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Jaybo
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7 day Road trip to Cabo - Flying back
OK, Looks like the plan is coming together. We have an opportunity to drive a friends Jeep Laredo down to San Jose Del Cabo in February. It will take
us 2 days to get to the border and then we will have 6-7 days to get to their place. We want to spend a day or 2 in the Mulege area and someplace on
the Pacific side too but not sure where. Since we are not in a big hurry, we are open to some suggestions.
We would leave Friday Feb 15th from Oregon and be at the border to cross either Saturday afternoon-ish or possibly Sunday Morning- Which would be
better? We have friends in Santee CA. or we may just get a hotel close to the border. Which border crossing should we take?
The Jeep will be in another persons name so I am assuming some sort of notarized permission slip of some sort? Insurance of course, The owner of the
vehicle lives in SJDC and operates a vacation villa so they are familiar with it, but I'll ask you guys too 
What should we see on the way down? We will likely hotel it or maybe B&B so camping isn't likely. I think we will stay mostly on the hwy, but it
might be cool to see Mikes Sky or Coco's after reading about them for so many years. BOLA and Mulege area I really want to see, as well as Loreto.
We have checked out La Paz on earlier trips.
Free beer if you have some good ideas (if you happen to be on the way...) for us
..Jay
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David K
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Hi Jay... Sounds like a fun trip!
Coco's Corner is 13 miles from Hwy. 1 on a rough graded road... I would say if you go there then go on to Bahia San Luis Gonzaga, 22 more miles. There
is a motel/ bar/ restaurant on the beach at Alfonsina's (turn right at the Pemex station). Camping at Beluga, a couple miles south of Alfonsina's.
L.A. Bay is special and you can get a lot of info on Mia's web site: http://www.bahiadelosangeles.info on what's there and the many motels and campgrounds.
Leaving L.A. Bay you can go out via San Borja Mission (1762-1818) and tour the furthest north stone mission in Old Califrornia as well as rock art
sites (Montevideo) and reach Hwy. 1 at Nuevo Rosarito.
OR go south maybe see Punta San Francisquito and Mission Santa Gertrudis, or the big cave art site near El Arco and the ghost town of Pozo Aleman.
On the Pacific, and now reached by paved road from Vizcaino, is Bahia Asuncion and Shari's bed and breakfast called La Bufadora Inn http://www.bahiaasuncion.com Even if you don't go fishing, there are other activities galore!
As you near the oasis mission village of San Ignacio, do take the short side paved road into the town plaza and see the giant stone mission, founded
in 1728 and constructed over the next 50 years.
There is really so much to see and do in Baja... you could spend the rest of your life and still not see it all!
See photos of many of the sites in the links below...
Have a blast!
[Edited on 12-10-2012 by David K]
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Jaybo
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David, Ooo good idea on Shari's .. I'll have to look at that more as well. Some day it would be nice to live down there as well, at least for part
of the year. Just not sure exactly where so a little early scouting will be fun
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willardguy
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hey jaybo, being from NW oregon there's nothing thats gonna impress you up at mike's and coco's is really nothing but bland desert with a bunch of
beer cans on a fence. if you want to scout out a future home site, id pay particular attention to the pacific side,weather you can enjoy year round.
now of course this is only my opinion, and im sure not shared with everyone!
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tiotomasbcs
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Todos Santos is beautiful in the winter. Cold nites and warm days. Plenty to do and lots of good food! Buen Viaje. Tio
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Jaybo
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Willard - Oh I love the beauty of the desert, but it's more about saying I've been there after hearing all the stories. Continuing on to Gonzaga
might be fun too If we ever get the chance to live down there it will likely be
renting part of the year and spend summers in Oregon. I'm thinking I should take a peek at San Quentin too, although what I have seen of the Mulege
area that looks great too.
Toi - We've been to TS on day trips before (we have a friend that lives in SJDC) and have browsed the art galleries but did not see much else to do
there ..
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honda tom
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From BOLA head south on gulf. Take the dirt road and meet HWY at Viscaino. Its a fun dirt road with a few cool sights (beach at san rafael, san
francisquito, some cool ranchos, and the mine at el pozo). You will make mulege that same day, or spend that afternoon and night at San Ignacio.
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desertcpl
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you might keep in mind that COCO might not be there, he has health issues and I think he is making plans on going to Ensenada
but the drive is worth it, inter MX at Mexicali and head to San Felipe and then on south to Gonzaga Bay, just some thing Magical about it, then LA
bay is a must see on the way down
, Mulege, Loreto, San Quinten
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MMc
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Jaybo, assuming the idea is to take your friends jeep to them with as little a drama possible and have some fun doing so. Stay off the long dirt roads
on the Sea of Cortez, they are very cool but hard on autos. They are remote, it's not your car, you don't know it's history. Save them for another
trip.
February + Whales = FUN. They should around by then and well worth the trip. Plenty of info. on Nomads.
If your looking for a future place to hang a hat, make the drive from Bahia Asuncion to Punta Abaeojos, and back out to the highway. Plenty of places
to stay, roads are pretty good. Great place to check out.
A interesting drive is from Villa Insurgentes to La Prisima to San Juanico. La Prisima is older then most cities in the Califorinas. Aqua ducts that
were built as part of the mission systems. San Juanico has good fishing. Gringos are all over this place.
I hope you have a fun trip.
Cross at San Ysidro it's fast and easy.
