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mulegemichael
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grace; what part of washington state.....and...you WILL eventually find one in the house...it's a matter of time...we're in sequim.
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Lindalou
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A couple of nights ago I found one in my hallway. The cats had found it first. I too worry about them getting stung.
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grace59
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mulegemichael
grace; what part of washington state.....and...you WILL eventually find one in the house...it's a matter of time...we're in sequim.
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Hi Michael, We live between Tenino and Rainer, but I work in Lacey. I've been to Sequim...the dry spot of Western Washington.  I know that eventually we WILL find a scorpion in our home in San Felipe. It is just
a matter of time! That is why I am pro-active and go out looking for them before they get into the house. Since I am a teacher, I spend my summers in
Baja when all the creepy crawley singing, biting things are out! Do you have a home in Mulege? It has been many years since I have been there, but it
is on our list when we move full time to Baja.
Whenever I hear that rainy, chill wind blow. I think it may be time to head for Mexico. Tengo que obedecer mi corazon!
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tjsue
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I'll be moving to TJ in the fall. Should I buy the light and some Home Defense as a precautionary measure against scorpions? I have two cats, and
they probably wouldn't even look at them.
I lived in Tucson at one time, and never saw a scorpion, but I saw lots of tarantulas.
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sargentodiaz
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You folks are truly cruel. Scorpions have been around for millenia and play an important part in nature. They mainly eat insects and are especially
fond of ants, roaches, and others.
Indians got along with them for thousands of years so why can't you?
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rts551
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I have them in Tucson and Abreojos but seldom see them. I usually have to search them out. Having been stung by one before, it packed less of a
punch than a wasp or bee. From what I have read, the common bark scorpion found in Baja is not dangerous unless you are allergic to insect bites.
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KaceyJ
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SO , ONE has to ask ( at least this one ) , why and how do scorpions "glow" when exposed to UV??
They're nocturnal, nighttime hunters , hide in the day, don't want to do anyone any harm except their prey yet will sting if provocked.
I always relocate them when possible , just like I'd do for a snattlerake.
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rts551
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Scorpions Glow under black light because of proteins close to the surface of there skin. No on is quiet sure why, the best guess being they use the
fluorescence to know when it is dark and feeding time. It is also believed that they are one of the first things (and few to survive) that crawled up
and inhabited land.
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grace59
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
I have them in Tucson and Abreojos but seldom see them. I usually have to search them out. Having been stung by one before, it packed less of a
punch than a wasp or bee. From what I have read, the common bark scorpion found in Baja is not dangerous unless you are allergic to insect bites.
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This is what I have seen on-line about Bark Scorpions.
"Medically Significant Scorpion Species
Only one species of scorpion in North America, and about 20 others worldwide, have venom potent enough to be dangerous to human beings. The North
American species, Centruroides exilicauda (formerly called C. sculpturatus), is found over much of Arizona and Mexico. It is also known as the bark
scorpion. A small population occurs in extreme southeastern California, and a few records exist for southern Utah and small parts of Texas, New Mexico
and Nevada.
The venom of the Arizona bark scorpion can cause
•severe pain and swelling at the site of the sting
•numbness
•frothing at the mouth
•respiratory difficulties
•muscle twitching
•convulsions
The sting is more dangerous to infants, small children and the elderly. Death is rare, especially in more recent years. In the past 20 years there
haven't been any reported fatalities due to scorpion stings."
I remember seeing a special on tv about Bark Scorpion Stings and it's effect on children. They showed a child in the hospital going through extreme
pain and seizures. The special was focused on the testing of an anti-venum developed in Mexico and being tested in Arizona.
Whenever I hear that rainy, chill wind blow. I think it may be time to head for Mexico. Tengo que obedecer mi corazon!
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by grace59
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
I have them in Tucson and Abreojos but seldom see them. I usually have to search them out. Having been stung by one before, it packed less of a
punch than a wasp or bee. From what I have read, the common bark scorpion found in Baja is not dangerous unless you are allergic to insect bites.
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This is what I have seen on-line about Bark Scorpions.
"Medically Significant Scorpion Species
Only one species of scorpion in North America, and about 20 others worldwide, have venom potent enough to be dangerous to human beings. The North
American species, Centruroides exilicauda (formerly called C. sculpturatus), is found over much of Arizona and Mexico. It is also known as the bark
scorpion. A small population occurs in extreme southeastern California, and a few records exist for southern Utah and small parts of Texas, New Mexico
and Nevada.
The venom of the Arizona bark scorpion can cause
•severe pain and swelling at the site of the sting
•numbness
•frothing at the mouth
•respiratory difficulties
•muscle twitching
•convulsions
The sting is more dangerous to infants, small children and the elderly. Death is rare, especially in more recent years. In the past 20 years there
haven't been any reported fatalities due to scorpion stings."
I remember seeing a special on tv about Bark Scorpion Stings and it's effect on children. They showed a child in the hospital going through extreme
pain and seizures. The special was focused on the testing of an anti-venum developed in Mexico and being tested in Arizona. |
Interesting, because I have been stung twice, once in Arizona and once in Baja Sur. Both times on the foot. nether time did I exhibit those
symptoms. only mild pain and redness less than, but similar to a bee sting. But then again, some people react to bee stings as well.
