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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 02:04 PM
Question on tires


I have a 2010 Tacoma 4WD. I'm almost due for new tires and want something a little more aggressive than the factory tires. I won't be doing that much off roading or beach driving but some. This truck is my daily driver which includes some freeway driving in Ca so I don't want that annoying hum which a to aggressive tread seems to do. I would appreciate any information on what you folks are using. Thanks.
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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 02:18 PM


I just posted this up (moments ago) on a Jeep Wrangler forum where the BFGoodrich vs. the Goodyear Duratracs were being debated:
Goodyear Duratracs or BFGoodrich

The consensus leans towards the Duratracs, but I don't know how much noise these tires emit. Here is what I reported:

The limited amount of real world mud testing showed that these tires handle some mud, but are not intended for mud usage.

The Ford Ranger and my Rubicon (far right) both have AT/KOs and made it across the muddy desert creek in the background.



Dropping into the muddy creek




Coming out of the Swamp at Mission Impossible near Cataviña in Baja California.


The Swamp - Mission Impossible near Cataviña in Baja California


Gold Crown Road - just outside of Joshua Tree NP
The black JK with AT/KOs ran the mud pit and didn't get stuck - (although, he kept up his momentum the entire time)





TrXus MTs w/ 4/32nds tread required the winch cable


AT/KOs packed in w/mud


MTRs packed in w/mud


MTRs w/Kevlar - not packed in w/mud




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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 02:25 PM
Tacoma Tires


I have a 2006 Tacoma Double Cab Short Bed and just purchased a set of Toyo Open Country A/T 265/70-16's.

With 2500 miles on them I really like how they handle and no road noise to speak of. Most of my driving is city or highway, with little or no off-road.

Just put 1500 miles on them from Carson City, NV to Ensenada and return, plus driving around Ensenada with no concerns or problems.........big plus is they have a 65k mileage warranty.

http://toyotires.com/tire/pattern/open-country-at-ii-on-off-...

[Edited on 6-16-2013 by bajaguy]




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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 03:02 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by Bubba
I have a 2010 Tacoma 4WD. I'm almost due for new tires and want something a little more aggressive than the factory tires. I won't be doing that much off roading or beach driving but some. This truck is my daily driver which includes some freeway driving in Ca so I don't want that annoying hum which a to aggressive tread seems to do. I would appreciate any information on what you folks are using. Thanks.


You might want to take a look at Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S tires. For the use you describe they would, I believe, work very well. Jim
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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 03:05 PM


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Originally posted by bajaguy
I have a 2006 Tacoma Double Cab Short Bed and just purchased a set of Toyo Open Country A/T 265/70-16's.

With 2500 miles on them I really like how they handle and no road noise to speak of. Most of my driving is city or highway, with little or no off-road.

Just put 1500 miles on them from Carson City, NV to Ensenada and return, plus driving around Ensenada with no concerns or problems.........big plus is they have a 65k mileage warranty.

I like these, do you mind me asking how much you paid and where you bought them? Thanks.

http://toyotires.com/tire/pattern/open-country-at-ii-on-off-...

[Edited on 6-16-2013 by bajaguy]
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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 03:08 PM


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Originally posted by Bubba
I have a 2010 Tacoma 4WD. I'm almost due for new tires and want something a little more aggressive than the factory tires. I won't be doing that much off roading or beach driving but some. This truck is my daily driver which includes some freeway driving in Ca so I don't want that annoying hum which a to aggressive tread seems to do. I would appreciate any information on what you folks are using. Thanks.


You might want to take a look at Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S tires. For the use you describe they would, I believe, work very well. Jim


Thanks Jim, I'll look at these also.
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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 03:13 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by bajaguy
I have a 2006 Tacoma Double Cab Short Bed and just purchased a set of Toyo Open Country A/T 265/70-16's.

With 2500 miles on them I really like how they handle and no road noise to speak of. Most of my driving is city or highway, with little or no off-road.

Just put 1500 miles on them from Carson City, NV to Ensenada and return, plus driving around Ensenada with no concerns or problems.........big plus is they have a 65k mileage warranty.






http://toyotires.com/tire/pattern/open-country-at-ii-on-off-...

[Edited on 6-16-2013 by bajaguy]








I just sold a Nissan 4x4 that had the Toyo Open Country tires on it they were on the truck when I bought it 3 years ago and we ran it all over Baja When I sold the truck they still showed little wear.

When I buy new tires I always buy Cooper A.T.R. no road noise and the wear great I lived in the Sierra's a lot of years and Like how they wear My Suburban 4x4 has a set on it now so far after 20 + thousand mi. they still look good
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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 03:13 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by Bubba
Quote:
Originally posted by bajaguy
I have a 2006 Tacoma Double Cab Short Bed and just purchased a set of Toyo Open Country A/T 265/70-16's.

With 2500 miles on them I really like how they handle and no road noise to speak of. Most of my driving is city or highway, with little or no off-road.

Just put 1500 miles on them from Carson City, NV to Ensenada and return, plus driving around Ensenada with no concerns or problems.........big plus is they have a 65k mileage warranty.

I like these, do you mind me asking how much you paid and where you bought them? Thanks.

http://toyotires.com/tire/pattern/open-country-at-ii-on-off-...

[Edited on 6-16-2013 by bajaguy]





Somewhere in the neighborhood of $850, mounted/balanced/tax

Purchased from Las Schwab Tire Centers:

http://www.lesschwab.com/

Free rotations, balancing and flat repairs. Purchased from Schwab since I travel in NoCal, Nevada, Utah and Oregon.

