Originally posted by DENNIS
Who in this world could possibly care about the genetics of gaiety except those with a direct connection to it.
I guess that would be me Dennis. Though I am a raging hetero myself I believe that this is the last great Civil Rights Issue in the USofA. I am not
black yet I stood for Civil Rights. I stand for the Civil Rights of Women to be paid equally for their work. I have stood against the prejudices of
Americans against Mexican and Asian minorities. I guess that's just how I roll.
I also stand with those who are trying to help. I started this thread to see if there was a particular group in Mexico that helped LGBT youth so that
they might receive some financial assistance. It turns out that I was also able to help a Nomad who is alone and struggling with some of the issues
addressed here.
I also think that is is naive to assume that there were no Gays or Lesbians that played a role in the development of Baja.
I also think it is arrogant, ignorant and dangerous to dismiss science with prejudice and vitriol.
I appreciate those who have helped me answer the question I posed about GSA's in Baja/Mexico and others who have contributed thoughtful responses to
this thread.
Originally posted by shari
I have met heterosexual women who changed teams as a result of the "acquired taste" theory...they just got fed up with dirty socks in the corner and
doing all the work....hmmmm.
Originally posted by Iflyfish
I also think that is is naive to assume that there were no Gays or Lesbians that played a role in the development of Baja.
I agree with that. The difference I see is that they didn't parade up and down the Camino Real dressed in purple jockstraps forcing their
preferrences on the rest of their secluded world. I'm sick of seeing or hearing about that which some in the gay world seem to think I'm required to
know.
By the way....is this a Civil Rights issue? Where in the Bill of Rights is gay love addressed?
They [all of them] are covered by protections of privacy, but that doesn't seem to be of interest to some of them.
They should be able to conduct themselves in all law abiding manners, but that doesn't include forcing a mandate of mainstream acceptance. That, to
me, is an invasion of MY privacy, and I won't accept it.
Please....no more news footage of Gus and Homer kissing on the front steps of the court house. It is so overdone and boring.
And, Rick....you can quit professing your heterosexuality any time now. Don't worry....we get it. You're not gay, although you do seem to have an
inordinate concern for being mistaken as such.
Originally posted by DENNIS
Homosexuality is the aberration that defies the order of reproduction .
[Edited on 1-31-2013 by DENNIS]
So other non breeders (sterile straight people, those who choose not to have kids) would also be considered an aberration using this logic. Or am I
misrepresenting your argument?
I think so much of our views on homosexuality comes down to the years in which we're born.
Well, Rick, I've been busy packing etc. but a couple of times I've poked my head into this discussion, I've seen you refer to this issue as the last
great social issue of our time. I very much disagree. There are far more gay people out of the closet than there are atheists. And, atheists are MUCH
more hated and mistrusted than homosexuals. The amount of bigotry commonly and mindlessly heaped on those who choose not to worship any of the gods is
a growing problem in the USA.
There is a huge movement in America to eliminate the last of the 1st. Amendment separation of church from the state. In six states it is still illegal
for an atheist to serve on a jury. Why? Being the scum they judge us to be, we would just lie. This is something a Christian would NEVER do under
oath. (we all KNOW that.)
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
Originally posted by Ateo
So other non breeders (sterile straight people, those who choose not to have kids) would also be considered an aberration using this logic. Or am I
misrepresenting your argument?
Not an aberration, but certainly not a participant in the propagation of the species.
Before someone else brings this up, non-breeders [sounds so ranchy] can be good parents in spite of their lack of progeny.
Originally posted by vgabndo
Well, Rick, I've been busy packing etc. but a couple of times I've poked my head into this discussion, I've seen you refer to this issue as the last
great social issue of our time. I very much disagree. There are far more gay people out of the closet than there are atheists. And, atheists are MUCH
more hated and mistrusted than homosexuals. The amount of bigotry commonly and mindlessly heaped on those who choose not to worship any of the gods is
a growing problem in the USA.
There is a huge movement in America to eliminate the last of the 1st. Amendment separation of church from the state. In six states it is still illegal
for an atheist to serve on a jury. Why? Being the scum they judge us to be, we would just lie. This is something a Christian would NEVER do under
oath. (we all KNOW that.)
Couldn't agree more vgabndo. Here's a little thing I wrote that I think you will find right on point!!
Nice article you wrote. I particularly like this one:
"They (Republicans) preach loudly and endlessly that they want government out of our lives, and in the same breath they tell us who we can marry, that
we can’t use birth control, and that abortions are forbidden".
Ok, I don't want to get too far off topic so I'll stop there. I'll add the word Baja to keep this sucker on topic. Baja -- I love it, and would
almost marry it if I could. Does that make me gay or is Baja a woman?
One of the arguments against allowing oneself to be described as an atheist is that we don't go around calling people who don't believe in Leprechauns
'aleprechaunists', or people who don't believe in fairies, 'afairieists'. So Mr. Bill, perhaps my beloved brothers who walk a little lighter in their
loafers COULD be a bit conflicted!
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
You are just saying that evolution is impossible? Next you are going to propose that talking snakes and parthanogenesis ARE possible, right? (I've
read your other posts.)
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
Nope. Not at all. Just saying that de-evolution is not possible by the definition of evolution. I don't need anyone to put the wrong words in my
mouth, I have that covered.
I stand corrected. De-evolution as I have heard it used is no way a reversal of natural selection, but a loose term meaning "the natural order of
things doesn't seem to have worked", or has been made un-workable. Can evolution 'go backwards'? Perhaps not, but it is clear that non-random
selection doesn't always come up with the best possible solution to the problem it is trying to fix.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen.
The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back
if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez
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