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| Is Loreto Bay Company Closing Popular Beach Access? 
 
 Is public access to a Nopolo beach adjacent to the El Camino Real Hotel is being closed by the Loreto Bay Company? The beach includes public parking
and public shade palapas, as well as access to scenic Punta Nopolo. Loreto Bay is now showing lots adjoining the hotel. The access road is straddled
by at least one lot, and chalk lines and staked string now block the road. The combination of the golf course, the hotel, and now the Loreto Bay
development apparently will form a seamless barrier to the public.
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| wilderone 
 
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 Gee, what a surprise.  Certainly don't want any Mexicans on the beach.
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| jrbaja 
 
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| I doubt that 
 
 the Mexicans will want to be on that beach anymore.  Same with anyone else in their right minds!
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| Skeet/Loreto 
 
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| Same thing now in front of Rancho Sonrisa 
 
 The same has happened North of Loreto in Front of Rancho sonrisa, However it was done  to keep the Vehicles Off. When I was there a couple of Months
ago the mexicano people are still fishing and using the Beach, just not Driving.
 
 Too Bad.
 
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| Dave 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto the mexicano people are still fishing and using the Beach, just not Driving.
 
 Too Bad.
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 Why "too bad"? It is the law. Fact is, it is their law.
 
 Weren't you a law enforcement officer? Why should you find it disappointing that people obey the law?
 
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| jrbaja 
 
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| Because Dave 
 
 Seeing Baja the way it was  before the gringos started imposing their ways, including driving on the beach was a part of Baja that many of us enjoyed.
 I'm sure there are some that prefer their enclaves and have never experienced the "flavor" of Baja past but it used to be a pretty rugged and "free"
kind of place.
 You know, like the u.s. advertises
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| Skeet/Loreto 
 
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 It belongs to the Mexican People, except if you are Rich American and want the Beach closed so you do not have to look at the working Fisherman and
their Families.
 Yes I like it better the Ole way.
 
 Skeet/Loreto
 
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| Dave 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by jrbaja Seeing Baja the way it was  before the gringos started imposing their ways, including driving on the beach was a part of Baja that many of us enjoyed.
 I'm sure there are some that prefer their enclaves and have never experienced the "flavor" of Baja past but it used to be a pretty rugged and "free"
kind of place.
 You know, like the u.s. advertises
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 Right, "Free". Save the BS for the families of the two kids who were killed last month on the Rosarito beach.
   
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| jrbaja 
 
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| Not exactly BS Dave 
 
 And like I said, the way it used to be before the pinheads, gringos, whomever it is that are acting like idiots in plenty of places here.
 Obviously you missed out on the more remote areas and how Baja used to be back when it was Mexican instead of a bunch of complaining foreigners
trying to turn it into lost angeles.  Too bad!
 I also realize that these laws are definitely needed now that the majority of gringos seem to be lacking in common sense just like in the u.s.
 
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 Re: Driving on the beach
 
 Actually, in regards to the specific stretch of beach north of Loreto that Skeet mentions...when they recently put in the barriers, they made two of
them too far apart. Far enough apart for a pickup to pass between, lol.
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 You think the law against driving on the beach is new and designed specifically for Gringos?
 
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| jrbaja 
 
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| Absolutely correct 
 
 I just don't think there was such a lack of common sense then, no matter where it wasn't or who didn't have it, at least they stayed at home without
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| No Dave 
 
 The laws of Mexico have been on the Books for years. The Hotel Oasis received a Concession many years ago as well as the La Pinta{El Presidente to us
Ole folks}. there was not any enforcement of the law until such time as the outsides came in andstarted to exercise their Money Authority.
 
 Dave, you should really go down South of Loreto and you could learn what Baja is all About. You are missing out.
 
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| Beach Front 
 
 Seen this happen in P V , Punta Mita village was bought out  and relocated by the Japanese. They built a big resort and golf course. Then tried to
stop people from using the beach with guards but it didn't work as it is federal land and the locals know this..
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| jrbaja 
 
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| And 
 
 running over each other!  I erased the laughing smileys out of respect for the families but really, living in Rosarito and traveling all over Baja,
this is so common I am not even surprised anymore.
 Caused by alcohol, lack of experience, or weight to control whatever atv they happen to be riding and most importantly, stupidity or a lack of
common sense.  Every time!
 The locals who drive on the beach are not doing it to have fun, they are launching boats, picking up catches, making repairs.  They have common
sense.
 Now, because of idiots, usually rich gringos or canadians, there are laws being enforced to stop the locals from doing this.
 While the P-nche gringos don't care about a fine because they can afford to pay it and they are having too much fun.
 Who does this law benefit? The Mexicans?  Hardly Amigo!!
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