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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MitchMan
If you get your Residente Permanente status, can you still drive your US plated and registered vehicle in Baja (assuming you have one)?
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No one is certain, one way or another. There are rumors that a ruling on that is "coming".........
Never mind asking INM; it's not their bailiwick. It's an Aduana thing.
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durrelllrobert
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THE NEW REQUIREMENT FOR ALL US PLATED VEHICLES TO BE TEMPORALY IMPORTED TO MEXICO DOES NOT APPLY TO BAJA:
Actualmente las únicas excepciones a los requisitos son para viajes a la Península de Baja California y el estado de Sonora, y solo para vehículos
entrando por el puerto de entrada de Nogales.
Currently the only exceptions to the requirements are for travel to Baja California and Sonora, and only for vehicles entering through the Nogales
port of entry.
Bob Durrell
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Leo
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To answer Mitch Man's question; not sure about this, but keep in mind that the 'permanente' status does not make you a Mexican, so I believe you can
drive whatever you want.
The grass is always greener....
and so, there is always a better spot in Baja
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Hook
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WHO says you have to nationalize your car?
Isnt your Isuzu built in Japan? Wont that be ineligible for importing?
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oladulce
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
My family and I finally got our cards.... my kids have to renew every 4 years until they are 18....
My wife and I? Never.
I can apply for citizenship in 4 years.
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Soulpatch,
Did you guys have fm3's before you moved to Mex fulltime? If not, and you used tourist cards for your Baja trips, what criteria did they use for your
Permanentes?
Great to hear all is well over there.
[Edited on 2-26-2013 by oladulce]
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MitchMan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
My family and I finally got our cards.... my kids have to renew every 4 years until they are 18....
My wife and I? Never.
Have to Nationalize my Isuzu and the Toyota won't fly.... whatever.
I can apply for citizenship in 4 years.
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For those located in the Mainland of Mexico, there is definitely a requirement to nationalize your vehicle if you have Resedente Permanente status,
and, Nayarit is certainly in Mainland Mexico.
I've read some literature lately that may indicate that nationalizing of US plated vehicles may not be a requirement in Baja because the Baja is, in
its entirety, a "Free Zone".
Every time I see the wording, however, it is not absolutely conclusive. When you read about the requirements for nationalizing such vehicles by those
that get their Residente Permanente, there is always a separate phrase saying that nationalizing of US plated vehicles requirements does not apply to
any part of the Baja because it is a Free Zone.
I would like to see something authoritative that specifically says that those who reside in Baja that get their Residente Permanente status do not
have to nationalize their vehicles. Haven't seen that wording yet anywhere, but I have seen the phrase saying that Nationalizing of foreign vehicles
is not a requirement in Baja. There is a difference.
[Edited on 2-26-2013 by MitchMan]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
I can apply for citizenship in 4 years.
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Why would you consider this? I'm just curious.
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MitchMan
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Not have to pay cap gains tax or IETU or IVA on the sale of a personal residence as a Mexican citizen could be a reason.
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Leo
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Yep, MitchMan, good thinking!
The grass is always greener....
and so, there is always a better spot in Baja
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gpm414
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Anyone received their Residente Permanente card from the LaPaz immigration office yet. How long did it take? We turned all the paperwork in on Feb.
7th, have been through all the approvals and did the final fingerprints on March 5th and were told another month until the card is back in LaPaz.
Wondering if it will take a full month or is Mexico City starting to process the Permanente cards a little faster ?? Apparently the La Paz office
will call us when the card is there.
Thinking of leaving after Easter and just pick up the card when we return in the Fall if it is not back by when we leave. The office in La Paz is
jammed with people flying out of the country and waiting to get letters to allow them to leave as the process is taking so long for final cards to be
returned.
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gpm414
Anyone received their Residente Permanente card from the LaPaz immigration office yet. How long did it take? We turned all the paperwork in on Feb.
7th, have been through all the approvals and did the final fingerprints on March 5th and were told another month until the card is back in LaPaz.
