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dizzyspots
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Hankook....was BFG ...switch on my FJ...now on my Tundra...great performance and great price......discounttire.com
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Bubba
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bubba
I'm now a Bridgestone fanatic based upon my experience with the Dueler series tires I've used for quite a few years now. This, after having multiple
BFG LT tire failures (and a Goodyear failure as well - but that's an apples-to-oranges comparison).
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Wow, those are the stock tires on my truck and I've never seen worse. I suppose they wore ok in some areas, there was no side ware or anything, I've
always brought it back to the dealer on 5k miles, tires rotated etc but there's no almost no tread left after 32k miles. It's where the rubber meets
the road that's shot, I don't like it. |
I think several tires in dueler line. Bridgestone dueler a/t revos are pretty good. On my 2nd set now. First set lasted over 50k miles. Stock
duelers came on my 4runner and they lasted 50k miles. If you wear out tires in 30k miles I think your problem is lead foot /jack rabbit driving...
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I appreciate the information but if you call my average speed on the freeway at 70 mph lead foot than I'm guilty and I know nothing about "jack rabbit
driving". These tires are flat out junk but I didn't post this to bash them, I am simply asking advice on what to buy next.
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BajaNomad
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by Bubba
I'm now a Bridgestone fanatic based upon my experience with the Dueler series tires I've used for quite a few years now. This, after having multiple
BFG LT tire failures (and a Goodyear failure as well - but that's an apples-to-oranges comparison).
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Wow, those are the stock tires on my truck and I've never seen worse. I suppose they wore ok in some areas, there was no side ware or anything, I've
always brought it back to the dealer on 5k miles, tires rotated etc but there's no almost no tread left after 32k miles. It's where the rubber meets
the road that's shot, I don't like it. |
I doubt the Bridgestone Revo, Revo 2, or D693's (or their equivalent at the time) were stock equipment. As with my comment about the Goodyears -
which were the stock tires on my 95 Tacoma - it's an apples-to-oranges comparison. Those Goodyears ("load range B" LT tires) were ruined quickly in
Baja. I've been very abusive on tires - and the Bridgestones have take it all in stride from day 1 using them. The only time I've had an issue - it
was driver-error... I didn't air down the tires when I should have along a rocky stretch east of Mission San Javier heading for the Comondus.
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David K
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As also an owner of a 2010 Tacoma (4WD OFF ROAD), I have been very impressed with the traction and highway manors of the Hankook Dynapro ATM. It isn't
giving me a lot of miles, mut no different than Toyo, Cooper, etc. that I have run on my previous Tacomas... and naturally all are better than the BFG
Rugged Trails that come on the truck new.
I did go with the largest tire that will fit a stock Tacoma without any rub, 265/75-16 which is about 1" taller than what the truck comes with. The
bonus is 1/2" more ground clearance and the speedometer reads correctly now. It was too fast with the stock tires.
The other good tires I have had on past Tacomas include the Toyo Open Country AT and the Cooper Discoverer ATR (on my 2005 Tacoma).
[Edited on 6-17-2013 by David K]
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by measomsan
on the subject of tires. came down 60ty days ago in my 2013 FJ crusier it is a limited Trail edition with nice tries. Did not let air out crossing
from Ganzaga to GN.
Headed back to texas july 2nd. Not sure about the air letting out thing. Is it something I should do? |
Here's the deal... on graded (washboard) dirt roads, dropping the air will provide a smoother ride, less wear and tear. If you run 32-34 psi on the
street, then go to around 22 psi for dirt roads. It will also help prevent sharp rocks from ripping into tires. I learned the hard way having rock
punctured new or good, fully inflated tires a few times.
To cross deep sand, then dropping to 12-17 psi is the ticket.
Get a good electric air pump (that clips directly to the battery) to refill quickly once you are back to pavement or off the beach.
Pumping the tires back up to 34 psi from 17 psi takes 5 min. per tire with the Tsunami air pump... last month:
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Bubba
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Ok, very good info here. Thank you once again to everybody.
