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Retireded
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dirt bike crossing border
I have been offered a motocross bike and am thinking of taking it to Baja when I go at the end of this month. Anyone know what documentation is
required at the border?
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DanO
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Current registration is required.
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Sweetwater
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I've run 3 moto trips to La Paz over the past 2 years. I've never been asked for any documentation on my moto but have been asked for my FMM/FMT
multiple times.
That said, all bikes have been street legal in my home state, registration, plated and then insurance through Baja Bound.
Not much serious checking when heading south at the military posts except for Guerrero Negro. Coming north has always been a different story, they're
much more interested.....
[Edited on 10-16-2012 by Sweetwater]
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Retireded
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Thanks for the replies. The bike I'm considering is strictly off road, no lights, etc. and would be carried on a rack on the back of my travel
trailer. I'm guessing I'll need to get off-road registration before the trip.
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Sweetwater
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Retireded
Thanks for the replies. The bike I'm considering is strictly off road, no lights, etc. and would be carried on a rack on the back of my travel
trailer. I'm guessing I'll need to get off-road registration before the trip. |
I think that's a different category then.....get your ORV sticker in your home state and look into the insurance factor....IMHO....
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DanO
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Retireded
Thanks for the replies. The bike I'm considering is strictly off road, no lights, etc. and would be carried on a rack on the back of my travel
trailer. I'm guessing I'll need to get off-road registration before the trip. |
Correct. Having bikes in the back of my pickup has always resulted in a trip to Mexican secondary when crossing the border (regardless of whether
I've gotten a green or a red light), and they have always asked to see the registration. Most of the time they have actually compared the VINs on the
bikes to the registration. It might just be me, but better safe than sorry.
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motoged
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You need proof of ownership at least. Not all dirt bikes are "registered" w/ motor vehicles or w/ green stickers, or insurance....
Just have paper that proves it is your bike.
Don't believe everything you think....
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"Most" states will issue a title or "pink slip" on an ORV without a registration or sticker.
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rts551
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You need proof of ownership which is what the registration does. For our race bike we show the title. Factory teams show a notarized letter from the
factory/agency.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
You need proof of ownership which is what the registration does. For our race bike we show the title. Factory teams show a notarized letter from the
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To the best of my knowledge, registration does not show "proof of owership". In DMV/law eforcement circles, a title is the ownership document.
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willardguy
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registration will suffice, otherwise you couldn't take your financed bike, car or boat across the border, right???
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As there seems to be various "opinions" here, why not ask the border officials ?
Don't believe everything you think....
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Registration vs Title
I believe the instant question is proof of ownership..........Registration allows the operation of a (motor) vehicle, Title prooves ownership.
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Tbone
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Must have registration
A couple of years ago I tried to cross at San Ysidro with 2 dirt bikes in the bed of my truck. Got sent through secendary where I had pink slips but
not registrations, the bikes had never been registered. They wanted registrations only the pinks were worthless as far as they were concerened. They
opened the fence to the outgoing traffic and gave us the boot.
[Edited on 10-17-2012 by Tbone]
Mas Pacifico
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
You need proof of ownership which is what the registration does. For our race bike we show the title. Factory teams show a notarized letter from the
factory/agency. |
To the best of my knowledge, registration does not show "proof of owership". In DMV/law eforcement circles, a title is the ownership document.
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Yes, But I believe we are talking about proff of ownership to bring the item into Mexico, not DMV/US law enforcement.
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Tbone
Must have registration
A couple of years ago I tried to cross at San Ysidro with 2 dirt bikes in the bed of my truck. Got sent through secendary where I had pink slips but
not registrations, the bikes had never been registered. They wanted registrations only the pinks were worthless as far as they were concerened. They
opened the fence to the outgoing traffic and gave us the boot.
[Edited on 10-17-2012 by Tbone] |
Interesting, since a title has always worked for us. Our ATV's do not have a registration since we have what is called "title only" for the race
bikes.
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I brought a Kawasaki UTV across at TJ a couple of weeks ago, I had the MSO (manufactures statement of origin) and a bill of sale from the dealer. The
guy looked it over and waved me on. We bring dirt bikes over all the time without registration but always have a title or something proving ownership
and have never had a problem. That said, be aware that the rules in MX are always a moving target and subject to interpretation...
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
| Quote: | Originally posted by Tbone
Must have registration
A couple of years ago I tried to cross at San Ysidro with 2 dirt bikes in the bed of my truck. Got sent through secendary where I had pink slips but
not registrations, the bikes had never been registered. They wanted registrations only the pinks were worthless as far as they were concerened. They
opened the fence to the outgoing traffic and gave us the boot.
[Edited on 10-17-2012 by Tbone] |
Interesting, since a title has always worked for us. Our ATV's do not have a registration since we have what is called "title only" for the race
bikes. |
Same thing with 1 of our bikes, title only since it was raced on motocross tracks. I explained all of this and they wern't having any of it. We had
about everyone who worked in secondary involved and still got the boot. I would not attempt crossing again without a regestration. In California you
can register a race bike, you do not have to, but you can and I would just to bring them to Mexico.
Mas Pacifico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Tbone
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
| Quote: | Originally posted by Tbone
Must have registration
A couple of years ago I tried to cross at San Ysidro with 2 dirt bikes in the bed of my truck. Got sent through secendary where I had pink slips but
not registrations, the bikes had never been registered. They wanted registrations only the pinks were worthless as far as they were concerened. They
opened the fence to the outgoing traffic and gave us the boot.
[Edited on 10-17-2012 by Tbone] |
Interesting, since a title has always worked for us. Our ATV's do not have a registration since we have what is called "title only" for the race
bikes. |
Same thing with 1 of our bikes, title only since it was raced on motocross tracks. I explained all of this and they wern't having any of it. We had
about everyone who worked in secondary involved and still got the boot. I would not attempt crossing again without a regestration. In California you
can register a race bike, you do not have to, but you can and I would just to bring them to Mexico. |
Yuuup!! Take your Registration !!!
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My dirtbike is not registered , has no plates, and never has !
I have only carried proof of ownership (title) and have had no hassles. Tecate and Mexicali crossings....I stay way from the Tijuana mess.
Most of us don't race, are not factory sponsored, and only have proof of ownership for dirtbikes.
This is not really a complicated issue.
And as DT sez....he got through....but who is going to argue with a guy who looks like this guy???
Okay....maybe Shari will smack him around a bit 
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