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thebajarunner
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Did you notice. No pix of town?
Great water
Great desert
Grungy town
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captkw
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David K
Your right,,both times Ive been there where early spring and Strong relentless wind...Myslf have no interest for summer..Thats time for more northern
Lats.....K&T
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David K
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Driving into town, from the south:
Stupid divided street makes us do a U-Turn to get to China's (Cheeena) taco stand:
Just north of the Las Hamacas:
Next door to this Internet & market place Lizeth:
There's China!
Note the got baja? sticker, lower left... 
[Edited on 12-27-2012 by David K]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by thebajarunner
Rude? A realist!
Dennis is spot on! Wise words.
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Thanks for that, Dick. I appreciate it.
My concern was, and still is, that it seems like the Nomad spirit was missing in the responses to someone saying he was contemplating a land purchase
down there, while seemingly navigating in the dark on realestate dealings in Mexico. These old time residents of LA Bay can't be uninformed to this
as well as having opinions about the local selling the land, but they remained silent.
Not that far back here, the board would have been innundated with warnings concerning land purchases and the hazards then still exist today.
I just found it strange that those in the know wouldn't address this issue.
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larryC
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Dennis
There did not seem to be a reason to lecture the man on buying property in Mex. He lives in the Enenada area now. He asked for input on the LA bay
area. "I'm looking for general info about the area, What to expect if I move there, etc." ( a quote rom his first post) So most of us LA Bayers told
him what he wanted to hear. If he wants advice on buying property I suspect he'll ask for it.
Larry
Off grid, 12-190 watt evergreen solar panels on solar trackers, 2-3648 stacked Outback inverters, 610ah LiFePo4 48v battery bank, FM 60 and MX60
Outback charge controllers, X-240 Outback transformer for 240v from inverters, 6500 watt Kubota diesel generator.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by larryC
Dennis
There did not seem to be a reason to lecture the man on buying property in Mex. He lives in the Enenada area now. |
He just recently moved there, Larry. He's a greenhorn Noobie.
These are his statements:
"I have been offered the opportunity to buy a piece of land there, semi improved, for what seems a very reasonable price."
"I know the current owners somewhat as I currently rent from them and they are really nice folks."
If these arn't cries for help of a more than basic Chamber of Commerce variety, then I'm deluded.
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desertcpl
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lobsterman
LA Bay is one of my favorite locations to fish in baja. The fish are abundant and delicious to eat. The weather changes are sudden and dramatic,
i.e. beautiful one minute and 50 mph winds the next. We were lucky to get back alive once under those conditions. The blowing dust from the winds is
a definate problem. It gets everywhere.
I had planned on leasing a home there once I retired a few years back before the current crime wave that is affecting most of baja. You use to be able
to camp out on lonely beaches without fear or leave your possessions unguarded. Those days are gone forever. My guess it's the drug use of the
locals and the cartels that has caused a major decrease from visitors from NOB, thus a poorer needy population. So do not bring and leave anything in
baja that you want to keep. Everything left behind must be expendable.
It's been 5 years since I've ventured south from San Diego. I have plans to re-kindle my baja fishing adventures again before I get too old to do
them. LA Bay is on the short list for a return probably late spring before I forget my favorite fishing holes. I found the town quite adequate for
anything you might need and less than a 16 hour drive from the border. Since I'm not too fond of the attitudes and philosophies of most NOB people, I
like the solitude and peace and quiet you find there without them.
Here's a expose' on my last fishing trip there from 2007.
http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/baja-mexico-fishing-reports...
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very well said, you put it into perspective
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Hook
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Well, it's been more than a few years since I've been there. It was still on the diesel genny AND THAT BUTT UGLY MEDIAN THROUGH TOWN WASNT THERE!!!
But the Pemex stations had re-opened, after a lengthy absence from town.
What were they thinking with that median?
Oh yeah, more money for the contractor...... 
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Retireded
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BoLA
I do not think any of the responses I have received are in any way inappropriate. I asked for input, any and all, in order to better educate myself
as to what I may get into if I proceed to attempt to purchase this property, and ALL of the responses I've gotten have been helpful. I have not felt
anyone over or under encouraging with the responses, but rather offering what advice and info they have to share. I thank you, one and all for
sharing so freely, and am very thankful to the folks who steered me to this site. I was told that this site is a great source of info, and after
being on here for a few months, I have found that to be true. I could not have asked to be introduced to a better bunch of people. I hope, in time,
I will be able to offer the same help to other newbies.
After reading all the responses I have gotten, I have decided a purchase in that area is not in our best interest, and will probably just keep my eyes
open for something affordable in this area. I may just continue to rent right here where we are as it is quite comfortabel and affordable, and spend
what time we can traveling and seeing as much of the rest of this beautiful place as we can. Thank you, one and all, and I look forward to meeting
you all in time.
Retired Ed
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805gregg
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I just read a moto ride report from a couple that stayed there with a couple that lived there, all is not good in paradise. The Bof LA couple told the
moto rider that there was rampant drug abuse (speed) so also rampant theft to suport the habit. Rent don't buy in Baja, drugs are even in all the
small towns. I saw my friends buy pot and coke in a very small town right across from the military post. It's actually easier for the drug cartels to
sell drugs in Mexico.
