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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 11:20 AM
Jewish Deli Dill Pickles In Bahia Asuncion?


I learned the recipe and technique from a retired deli owner straight out of Brooklyn. Simon Weintraub. Guests proclaimed, "Best Pickle In The World" at the hotel in Michoacan. Well, when I go north next week I could pick up the ingredients to make a big batch. Genuine pickles do not have a trace of vinegar.

Thinking about having a couple of "Pickle Days" at the Mercado Miramar. In July. Free samples, and none of the C.S. method of cutting the dill into small cubes and offering them on the end of a toothpick, either. Depending on the size of the available cucumbers they will either be whole or sliced.

If you are a "pickle" aficionado, you may get a chance to enjoy the best jewish style dill pickle on the face of the earth.

If interested, U2U me.




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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 01:03 PM


Yep David , a proper Kosher dill is hard to beat and you're right -no vinegar.

I believe they are made by lactic fermentation- like a good kimchi or sauerkraut.

You might want to check up on method though and make sure you have the ability to keep things at proper temp for making them so you don't poison BA. Winter may be a better time.
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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 02:24 PM


I first sterilize the cucumbers in a boil blanch. The fermentation temperature is monitored by an infrared thermocouple. Upon completion of fermentation the product is stored in a constant 42 degree environment. I slather on the alcohol gel and wear one time nitrile gloves. Yeah I know all this goes contra convention down here but I'll be damned before I damage someone.

Michoacan is normally 85 in the day and 75 at dawn. A lot more humid with a lot more mold spores in the air. Did not have a problem making a few hundred pounds of pickles there and I surely believe if anything BA is safer.

But thanks for the heads-up KC. I am a madman about food safety. A few bouts with restaurant e-coli over the years, and listeria sorta made me graduate of the school of hard knocks.




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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 04:06 PM


"I first sterilize the cucumbers in a boil blanch."
sounds like you would be destroying the natural yeast on the cucumber...

ow about a recipe ?




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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 04:44 PM


Ok but understand it involves secret chants, curses, snipe hunts, and grape leaves (Aguascalientes for you?)



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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 04:46 PM


OK, I'm game to try them...seeing as my grandmother was Polish, I get a hankerin for dills once in awhile.

[Edited on 6-15-2013 by shari]




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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 04:57 PM


OY VEY! What's next kosher bacon wrapped hotdogs?
(With "special turkey bacon" of course!)
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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 06:03 PM


Please count me in on those dills...I can trade something from my kitchen...brownies? key lime tart? chipotle sweet potato casserole?
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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 06:30 PM


As much as i love them they are not for a low salt diet.
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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 06:41 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by redmesa
...they are not for a low salt diet.


Shhhhh...this little heart of mine does not want to hear that.




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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 06:32 AM


Quote:
Originally posted by KaceyJ
a good kimchi


That earns an oxymarooon award.
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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 08:50 AM


Quote:
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Quote:
Originally posted by KaceyJ
a good kimchi


That earns an oxymarooon award.



Hah!,

you must have never learned to stay away from that skanky stuff ;D
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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 10:12 AM


I hate to be a nitpicker but the correct terminology is Kosher Pickles, no vegetables to my knowledge practice a religion.

Although this reminds me of a funny story. One time I invited some friends over for a breakfast of lox and bagels and the wife said "Jewish fish is good." I had to look twice to see if the smoked salmon had been circumcised.

Best pickles to be found in SoCal are Claussen brand dills.




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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 01:34 PM


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Originally posted by greengoes

Best pickles to be found in SoCal are Claussen brand dills.


Yeah, but Dave has already turned his nose up at those, in an earlier post. :rolleyes:

Actually, the manner in which he used the descriptor "Jewish" described the deli, not the pickles. I guess if the owner was Jewish, it was a correct usage.

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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 06:56 PM


I bought a case of canned pickles on the internet called Osem Mediterranean Pickles. KOSHER-PARVE KOSHER FOR PASSOVER AND ALL YEAR AROUND. under the supervision of Rabbinate Afula. I don't know why I bought these, I love dill pickles and these are just so-so
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[*] posted on 6-17-2013 at 10:19 AM


My friend called Clausen Dills "The Checker Cab Of Kosher Pickles"

Soak these babies in fresh water for a hour, and it will reduce sodium around 50%.

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[*] posted on 6-17-2013 at 10:50 AM
Here's one Jewish guy's recipe




Kosher Dill Pickles

Adapted from Arthur Schwartz’s Jewish Home Cooking

Arthur advises making sure the cukes aren’t bitter before pickling them, so be sure to take a bite of one.

I found the recipe made a bit more brine than I needed, but that’s probably because my cucumbers were different than what was advised in the recipe. Just for fun, I did one jar by splitting the cucumbers lengthwise and they worked great. It’s a good tip if you want your pickles in a hurry since that jar was ready after just days of fermenting.

4 quarts (scant 4l) water
6 tablespoons coarse white salt (kosher, if available)
18-20 Kirby cucumbers, scrubbed
8 cloves garlic, unpeeled and lightly-crushed
2 tablespoons pickling spice (see links below)
6 bay leaves
1 large bunch of dill, preferably going to seed, washed

1. In a large pot, bring 1 qt (1l) water to a boil with the salt, stirring until the salt is dissolved. Remove from heat and add the remaining water.

2. Prepare three 1 quart (liter) wide jars by running them through the dishwasher or filling them with boiling water, then dumping it out.

3. Pack the cucumbers vertically into the jars, making sure they’re tightly-packed. As you fill the jars, divide the garlic, spices, bay leaves, and dill amongst them.

4. Fill the jars with brine so that the cucumbers are completely covered. Cover the jars with cheesecloth, secured with rubber bands, or loosely with the lids. Store in a cool, dark place for 3 days.

5. After 3 days, taste one. The pickles can ferment from 3 to 6 days. The longer the fermentation, the more sour they’ll become. Once the pickles are to your liking, refrigerate them.

[Edited on 6-17-2013 by durrelllrobert]




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[*] posted on 6-17-2013 at 12:51 PM


Not Bad, Not Bad, heh heh heh



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[*] posted on 6-17-2013 at 01:29 PM


How bout this one?


4 quarts boiling water, for cleansing jar
3 tablespoons pickling spices
6 cloves garlic
10 to 12 firm, small pickling cucumbers (about 1 1/2 pounds)
1/4 cup Kosher salt (preferably Morton's brand, which is saltier than others)
1 bunch fresh dill

1. Pour boiling water into a 1-gallon canning jar and pour out. Drop pickling spices and 3 of the garlic cloves into the bottom of the jar. Arrange cucumbers in the jar to fill just up to the neck. Top with salt, remaining 3 garlic cloves, and dill. Add cold water to cover. Cover securely with the lid. Shake well and let stand for 3 to 4 days in a cool, dark place before serving.
2. Refrigerate after 4 days to stop the pickling process. The pickles will keep for several weeks, covered, in the refrigerator.




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[*] posted on 6-17-2013 at 02:06 PM


Pickling Spices? "No", the old man patiently explained to me "Recipes like that are found in the Bronx or out on Long Island. This recipe is genuine from Eastern Europe. The ingredients are all fresh. The recipe calls for hand dug raw salt, which is not pure white. If I wanted pure sodium chloride, I'll go to a Chemical Supply House". The recipe for these pickles is startlingly different.

I'm going to keep this under my hat until some fellow Nomads sample them and let them decide if the recipe and the pickles are special or not.




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