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JohnK
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"Offline" IPad maps?
I have one of the IPads with an internal GPS, one that doesn't need cellular or wifi. I have a bunch of "offline" maps, meaning you don't need an
internet connection. I can see where I am on the moving map. Some are free like OpenStreetMap, some are not, like sectionals for flying. Does anybody
know of any that cover Baja? Is it, are they, any good? Any input would be welcome.
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willyAirstream
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I have been searching for baja online maps too. So far, none show much detail and i have to cross reference with Baha Almanac. Tom tom is supposed to
have detailed baha maps, but i can`t verify. Anyone here using TomTom?
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bajaguy
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Don't know about any specific Baja map apps for i-phones or androids.
My Garmin nuvi 2595LMT came pre-loaded with generic Baja road maps. Works great on the highway and around towns (Ensenada, Rosarito, TJ, GN). There
are several Tom-Tom's that come with pre-loaded Baja road maps also.
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cbuzzetti
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Try MotionX GPS. It is a free app and I used it while in Costa Rica. It does not require a cell signal and has all different types of maps.
Just a happy user, no connection to the company.
BajaBuzz
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Jaybo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by willyAirstream
I have been searching for baja online maps too. So far, none show much detail and i have to cross reference with Baha Almanac. Tom tom is supposed to
have detailed baha maps, but i can`t verify. Anyone here using TomTom? |
Yeah, We had a TomTom on our way down and they do have Baja maps. The problem is they are out of date by quite a bit. Not sure where they get their
data.
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Jaybo
Yeah, We had a TomTom on our way down and they do have Baja maps. The problem is they are out of date by quite a bit. Not sure where they get their
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Both Tom-Tom and Garmin have on-line updates available. Some models of both have the free updates. I update my Garmin about every 6 months.
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Sweetwater
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Big difference with road maps vs topo maps for any GPS system. I haven't been very impressed with any GPS data for Mexico. One of our group had an
"E32" topo on the recent trip to the mainland. It worked but still had issues.
Everbody\'s preachin\' at me that we all wanna git to heaven, trouble is, nobody wants to die to git there.-BB King
Reality is what does not go away when you stop believing in it. -Philip K Dick
Nothing is worse than active ignorance. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe(1749-1832, German writer, artist and politician)
When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I\'ve never tried before. - Mae West
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Jaybo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
Both Tom-Tom and Garmin have on-line updates available. Some models of both have the free updates. I update my Garmin about every 6 months.
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Yeah, I have lifetime free updates and did so right before we left. There was stuff that wasn't on there that was there back in 2007 in the Cabo area
even.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by cbuzzetti
Try MotionX GPS. It is a free app and I used it while in Costa Rica. It does not require a cell signal and has all different types of maps.
Just a happy user, no connection to the company. |
This seems to be an exciting option! I went to the site, but could find no samples or listings that included Baja California, or how much the app
costs, or how to use it? Perhaps because I am over 50, but appreciate any links to Baja maps that will go into the I-Phone (I hope that includes my
Android). That it works without a cell or wifi signal seems too amazing to be true...?
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JohnK
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I have the Garmin Nuvi. Works great for the US and Europe. Quite rudimentary for Baja, main roads and cities. I checked out the MotionX GPS site,
couldn't really find anything for Baja. Some racing sites had their own maps for tracking. I wish I could scan the Almanac maps and geocode them, not
to mention all those great maps DavidK posts (Thank You, David!).
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russchung
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BiciMapas
I have used BiciMapas on my Garmin GPS for several years. Their web site says that they have versions for Symbian, Windows Mobile, and Android. An
iOS version "will soon be released".
Our cell & Smarthphone map series are available for Mexico as well as other latin American countries., has been
developed thinking in the traveler, tourist, adventurer or explorer who would like to have a reliable and handy map suitable to be used in their cell
phone without excessive roaming charges when traveling, as all the information needed is stored in the device. They are also fully functional where no
cell phone coverage is available. The Navitel Navigation System offers a wide function selection and characteristics in a friendly, easy to use
interface and is compatible with the most used cell phone operating systems such as Symbian, Windows Mobile and Android. An iPhone compatible version
will soon be released as well.
web site: http://www.bicimapas.com.mx
English: http://www.bicimapas.com.mx/English.htm
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mrfatboy
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Navigon (a garmin company) for iphone and android is decent mexico road maps. Turn by turn directions. I have only used it on my way to Gonzaga and
back. Good detail in Mexicali and San Felipe. Navigon uses navteq map data. You can check navteq.com and see if its good enough for you.
Also try citymaps2go for you idevice.
What are you looking for? Driving directions or just general maps? It makes a difference.
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cbuzzetti
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I just looked at my MotionX GPS maps, there are 11 different types of maps. google, Bing and even NOAA Marine. This includes road, terrain and
sattelite maps. It has very detailed maps of towns and dirt roads in Baja.
