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| Ateo 
 
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 Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I was sent to secondary this weekend after the Baja 500 trip.  I was sent there after the Baja 1000 and the Baja 250 last
year.
 
 What is wrong with these agents working secondary?  The a-hole that stands outside of the million dollar x-ray machine looked like he was 18, and as I
looked to him for guidance for what to do next he snidely said, "OK, you can stop now!!!"  He then gave me some vague instructions on where to park.
 
 The waiting began.
 
 Finally an extremely slow walking agent made his way towards my vehicle.
 
 He searched it.  He then went to go sit in the office for another 20 minutes.
 
 While we waited we saw every brown skinned person in secondary told to exit their vehicle and go stand in the fenced corral area.
 
 Are these agents the most disgruntled, disgusting, sad people to roam the Earth?
     
 
 
 
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| villafontana 
 
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 Are those America's gatekeepers??
  
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| vandenberg 
 
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 Are these agents the most disgruntled, disgusting, sad people to roam the Earth?
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 Yes, a holes on a power trip.
    
 
 
 
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| güero 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by vandenberg 
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 Are these agents the most disgruntled, disgusting, sad people to roam the Earth?
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 Yes, a holes on a power trip.
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 One in ten seem to be normal and decent.
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| sancho 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by Ateo Are these agents the most disgruntled, disgusting, sad people to roam the Earth?
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 Crossed at Otay a few months back, riding in a Suburban
 with a sort of newbie driving, the line was so far back
 when we got in line, by the time we reached any lane
 info. we realized were stranded in the Sentri lane. Don't
 know if this alone triggered a secondary or not. This secondary
 agent big lumbering dude started telling us his life
 story. We were his captive audiance. Basically just a bored Govt. employee, I  don't
 think they START out that way, but loose ALL initiative
 within a short time and just look forward to retirement
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| mtgoat666 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by Ateo Are these agents the most disgruntled, disgusting, sad people to roam the Earth?
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 it's probably a chitty job., breathing vehicle exhaust, arguing with every tom, dick and harry about the apples he bought at vons, dealing with sour
additudes of the people annoyed after waiting in line for 3 hours...
 
 look on the bright side:  at least you dont have to worry about them planting evidence on you to fleece bribes
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| DENNIS 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by villafontana Are those America's gatekeepers??
  
 
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 These are the first Americans some travelers meet.  We are so proud of our welcoming committee.
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| DENNIS 
 
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 it's probably a crummy job
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 They weren't drafted.
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| Frank 
 
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 My wife hates to sit in line for anything, let alone the border wait. We have been sent to secondary everytime for the past few years. I can always
feel her head getting ready to do a few 360's before exploding. We haven't been sent to the corral, but a few weeks down south and we are pretty
dark
  
 I try to look at the bright side of the experience. We usually get to watch them tear the hell out of someones vehicle looking for contraband. If they
would only let us take our cameras out and shoot it, I'd go secondary every time with a smile.
 
 Only one time did I feel like the agent was an Idiot. I opened the hood on the truck so he could take a look. A giant moth was trapped, so I set it
free. I thought he was going to draw down on me. We went back and forth a few times. I'm beginning to wonder if he put me on "the list".
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| BajaBlanca 
 
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 I think the part that bothers me is exactly what someone up top mentioned: for some folks, this is their first, maybe second experience with America.
 
 Why they make people sit so long in secondary is beyond me. Does indeed sound like a power trip.
 
 
 
 
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| DENNIS 
 
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 Why they make people sit so long in secondary is beyond me. Does indeed sound like a power trip.
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 They want people to sweat if they're doing something wrong.  The inspectors think they're the reincarnation of Sigmund Freud.
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| BAJA.DESERT.RAT 
 
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 Hola,
 
 
 i was sent to secondary about three years ago at the north tecate crossing after sitting in my car for about three hours.
 
 after speaking with the primary inspector, i was sent to secondary.
 
 i was directed to the area they wanted me in and i stepped out of my car and asked the female inspector if i could use the bathroom as i had to go
real bad after my wait in line. the bull dyke yelled at me to get back in my car NOW.
 
 about two or three minutes later, a young male inspector came up to my car and i asked him if i could go to the bathroom he immediately said yes and
pointed to the bathroom about twenty or so feet away.
 
 he asked me to open my trailer and go to a waiting area.
 
 after he was done, he said i could go.
 
 from the time he came to my car until he was finished, he was the most polite person.
 
 i guess dyke forgets who they are working for and whose paying their wages ??
 
 BIEN SALUD,  DA RAT
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| SFandH 
 
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 I've been in secondary a few times. The employees make an unpleasant experience worse with their rotten attitudes and slow motion procedures. Plus the
fat ones wear uniforms that are a couple of sizes too small. They're even painful to look at, let alone deal with.
 
 
 
 
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| Russ 
 
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 The 1st time I was sent to secondary in 20 years was last March on my BD. The guy that sent me there couldn't open the hatch on my Explorer. When I
got into secondary a dog handler came by and ask why I was there because he could read the yellow ticket the a hole but on the windshield. Before he
put his dog away he offered my dog a treat then came over and popped the hatch.The whole time we talked dogs and then he made the cars stacked up
behind me move so I could get out and said have a good day.
 
 
 
 
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| mojo_norte 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by BAJA.DESERT.RAT Hola,
 
 
 i was sent to secondary about three years ago at the north tecate crossing after sitting in my car for about three hours.
 
 after speaking with the primary inspector, i was sent to secondary.
 
 i was directed to the area they wanted me in and i stepped out of my car and asked the female inspector if i could use the bathroom as i had to go
real bad after my wait in line. the bull dyke yelled at me to get back in my car NOW.
 
 about two or three minutes later, a young male inspector came up to my car and i asked him if i could go to the bathroom he immediately said yes and
pointed to the bathroom about twenty or so feet away.
 
 he asked me to open my trailer and go to a waiting area.
 
 after he was done, he said i could go.
 
 from the time he came to my car until he was finished, he was the most polite person.
 
 i guess dyke forgets who they are working for and whose paying their wages ??
 
 BIEN SALUD,  DA RAT
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 Been there - I always bring a book and an empty Gator aid bottle ..
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| liknbaja127 
 
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 We just got back yesterday, crossed at Otay Mesa, had a 25 min wait
 at 8:30 am. We always go through secondary when we are pulling
 prerunner. just the way it is. but is fun to watch the activity that goes
 on. One of our trucks that was comming through later app. 2:00 pm. They
 were asked by the border agents if it was ok to plant some drugs in their
 truck! They were full of race stuff! they said they wanted to test the dog.
 they agreed, and said it was a blast to watch the dog work. they did it for about, 15 min. when they got to the front they checked their passports.
 said thanks, and they did not have to go through the secondary! good
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| Baja Bucko 
 
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 Didn't these guys worry that the drugs used would leave any scent for the next trip thru an inspection????? The dogs are very good at what they do but
it is NOT a good idea to use a vehicle for a test if that vehicle will be heading back to Baja in the future.....
 
 Just sayin.....
   
 
 
 
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 La Mula Mil Survivor 2013-2014!
 1000 miles by mule from the tip to Tecate!
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| liknbaja127 
 
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 good thought! not sure were they put it. but they will never find any drugs
 with this team. I hope
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| DENNIS 
 
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 I watched one of those dogs make a real bust in the TJ line years back.  It was amazing to see him work the scent from car to car until he zeroed in
on the guilty one.
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| J.P. 
 
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| DOGS 
 
 We have a two year old Shepard, She has her favorite ball and I try to hide it from her, She always finds it it's truly amazing how smart those dogs
are. you don't have to train them they train you.
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