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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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Blanca you probably have a hive going up in the garage attic...observe where the bees are going and in the early morning where they are coming out
of...then ask the locals...you probably have a bee guy in the village who can move the hive for ya.
They love brazilian pepper trees...they are all over our trees but dont bother anyone beneath or near the tree...they so love the tree flowers.
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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If they are small and black they are of the hornet family. They leave a potent pheromone behind indicating an ideal place for a hive. Small as they
are, to me their sting is as nasty as a yellowjacket's. The hive in Michoacan I had to get rid of did not respond at all to light at night (a thousand
watt metal halide stadium fixture). With the lamp shining, I burned coconut husks to tranquilize them for two hours. Absolute dense smoke right into
the hive. Still got stung five times, Eduardo took more hits than I and the damned professional beekeeper did not get nailed once.
None of my abeja hives have reinas africanistas . Verified by box dis-assembly and verification by the beekeeper. I planted an acre of clover to help
keep the hives healthy and uncontaminated. More hives, smaller entrance to thwart killer bee invasions. I also planted a Mexican species of flower
from Yucatan to make the abeja de miel's sting more potent on advice of the beekeeper.
But those little hornets are a real pest when they select a new address.
[Edited on 2-23-2013 by DavidE]
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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ligui
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We had the same problem in ligui . We took our tiki torches we use at night and put them in the area where the bees kept coming and after awhile they
stopped coming back . 
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
I have found if you just try reasoning with them they will go away. =)
Just go out there and ask them what their problem is! Then with a crazed look in your eyes, start shouting, "you want a piece of me????!!!!???"
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Then invite them for dinner. Very tasty fried chrispy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2en4nvgFy-8
Bob Durrell
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monoloco
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Blanca, If they are going into a hole, there is a good chance they have a hive in your attic. Be very careful poking around there, if they seem
aggressive, they are probably Africanized, once one stings you the whole hive will be chemically attracted to do the same, sometimes with fatal
consequences.
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Russ
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Had them really bad around the humming bird feeders. I'd spray them and get back in the house until they massed around the feeder again. after two
days either they we all killed or the message was sent not to mess with that feeder.
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
How about, stick your hand into the hive, pluck out the queen and then run like hell?   |
Tony, since you are friend of Blanca's, I think you should volunteer to drive down and do this!
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Bob H
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Back in the 50's, my Dad would look for the hive and then put newspaper on the end of a broom stick, light it on fire, and burn them out !!
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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Islandbuilder
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Smoke doesn't repel them, it sooths them so they can be worked around.
I think that there is something in the garage that's attracting them. Have you noticed them going to any particular area? If so, it may be as simple
as moving the material, or cleaning up a spilled attractant. Bees will be drawn to sweet stuff, as will some wasps. Other wasps will be drawn to meat,
fish or blood.
The citronela in the tiki torches is a repelant, that's what is keeping them away, not the smoke. Seems like a good and affordable thing to experiment
with. There are citronela candles in little tin buckets that we'[ve used to keep yellow jackets away from outdoor activities. Not sure if you can find
those around La Bocana though.
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desertcpl
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I had a problem years ago in the back yard
the bees was every where and very agressive,
like Shari said look for them in the morning and evening when they leave and come back to the nest
in our case it was in the steps for our spa,, you would never think of that,, we called a exterminator to remove the nest, but they didnt do it right,
and they sent out the owner of the company, he took the steps apart and removed the honey comb and cleaned it real good and put chemicals down,, its
been quite awhile now and they havnt returned,
point is and others are saying,, they could very well have a nest some where in your garage or house they will work themselfs into a very tiny
opening
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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
How about, stick your hand into the hive, pluck out the queen and then run like hell? |
OMG Funny Tony!!!
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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Skipjack Joe
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When the temperatures rise in baja life gets really hard for the bees. That's my opinion. They become desperate to find water otherwise they perish.
They agressive pursue any object that's moist because their lives are at stake. Problems occur when people shoo them away because often there is no
other water source to go to and they need water now, not later.
The best way to not have a bee problem is to provide water at a location that's far enough to not bother you but close enough to compete for your
water source.
During the hot summer we have literally a mound of bees on our rear bumper by the icebox drainage tube. They fight amongst one another for the drops
that fall. They're so desperate that they climb into the tube and drown. I always know that when the icebox drain backs up it's time to suck out the
dead bees.
They often 'attack' people because they're attracted to the sweat from your body. To them it's a source of moisture. Again, the problems occur when
they seek the moister areas, feel trapped by the clothing, and sting you as you inadvertently press down on them.