Wondering if it will take a full month or is Mexico City starting to process the Permanente cards a little faster ?? Apparently the La Paz office
will call us when the card is there.
Thinking of leaving after Easter and just pick up the card when we return in the Fall if it is not back by when we leave. The office in La Paz is
jammed with people flying out of the country and waiting to get letters to allow them to leave as the process is taking so long for final cards to be
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You would have to get an en tramite letter to leave the country without your credencial, which I
believe is only good for a maximum 60 days.
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gpm414
Anyone received their Residente Permanente card from the LaPaz immigration office yet. How long did it take? We turned all the paperwork in on Feb.
7th, have been through all the approvals and did the final fingerprints on March 5th and were told another month until the card is back in LaPaz.
Wondering if it will take a full month or is Mexico City starting to process the Permanente cards a little faster ?? Apparently the La Paz office
will call us when the card is there.
Thinking of leaving after Easter and just pick up the card when we return in the Fall if it is not back by when we leave. The office in La Paz is
jammed with people flying out of the country and waiting to get letters to allow them to leave as the process is taking so long for final cards to be
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You have 90 days to pick up the card at INM once it is ready
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akshadow
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| Quote: | | You have 90 days to pick up the card at INM once it is ready |
different maybe? San Felipe We are getting a temporary resident card. sent in paperwork Dec. had been on third year of renewal, left for two months,
went back to Immigration in Feb. color pictures and finger prints. told it may be back in one to two months.
Told officer we are leaving mid April, he said it may not be back then asked us when we are returning. We said October, he said not problem, just as
long as we got back before it expired.
So appears that 90 days after final approval may not apply?
Ron San Felipe Oct, Nov. Feb. Mar. April. remainder in Juneau Ak
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by akshadow
You have 90 days to pick up the card at INM once it is ready |
different maybe? San Felipe We are getting a temporary resident card. sent in paperwork Dec. had been on third year of renewal, left for two months,
went back to Immigration in Feb. color pictures and finger prints. told it may be back in one to two months.
Told officer we are leaving mid April, he said it may not be back then asked us when we are returning. We said October, he said not problem, just as
long as we got back before it expired.
So appears that 90 days after final approval may not apply? |
Lo Siento.....forgot this is Mexico........the 90 day info came from Ensenada INM.....ymmv, depending on location, day of week, time of day and who
(whom) you talked to
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Riom
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| Quote: | Originally posted by akshadow
San Felipe We are getting a temporary resident card. sent in paperwork Dec. had been on third year of renewal, left for two months, went back to
Immigration in Feb. color pictures and finger prints. told it may be back in one to two months.
Told officer we are leaving mid April, he said it may not be back then asked us when we are returning. |
I did the fingerprints and photos in San Felipe around Jan 20th, then picked up my temporary resident card (and signed the book) around Feb 24th, so
there's a good chance your card will arrive in time, keep checking (they're neatly filed with your application when they arrive).
There are lots of entries in the book for the cards that are available, but not many of them have been collected (signed for) yet. Immigration won't
notify you when the card is ready.
Rob
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gnukid
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by akshadow
You have 90 days to pick up the card at INM once it is ready |
different maybe? San Felipe We are getting a temporary resident card. sent in paperwork Dec. had been on third year of renewal, left for two months,
went back to Immigration in Feb. color pictures and finger prints. told it may be back in one to two months.
Told officer we are leaving mid April, he said it may not be back then asked us when we are returning. We said October, he said not problem, just as
long as we got back before it expired.
So appears that 90 days after final approval may not apply? |
You must pick up the card within a time limit or it will expire, I would not trust the conversation you had, it may have been a misunderstanding or
perhaps the agent is inexperienced or perhaps the rules changed but I would not risk losing all that effort to a misunderstanding as has happened to
many frineds who expected to be able to go back after 6 months and pick up a waiting card that was expired. Worse, you beleive your legal and drive
through the border with your temp exit papers to arrive to pick up the new card and find that not only did you lose the time, money and years on a
visa in good standing to find that you are now a criminal in the country illegally and you are in big trouble. Take a nice trip and go get your card
when it is ready. Sheesh.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
Hey Dennis,
MitchMan nailed with the citizenship answer.