If you see Coco you'll miss S Q.
[Edited on 12-11-2012 by MMc]
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
you might keep in mind that COCO might not be there, he has health issues and I think he is making plans on going to Ensenada
but the drive is worth it, inter MX at Mexicali and head to San Felipe and then on south to Gonzaga Bay, just some thing Magical about it, then LA
bay is a must see on the way down
, Mulege, Loreto, San Quinten |
This is a far better route south, and shorter too (from the border)... only one city and one easy town to drive through instead of 3 cities and
several towns and farms. If you were going to Gonzaga you greatly reduce the dirt driving miles (round trip from Chapala on Hwy. 1 is 70 miles vs. one
way from the end of pavement of 45 miles).  
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MMc
Jaybo, assuming the idea is to take your friends jeep to them with as little a drama possible and have some fun doing so. Stay off the long dirt roads
on the Sea of Cortez, they are very cool but hard on autos. They are remote, it's not your car, you don't know it's history. Save them for another
trip.
February + Whales = FUN. They should around by then and well worth the trip. Plenty of info. on Nomads.
If your looking for a future place to hang a hat, make the drive from Bahia Asuncion to Punta Abaeojos, and back out to the highway. Plenty of places
to stay, roads are pretty good. Great place to check out.
A interesting drive is from Villa Insurgentes to La Prisima to San Juanico. La Prisima is older then most cities in the Califorinas. Aqua ducts that
were built as part of the mission systems. San Juanico has good fishing. Gringos are all over this place.
I hope you have a fun trip.
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Baja has lots of options and that is what is fun about it! You can do the whale thing no matter which road you take south (Mex 1 or Mex 5) and there
are three whale watch lagoons (Scammons, San Ignacio, Magdalena).
Asuncion to Abreojos is more dirt road miles than Hwy. 5 to Chapala... and to help him find more on info it, the town name is La Purisima.
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MMc
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"Long dirt roads on the Sea of Cortez"
"From BOLA head south on gulf. Take the dirt road and meet HWY at Viscaino. Its a fun dirt road with a few cool sights (beach at san rafael, san
francisquito, some cool ranchos, and the mine at el pozo). You will make mulege that same day, or spend that afternoon and night at San Ignacio."
Might be considered long in a unfamiliar rig.
The road along the west coast of the spur is usually better then Hwy 5 dirt.
It's been 8 months for my last trip to Gonzaga so I don't know the road conditions.
The road from Punta Abaeojos north is just fine, passable in anything.
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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Jaybo
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Wow, So much information to process! So it is worth the time to drive East on I-8 to Mexicali and drive down from there? I'm already thinking of
scratching Coco's and Mikes and head to Gonzaga - I need to get out my Baja atlas and figure it out better - And read some trip reports and of
course DK's excellent maps .. Research is part of the fun, Right
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Jaybo
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Is there any PC software for route planning? I have used Streets and trips for US stuff does not look like they have Mexico maps ...
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Bajahowodd
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Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see where the Jeep Was 4wd. In that case, I would shy away from dirt roads.
Your timing will be excellent to play with the whales. Once you get to Guerrero Negro, consider staying at one of several that offer whale excursions.
Last year, we had a wonderful adventure staying at and using Los Caracoles. A really nice young man named Waldo drove us out in the early morning and
we had amazing Play with the whales. Also was fortunate to meet Shari there.
So much to see and do all along Baja. Disfruta!
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MMc
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There are plenty of GPS software maps that have been discussed here, try a search.
David's maps are plagiarized from mostly AAA and the Baja California Atlas. He seems to have a large collection of Baja related prints and copies it
at will. I if was my copy rite he'd get a letter from IP lawyer.
The AAA maps are free it your a member the Atlas is available at a premium. When they update it, is the time to buy.
Missed that you have a atlas, you are set my man!!!!
Try google maps put in the city near by and where you want to go kinda fun.
[Edited on 12-13-2012 by MMc]
[Edited on 12-13-2012 by MMc]
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David K
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Posted for educational purposes, not for resale, sources always provided. Usually old, out of print ones, at that.
Now, I can show you a lot of businesses that use maps without permission to help them make money.
Sorry you are against us on Nomad helping the people of Baja by taking the fear out of going there, so money can get south, which is my intention. I
do not make money helping people have a fulfilling Baja trip. There are no ads on my Viva Baja website... all for the love of helping others.
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willardguy
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is 12/12/12 screw with david day?  
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MMc
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David, How about I post your book online and not make anything on it. It might effect your sales? You might come after me? You would be justified to
do so . Intellectual property, is the property of the owner and without permission it is wrong to use at all. Profiting from it just means a larger
claim.
This is one of the few places that David gets to shine but in doing so helps kill Baja.IMHO. Why not point somebody in a direction and let them
discover their own little piece of paradise.
My issue with David isn't new. His need to look good and be the guy, outweighs anything else in his world. Just to much information on to public
place.
(sorry for the hijack)
Jay wanted to see something new and explore a new bit of Baja I hope he does so, and finds a place to consider settling. 
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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Jaybo
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yeah, Sorry MMc, bashing DK for promoting Baja and encouraging people to visit is really best saved for another forum. Sorry you don't like him, but
using maps that are usually out of date and drawn in by him to show us where the beauty is lurking is a great service to us nomads. Do you have
permission to quote the Great W.C. Fields in every single post?
Thanks for the tips and well wishes though, it all helps!
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