I'm sure you can purchase on-line also

[Edited on 6-16-2013 by bajaguy]




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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 03:14 PM
Tires


I had BFG ATs on my Ranger. Good tires, a little noisy.
Got a 2008 Tacoma DCLB, 4WD, and put on Toyo ATs. Very good tires. At 32,000 I got a set of BFG Rugged Terrains. These have been very good. A little quieter than the Toyos, and better in the rain.
We do race chasing and pit setups in Baja - go just about everywhere. No problems getting stuck, very good in sand/silt - don't seem to want to dig a hole for themselves like a more aggressive MT-type tire. Don't know for snow or deep mud.
Very smooth riding at speeds.
I'd recommend them.
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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 03:16 PM


I have General Grabber at2 E sidewall on my diesel Suburban 4x4 and P rated sidewall my VW Safari. They are similiar to the BF Goodrich at ko. They are quite on the highway and are a great off road tire but driving on the beach won´t be done with these. I think they would be as DK says "Grave diggers"

For highway and sand the Michelins ATX I had before these would be a good tire.

[Edited on 6-16-2013 by chippy]
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I have the "Geo's" on a Subaru Outback and am very pleased with them. They are surprizedly good offr oad in baja. Very little hiway noise over the stock tires. Looks like they should last 40k.

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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 03:21 PM


Have got BFG Rugged Trails on the Tundra and 4Runner. Very happy. And not crazy priced.
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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 04:30 PM


on the subject of tires. came down 60ty days ago in my 2013 FJ crusier it is a limited Trail edition with nice tries. Did not let air out crossing from Ganzaga to GN.

Headed back to texas july 2nd. Not sure about the air letting out thing. Is it something I should do?
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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 04:41 PM


FWIW, my toyo ATs got me all of 23k miles.....

i've since put on these: http://www.michelinman.com/tire-selector/category/light-truc...

let's be real. how long do you EXPECT the tires to last vs. how much off roading you do? if i see 60k outta these tires i'll be stoked! afterall, most of the off roading is preceded by 1000's of miles of pavement..... YMMV




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Originally posted by woody with a view
let's be real. how long do you EXPECT the tires to last vs. how much off roading you do? if i see 60k outta these tires i'll be stoked! afterall, most of the off roading is preceded by 1000's of miles of pavement..... YMMV





No real off roading, unless you count Baja potholes. Mostly highway.

Rotate every 3 to 5K, maintain air pressure, alignment. Should get 45K + no problem




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Originally posted by woody with a view
FWIW, my toyo ATs got me all of 23k miles.....

i've since put on these: http://www.michelinman.com/tire-selector/category/light-truc...

let's be real. how long do you EXPECT the tires to last vs. how much off roading you do? if i see 60k outta these tires i'll be stoked! afterall, most of the off roading is preceded by 1000's of miles of pavement..... YMMV


I hear you on the 23k miles, my truck has 32k on it and these stock tires, Bridgestone Duelers are pretty much shot and this is after very "easy driving", no real off roading to speak of.

There's so much good information here, thank you.
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I have the "Geo's" on a Subaru Outback and am very pleased with them. They are surprizedly good offr oad in baja. Very little hiway noise over the stock tires. Looks like they should last 40k.

Ken
I'll second the Geos, I have a set on my F350 and they have held up well and were a bargain at $750 at America's Tire. At the time I bought them Les Schwab wanted $1200 for a set of the Toyo Open Country's.



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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 07:24 PM


Of potential interest:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.js...



I'm now a Bridgestone fanatic based upon my experience with the Dueler series tires I've used for quite a few years now. This, after having multiple BFG LT tire failures (and a Goodyear failure as well - but that's an apples-to-oranges comparison).

Sounds like my own off-road needs and use are beyond what you're looking for though. Perhaps you should consider the very highly rated Firestone Destination AT's?

The place(s) likely to have the best prices on Bridgestone and Firestone are these tire centers:
http://www.firestonecompleteautocare.com




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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 07:49 PM


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I'm now a Bridgestone fanatic based upon my experience with the Dueler series tires I've used for quite a few years now. This, after having multiple BFG LT tire failures (and a Goodyear failure as well - but that's an apples-to-oranges comparison).


Wow, those are the stock tires on my truck and I've never seen worse. I suppose they wore ok in some areas, there was no side ware or anything, I've always brought it back to the dealer on 5k miles, tires rotated etc but there's no almost no tread left after 32k miles. It's where the rubber meets the road that's shot, I don't like it.
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I'm now a Bridgestone fanatic based upon my experience with the Dueler series tires I've used for quite a few years now. This, after having multiple BFG LT tire failures (and a Goodyear failure as well - but that's an apples-to-oranges comparison).


Wow, those are the stock tires on my truck and I've never seen worse. I suppose they wore ok in some areas, there was no side ware or anything, I've always brought it back to the dealer on 5k miles, tires rotated etc but there's no almost no tread left after 32k miles. It's where the rubber meets the road that's shot, I don't like it.


I think several tires in dueler line. Bridgestone dueler a/t revos are pretty good. On my 2nd set now. First set lasted over 50k miles. Stock duelers came on my 4runner and they lasted 50k miles. If you wear out tires in 30k miles I think your problem is lead foot /jack rabbit driving...
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