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Well....I was just asking, but, personally, I would need a more emotional reason to want to be a citizen of any country other than my own.
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greengoes
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Living in Ensenada makes it sooooo easy to nationalize your car......
Just take all the license plates off it and it will blend right in.
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RnR
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
| Quote: | Originally posted by akshadow
You have 90 days to pick up the card at INM once it is ready |
different maybe? San Felipe We are getting a temporary resident card. sent in paperwork Dec. had been on third year of renewal, left for two months,
went back to Immigration in Feb. color pictures and finger prints. told it may be back in one to two months.
Told officer we are leaving mid April, he said it may not be back then asked us when we are returning. We said October, he said not problem, just as
long as we got back before it expired.
So appears that 90 days after final approval may not apply? |
You must pick up the card within a time limit or it will expire, I would not trust the conversation you had, it may have been a misunderstanding or
perhaps the agent is inexperienced or perhaps the rules changed but I would not risk losing all that effort to a misunderstanding as has happened to
many frineds who expected to be able to go back after 6 months and pick up a waiting card that was expired. Worse, you beleive your legal and drive
through the border with your temp exit papers to arrive to pick up the new card and find that not only did you lose the time, money and years on a
visa in good standing to find that you are now a criminal in the country illegally and you are in big trouble. Take a nice trip and go get your card
when it is ready. Sheesh. |
I can't possibly see how it would be okay to leave in April and pick up the card in October.
My understanding of the official (and legal) process:
1. You submit your application for a new card. (and they take your old card as part of the process).
2. While your application is being processed, you decide to leave the country.
3. To leave legally (w/o a current immigration card), you must apply for a "Permission to Leave and Return" letter.
4. The "Permission" letter has a maximum term of 60 days. You must return to Mexico before the 60 days expire.
5. April to October is more than 60 days ...... ??
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monoloco
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by RnR
| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
| Quote: | Originally posted by akshadow
You have 90 days to pick up the card at INM once it is ready |
different maybe? San Felipe We are getting a temporary resident card. sent in paperwork Dec. had been on third year of renewal, left for two months,
went back to Immigration in Feb. color pictures and finger prints. told it may be back in one to two months.
Told officer we are leaving mid April, he said it may not be back then asked us when we are returning. We said October, he said not problem, just as
long as we got back before it expired.
So appears that 90 days after final approval may not apply? |
You must pick up the card within a time limit or it will expire, I would not trust the conversation you had, it may have been a misunderstanding or
perhaps the agent is inexperienced or perhaps the rules changed but I would not risk losing all that effort to a misunderstanding as has happened to
many frineds who expected to be able to go back after 6 months and pick up a waiting card that was expired. Worse, you beleive your legal and drive
through the border with your temp exit papers to arrive to pick up the new card and find that not only did you lose the time, money and years on a
visa in good standing to find that you are now a criminal in the country illegally and you are in big trouble. Take a nice trip and go get your card
when it is ready. Sheesh. |
I can't possibly see how it would be okay to leave in April and pick up the card in October.
My understanding of the official (and legal) process:
1. You submit your application for a new card. (and they take your old card as part of the process).
2. While your application is being processed, you decide to leave the country.
3. To leave legally (w/o a current immigration card), you must apply for a "Permission to Leave and Return" letter.
4. The "Permission" letter has a maximum term of 60 days. You must return to Mexico before the 60 days expire.
5. April to October is more than 60 days ...... ??
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From my personal experience I
believe you are correct RnR. Seeing how it is illegal to get a tourist card if you have another immigration status and the letter of permission to
leave is only valid for 60 days, theoretically, you would have no LEGAL way to re-enter Mexico.
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