. TBD
[Edited on 10-15-2012 by gnukid]
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kingrich
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Yeah it seems like it has always open to interpretation. Hope the new laws regarding vehicle ownership and residency in Baja will be more clear this
time.
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Alm
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In English annotations of the new law I couldn't find any major changes in FMM/tourist system. Which was what the OP asked - FMM and foreign plated
car. Tourists were not allowed to leave their cars before, it was just not enforced in Baja. Without a system like Banjercito this is difficult to
enforce. In Baja they don't even enter your plates on the FMM record. Adding plates to the record is easy, can be fixed any time and I doubt a new law
is needed for that. Just a minor change on the form. It will still require a financial motivation like Banjercito to make a tourist obey the law. But,
I don't hear anything official or unofficial about Banjercito coming to Baja.
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kingrich
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Things ever change I guess that will be the motivation for me to get a FM3 and pay the $150 renewal every year. I own property there and having a FM3
or FM2 was not a problem when I bought that either...not enforced. Push comes to shove will have to bite the bullet and get it and until then enjoy
what we have.
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gnukid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alm
In English annotations of the new law I couldn't find any major changes in FMM/tourist system. Which was what the OP asked - FMM and foreign plated
car. Tourists were not allowed to leave their cars before, it was just not enforced in Baja. Without a system like Banjercito this is difficult to
enforce. In Baja they don't even enter your plates on the FMM record. Adding plates to the record is easy, can be fixed any time and I doubt a new law
is needed for that. Just a minor change on the form. It will still require a financial motivation like Banjercito to make a tourist obey the law. But,
I don't hear anything official or unofficial about Banjercito coming to Baja. |
The OP asked about buying a Mexican Plated car with a US dl license and FMM... very different from simply having a us plated car.
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I bought and registered 2 rigs (vehicles) with BCS plates with only my Alaska Driver's License. In Loreto in the last 6 years.
No problem.
No one even asked to see my FMM, FM3 or FM2.
They were happy to register them for me and take my money.
Also, I got a Mexican Driver's license last December here in Lopez Mateos and no one asked to see my FMM, FM3 or FM2.
I have one truck with South Dakota plate,
2 with BCS plates and 2 with ONAPAFA.
And have never had any problems with anyone over anything - as long as the registrations are current and you have a Driver's License of some type.
The South Dakota plated truck we used for the occasional trip to the border.
You are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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Nookster
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Thanks everyone for all the good info. It turned out to be a great thread with lots of information thats going to be helpful to me as well as others
who may have had the same type of questions.
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The only requirement for a mexican DL is a a proof of blood type (blood test) and to be of age and have a valid ID. The actual process is different in
different parts of mexico, where in some cases the dl is for life and in others for a set period. It's not very expensive either. So if you need the
Mexican DL to drive a mexican plated vehicle go get the license usually people line up near the transito office in La Paz. Of course there will be a
requirement for photos too and probably a utility bill to prove the address.
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Alm
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| Quote: | | Originally posted by gnukidSo if you need the Mexican DL to drive a mexican plated vehicle go get the license usually people line up near the
transito office in La Paz. Of course there will be a requirement for photos too and probably a utility bill to prove the address.
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I think a permanent address for a tourist is about same legal as those Dakota plates renewed every year with FMM and US license. If it comes to any
serious investigation, like insurance accident for example, a tourist with Mex DL will look very very interesting.
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When you have a serious accident you remain in custody until the identified individual with financial responsibility is established and funds are in
place, typically. An insurance policy would cover you and the adjuster comes to meet you at the jail/court.
A Mexican plated car and Mexican DL would require a Mexican based policy typically a liability only policy runs about 850-1000 pesos yr.
[Edited on 10-15-2012 by gnukid]
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Alm
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
When you have a serious accident you remain in custody until the identified individual with financial responsibility is established and funds are in
place, typically. An insurance policy would cover you and the adjuster comes to meet you at the jail/court. |
Didn't have to go through this yet, thanks God. But, from what people reported, insurance adjuster often comes to the place of accident and then you
don't go to jail. That is, if you have a Mex liability insurance. If you don't have it, you go to jail until they sort things out, no matter whether
your plates are Mexican or US.
There is no clear picture on what happens if you do have a Mex insurance but also have some er... inconsistencies  in your papers, like Mex plates and valid FMM status, or US plates and expired FMM visa, or no visa at all. Insurer
will take your money and sell you the policy, yes, but they can easily deny your claim if they find something funny in your papers like above.
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