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BajaRat
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The symptoms mentioned are the potential of more severe reaction, and yes the more potent bark scorpion lives and thrives in the Sonoran (gulf )
region. On the Pacific side the Giant Hairy Desert Scorpion is more common and thankfully less potent venom. We are proactive and search for them at
night around the pad. I scoop them up and relocate them in the day.
I've heard that a cinnamom powder perimeter will deter the Bark Scorpion. 
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schwlind
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Well tonight what I feared the most happened. One of my cats was stung by a scorpion. I had gone outside for a few minutes and when I returned I saw
my cat hunkered down in the middle of the kitchen floor staring toward the bottom of the refrigerator. Then he began furiously rubbing his face with
his paw... When I saw that, I knew he had probably been stung.
I moved a small cooler in the vicinity of where he was staring... and sure enough a tiny (probably less the 3/4") scorpion was there with his tail
elevated prepared to strike...
I will apologize beforehand to those who may be offended but I killed it immediately with my shoe.
I've been watching my cat since this happened. I think it was a Bark scorpion... and they say, the smaller the scorpion the more potent the venom...
I hope my boy will be okay... as we are far away from a vet.
Linda
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DENNIS
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Bark Scorpions are serious stuff. What I find mostly around here are different...smaller, thinner and less dangerous.....more gray than tan.
I already explained about the one in my shoe.
Here's some Bark Scorpion info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_bark_scorpion
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[Edited on 5-20-2013 by DENNIS]
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DavidE
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When I visited Jason, a Hopi indigena in Eastern Arizona on a reservation, his daughter screamed from the bathroom, there was a bark scorpion hanging
in the shower curtain. He knocked it to the floor and scrunched it with his boot. Guess I should look for a book to send him on how "Indians" are
supposed to live in harmony with scorpions.
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watizname
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I had a young Mexican man from the Puerto Vallarta area who was hired by the company I was working for years ago. One day we were talking at lunch
and scorpions came up. He said he had been stung a few times when he was growing up, and when you feel like you have "ants in your belly, and nose",
you need to get to the doctor. I've never been stung, and every time I see one, I try to keep the odds in my favor, by lowering their population by
one. Same with buzzropes, or snattlerakes.
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Bob H
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Very interesting info on scorpions... I have lived in San Diego since 1984 and I don't think I have ever seen any of them. Is this a Baja thing?
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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David K
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Had scorpions in our home on El Camino Real, in Rancho Santa Fe/ Del Mar area... back in the 60's... so yes, not just a desert or Baja critter.
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CortezBlue
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Living in the desert most of my life, nothing kills scorpions, I.e., bug sprays, bug bombs etc. the best way to kill them is a cat, they are great
killers. also DE, diamatasious earth, a powder used for swimming pool filters If you lay a thick layer around the outside of your foundation and
they crawl through it, it will be sucked into the gills on the scorpions under side and kill them.
Also, the best way to kill is a good firm shoe!
I have been sting many times and never really had much more of a sting than a really bad bee sting, except once!
The last time I was stung, about a year ago, it was on my right thumb, at the bottom of my thumb nail area.
Wow, the numbness went all the way up my right arm to just below my shoulder. It was tingling like it was asleep. Over 3 days it gradually went back
to normal.
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schwlind
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
Living in the desert most of my life, nothing kills scorpions, I.e., bug sprays, bug bombs etc. the best way to kill them is a cat, they are great
killers. also DE, diamatasious earth, a powder used for swimming pool filters If you lay a thick layer around the outside of your foundation and
they crawl through it, it will be sucked into the gills on the scorpions under side and kill them.
Also, the best way to kill is a good firm shoe!
I have been sting many times and never really had much more of a sting than a really bad bee sting, except once!
The last time I was stung, about a year ago, it was on my right thumb, at the bottom of my thumb nail area.
Wow, the numbness went all the way up my right arm to just below my shoulder. It was tingling like it was asleep. Over 3 days it gradually went back
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I do know a good firm shoe works great!
Wow is right!... Do you know what type of scorpion it was?...
My good friend and the caretaker for our property went to Ensenada yesterday and talked to a vet, who was treating a friend's dog, about our
scorpion/cat problem. The vet told him to buy "Deltametrina" by Biothrine which appears to be good for a variety of pests. It is in liquid form and
is mixed with water and sprayed around the perimeter of your inside walls. The vet said we should remove the cats and their food and water from the
premises during the spraying and not return them until it has completely dried.
I have not seen any scorpions out in the middle of the floor, but always close to a wall or bottom of a cabinet. I doubt that it means anything, but
that is where I've always found them.
Thankfully, I did not see any scorpions last night (it seems that is when they are most active), but I'm not taking any chances... the entire house
will be sprayed today. I''ll report back as to its effectiveness.
Again thanks to everyone contributing to this thread... It is very interesting even hearing the anecdotal stories.
Linda
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Kgryfon
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"Indians got along with them for thousands of years so why can't you?"
Well, just a guess but I'd be willing to bet any "Indians" squished them as well. I'm sure they didn't enjoy being stung anymore than we do.
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