Unlike those tarantula wasps I don't think the european bee is well adapted to the arid climates.
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1bobo
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If you do find the point of active entry & exit (hole, crack, whatever), prop the end of your shopvac up next to it, turn on the vacuum, and walk
away for a couple of hours. Every insect entering or leaving will be sucked in and the colony will collapse.
I also use my vac on paper wasps. They'll attack the end of the wand, but not me, and with an ABS pipe extension I can reach up under the 2nd story
eaves.
P.S. Don't empty the canister for a couple of days.
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Bob and Susan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBlanca
we have some bees that are insistent on trying to get into the garage which we normally leave open during the day.
The other day I was puttering around the garage and a bee flew in so I promptly thought, I can handle this. I grabbed a can of RAID and sprayed it.
Holy mackerel ! Within a minute, his gang members came raging into the garage. I had to run inside and close the door behind me not to get attacked.
You should have heard the buzzing !
So, peeps, what can we do to repell the bees so that they do not build a hive in our garage ????? |
clean the trash can and cover it...they like the smell
we have migrating bees once and a while...they come and go
they don't like our water since it's clorinated
they love the neigbors water...it's sweet
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Alan
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BajaBlanca,
From what you have described you have the potential of a very serious problem and I would recommend that you follow shari's advice and solicit the
help of a professional beekeeper or exterminator if necessary. When you desribed being attacked by the whole swarm after killing one makes me suspect
you are in fact dealing with africanized (killer) bees.
During my 30+ years in the fire service I have responded to numerous bee calls and killer bee attacks became a frequent occurance in our Colorado
River battalion when the migration moved north from Mexico. We dealt with them by hosing down the swarm with Class A firefighting foam that killed
the bees but it is not something I would suggest for a homeowner. The firefighter would don full protective clothing and then every possible opening
on their clothing would be duct taped shut , ie; cuffs, collars, bee veil, etc. (Yes we took to carrying bee veils on our engines). I remember one
call where the firefighter counted over 150 stingers in just one of his gloves after the call.
They aren't something you want to mess with. These bees can be extremely aggressive when messed with. It seemed several of our calls were caused
just by loud noises such as starting a lawnmower. Please seek professional help.
In Memory of E-57
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EnsenadaDr
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Mood: Move on. It is just a chapter in the past, but don't close the book- just turn the page
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Professional help
I totally agree. When I first bought my house, every April a swarm of bees would go to just under the upstairs landing. I called an exterminator,
and they drilled a hole in the wall where they said the queen bee and most likely a hive was hidden. They got rid of the bees, and a few days later,
the bees were back. They did a second extermination. and that got rid of them. The next year, the same time in April, it happened again. I had the
exterminator come out, and just like the year before, he had to come twice, but got rid of the problem. This happened a year or two after, but
haven't seen the swarm in about 6 years. It can be extremely problematical, but can be solved, and like Alan said, it should be handled by a
professional. | Quote: | Originally posted by Alan
BajaBlanca,
From what you have described you have the potential of a very serious problem and I would recommend that you follow shari's advice and solicit the
help of a professional beekeeper or exterminator if necessary. When you desribed being attacked by the whole swarm after killing one makes me suspect
you are in fact dealing with africanized (killer) bees.
During my 30+ years in the fire service I have responded to numerous bee calls and killer bee attacks became a frequent occurance in our Colorado
River battalion when the migration moved north from Mexico. We dealt with them by hosing down the swarm with Class A firefighting foam that killed
the bees but it is not something I would suggest for a homeowner. The firefighter would don full protective clothing and then every possible opening
on their clothing would be duct taped shut , ie; cuffs, collars, bee veil, etc. (Yes we took to carrying bee veils on our engines). I remember one
call where the firefighter counted over 150 stingers in just one of his gloves after the call.
They aren't something you want to mess with. These bees can be extremely aggressive when messed with. It seemed several of our calls were caused
just by loud noises such as starting a lawnmower. Please seek professional help. |
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redmesa
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This is what arrived at our house 4 days ago. Help, I do not want to kill the bees.
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redmesa
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monoloco
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If at all possible just live with them, normally, unless Africanized, honey bees are not aggressive and will become accustomed to your presence, and
they are beneficial.
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Skipjack Joe
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bee thermoregulation
Straight from the textbook:
In hot weather, bees cool the hive by transporting water to the hive and fanning their wings, promoting evaporation and convection.
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