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woody with a view
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 805gregg
I just read a moto ride report from a couple that stayed there with a couple that lived there, all is not good in paradise. The Bof LA couple told the
moto rider that there was rampant drug abuse (speed) so also rampant theft to suport the habit. Rent don't buy in Baja, drugs are even in all the
small towns. I saw my friends buy pot and coke in a very small town right across from the military post.
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BS! i'm not saying there isn't speed freaks everywhere, but post up a link to your source! someone told a guy something and now it's gospel.....
moroon! if you can't look out for yourselves don't leave the comfort of your dungeon!
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805gregg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
| Quote: | Originally posted by 805gregg
I just read a moto ride report from a couple that stayed there with a couple that lived there, all is not good in paradise. The Bof LA couple told the
moto rider that there was rampant drug abuse (speed) so also rampant theft to suport the habit. Rent don't buy in Baja, drugs are even in all the
small towns. I saw my friends buy pot and coke in a very small town right across from the military post.
[Edited on 12-28-2012 by 805gregg] |
BS! i'm not saying there isn't speed freaks everywhere, but post up a link to your source! someone told a guy something and now it's gospel.....
moroon! if you can't look out for yourselves don't leave the comfort of your dungeon! |
Link is ADVriders, forum ride reports, ride report by "We quit our jobs sold our house and went riding" they are in Baja now in La Paz, they just left
BofLA and the people they stayed with are in pictures. . Start on page 14 with post #549. Check it out and get your head out of the sand. Why are you
calling me names, I didn't write the report or say anything about B of LA, just passing on what the people that live there said. The exact quote from
Dan that lives there is " not all is paradise, there's a large drug problem in town and as aresult rampant property theft from the tweekers to suport
their crystal meth habit" Not my words , it was Ken that lives there , but I'm sure you know better than him from OB. I was in Eredira on my
motorcycle a few years ago, camping in the sand in front Coyote Cals, the owner warned me to not leave anything in my tent or on my moto, because of
the theiving drug using locals. True heard from the owner's mouth to my ears. I expect an apology from you Woody, are you man enough? Gregg
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baitcast
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Love the shots of town,hey what more could a guy ask for,the hotter it gets the better the fishing and thats a fact,Gonzaga and BOLA luv them both!!
Rob
Anyone can catch fish in a boat but only \"El Pescador Grande\" can get them from the beach.
I hope when my time comes the old man will let me bring my rod and the water will be warm and clear.
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woody with a view
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Gregg, all i'm saying is post up a link. maybe copy and past the address from page 15. why should i have to dig to verify your story? and in the
spirit of men everywhere, i'm sorry if i offended you....
  happy new year!
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Pescador
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I love how the reports and information get generated but they almost always have some small connection to the truth. I was told the same thing by a
lot of people about how theft was rampant and you had to be really careful after dark because the tweakers were rampant and everywhere. I have lived
in a small fishing village for over 5 years and I have come to know the people who are using drugs, it is common knowledge and readily available if
you just learn to speak the language and talk to the locals. I am a little more diligent about making sure the doors to my storage buildings are
locked and in 5 years have only lost a small amount of money from a guy who played the game and looked like an upstanding citizen and one real idiot
who broke into a lot of houses and managed to steal a couple of fishing poles that we used for bait rods. So that was like going to school and paying
a little tuition.
I find the pleasures of living in a small town far outweigh the conveniences available in larger towns and prefer the transquility over the bustle
of the city. I can get excited about spending a few days in La Paz but am always very relieved to get home.
Because of the small size of the town, I find that I know most of the people and they have come to know me. I am able to follow the families and
their losses as well as their achievements. Most have learned that I am not a "rich gringo handout" but that I can be counted on to help repair
fishing tackle, fix a few things, and generally share in what goes on in the village.
For me, the fishing was a very important part of where I wanted to spend my retirement and greatly added to my choice of locations. We spent the
better part of 10 years traveling all over the Baja before finally settling in on a location that was the best compromise. And, rest assured,
everywhere is a compromise but if you figure out what is most important to you personally, then it is fairly easy to find a workable solution. For
example, we have a poorly developed health care system in our area, so I have no illusions that treatment here is every going to match what is
available in La Paz or Ensenada / Tijuana, but I am not interested in living in either of those areas, so instead, I keep an evacuation policy that
can be used at my discretion if the need should arise.
But I actually like all the hearsay and rumors that fly and oftentimes give that information to newcomers who show an interest in settling in this
area. It kinda keeps out the people who truly don't belong here anyway.
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Martyman
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 805gregg
I just read a moto ride report from a couple that stayed there with a couple that lived there, all is not good in paradise. The Bof LA couple told the
moto rider that there was rampant drug abuse (speed) so also rampant theft to suport the habit. Rent don't buy in Baja, drugs are even in all the
small towns. I saw my friends buy pot and coke in a very small town right across from the military post. It's actually easier for the drug cartels to
sell drugs in Mexico.
[Edited on 12-28-2012 by 805gregg]
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So...just ask anyone near a military post and I can score too. Do they have 'shrooms?
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