I only used it in Costa Rica but I now see that it will be very good for Baja too.
BajaBuzz
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mrfatboy
Navigon (a garmin company) for iphone and android is decent mexico road maps. Turn by turn directions. I have only used it on my way to Gonzaga and
back. Good detail in Mexicali and San Felipe. Navigon uses navteq map data. You can check navteq.com and see if its good enough for you.
Also try citymaps2go for you idevice.
What are you looking for? Driving directions or just general maps? It makes a difference. |
General Maps... to see where you are in relation to where you want to be. Don't need driving directions when there is only one road... the exception
might be in cities getting to the border during their frequent construction periods.
I used my Garmin eTrex Legend (with Baja Norte topo maps loaded) last July when the road I was taken didn't end up in Pozo Aleman, but on the graded
road that passes it. I wasn't sure if I was east or west of Pozo Aleman. As it turned out I was less than a mile east of it, so I made a left turn to
see the ghost town before heading east to Punta San Francisquito. That was the blessing of the GPS that day... if I had turned right, I would have
missed that cool place. 
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tripledigitken
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I recently was turned on to this app for android phones.
http://dualsportmaps.com/
I met a group of dirt bike riders at Gonzaga Bay that were headed over La Turqueza and had a tract downloaded for that route. With notes from a
previous rider that had taken the route. I haven't spent any time with it yet.
It might be something that would interest the MC riders here especially.
Ken
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Alm
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I'm with David K. You don't need a road map when there is only one road. Used a base map on my 10-something years old Garmin Map60, entered GPS of
campsites, clicked on "follow the road" option and it gave me beeping warning a hundred yards before the turn-off from Mex 1. It wasn't even a road
map, just a base map, it only shows Mex 1 and a few main streets in Ensenada and Tijuana.
On my Android I am using free app Navfree, it has a voice guidance which is nice. It is based on Open Street Maps and has all the flaws of Open Street
Maps. I appreciate people investing their time in developing new software, but it the US it works 50/50. It can take you you to dirt road with heavy
trailer in rain, instead of paved road - doesn't matter whether you enter "the easiest route" or "the fastest". Or, it brings you to 4615 number
instead of 1615, i.e. 30 blocks off, in the area where you can't go 30 blocks back because the street interrupts with hills etc, so you have to go
through unfamiliar highways and exits - in rush hour in SoCal, can you imagine. Their database for POI like banks or stores works same bad as street
numbers - chances are it won't find a Wallmart or Home Depot in a big US city. Once again - it works, and promptly guided me back to Interstate 5 when
I took the wrong exit by mistake, but it doesn't always work. If you go faster than 40 mph it might not react in time to give you a warning of a turn
or exit, so I slow down when going through cities or approaching exits - which is a reasonable thing to do anyway. Or it will tell you to keep left
before the complicated triple exit, and then it won't tell you to take the middle lane in that triple exit.
I didn't download Navfree map for Mexico so can't say how good is Baja map.
I don't think there is any good offline satellite-based road map. There is nothing as good as Google Maps, which are unfortunately web-based.
[Edited on 4-3-2013 by Alm]
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mrfatboy
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I believe google maps allows you to cache the maps offline. I'm not sure how big an area they let you store at once but I know my friend uses it when
we go down to Gonzaga. He uses an android phone. I thought I read the new google maps for the iphone allows you to cache maps also but I have not
verified it.
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mrfatboy
I believe google maps allows you to cache the maps offline. I'm not sure how big an area they let you store at once but I know my friend uses it when
we go down to Gonzaga. He uses an android phone. I thought I read the new google maps for the iphone allows you to cache maps also but I have not
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The app I mentioned above uses many map sources that are downloaded into your phone memory and then with their program you overlay routes on top of
the cached maps. It is very cool.
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Alm
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mrfatboy
I believe google maps allows you to cache the maps offline. I'm not sure how big an area they let you store at once but I know my friend uses it when
we go down to Gonzaga. He uses an android phone. |
Poorly. I would say - it doesn't store them. At least, this has been my experience with Android HTC 1V. It stores one tile of Google Map, then small
details disappear after you go offline, and then the whole tile disappears when you shut the phone off. Not worth the trouble, just use Navfree or
any other Open Street app.
Though I'm cheap and using 'droid without any memory card, maybe with SD card it would store it better than in the onboard memory. This would be
weird, since HTC 1V has over 1GB of onboard memory (on top of all the pre-loaded crapware that it came with), and I don't store videos and music. 1GB
should be plenty for one map tile.
[Edited on 4-4-2013 by Alm]
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mrfatboy
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Check out MOUNTAIN BIKE and TRAIL TRACKER for the iphone. Very similar to motionx GPS. I'm not sure if on android tho.
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