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
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Your pickup looks like it overheated. You need more airflow to that radiator while traveling in the desert. 
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wessongroup
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David K
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The hood is up because my pump connects to the battery... It is a Toyota, so no engine issues, ever.
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woody with a view
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i just ordered another Q Industries MV 50. the first one was a real workhorse so they deserve my repeat biz. funny thing, it looks EXECTLY like DK'
tsunami..... http://www.amazon.com/Industries-MV50-SuperFlow-High-Volume-...
http://www.bing.com/shopping/master-heaters-master-flow-mf-1...
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David K
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Quite a price difference, for the same unit? I still have my Harbor Freight air pump, too... It is just more bulky in its big plastic case. It was $49
on sale, back in 2005 or so...
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The hood is up because my pump connects to the battery... It is a Toyota, so no engine issues, ever. |
I AM surprised, David, that those huge 'driving lights' don't appear to interfere with your cooling system as they do cover a lot of air-flow to your
radiator, apparently.
Pretty amazing!!!
Barry
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I'm using BF Goodrich KM2 mud terrains on my '84 diesel Landcruiser. I'm not saying that's the tire for you (I spend as much time off road as I can)
but I can say that noise has not been an issue. I thought they might be annoying on the highway but they run smooth and there's no noticeable road
noise. I do suspect, however, that they may have lowered my fuel economy a bit.
I use a VIAIR compressor to air down and re-inflate. I bought it on Amazon for less than $200 and it will inflate my tires from 18-34 psi in about a
minute. Great compressor.
I wouldn't rely on Harbor Freight, personally, unless I knew who manufactured it.
You're usually not far from a llantera in Baja though, so I find I rarely have to use my compressor.
Traveling the Americas via my old land cruiser
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Ken Cooke
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I'm a Viair user too! That's my favorite accessory to use when going off-road. 
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durrelllrobert
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Or get some of these
No sidewall problems or flats ever:
Bob Durrell
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The hood is up because my pump connects to the battery... It is a Toyota, so no engine issues, ever. |
I AM surprised, David, that those huge 'driving lights' don't appear to interfere with your cooling system as they do cover a lot of air-flow to your
radiator, apparently.
Pretty amazing!!!
Barry |
The Lord said "Let there be light"... so he invented HID, and it was good!
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Phil C
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All my off road driving in Baja involves "airing down". Generaly to 14 to 20 front 18 to 24 rear depending on the load in my suburban. I've been
using BFG A/Ts because of the three ply sidewall and the fact that the sidewall is presented to the terrain. Gone thru four sets and two suburbans
with only a couple of flats, none in the sidewalls. I'm wondering if another manufactor makes a three or greater ply sidewall in a less aggressive
tread?
As said before there are a lot of highway miles before and after off road.
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Barry A.
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So many folks have mentioned "noisy" when talking about BFG AT's which I don't understand at all. None of my 3 vehicles are "noisy" on the road, and
they all have BFG AT's--------------very strange.
Barry
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David K
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Phil: Many off road, mud terrain, etc. tires have 3 ply sidewalls... My Cooper Discoverer STT tires did... However, I have never gotten a sidewall
puncture on any of the non-3 ply sidewall tires I have run. Funny, but the only time I was in a vehicle that got one in the sidewall was BFG All
Terrain TAs, and brand new ones, too... on a sandy road!
Barry, I agree that the All Terrain TA is a low noise tire... compared to others all terrain tires or to mud terrain tires.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Phil: Many off road, mud terrain, etc. tires have 3 ply sidewalls... My Cooper Discoverer STT tires did... However, I have never gotten a sidewall
puncture on any of the non-3 ply sidewall tires I have run. Funny, but the only time I was in a vehicle that got one in the sidewall was BFG All
Terrain TAs, and brand new ones, too... on a sandy road!
Barry, I agree that the All Terrain TA is a low noise tire... compared to others all terrain tires or to mud terrain tires. |
As I am sure you all are aware, the width of the rim vis-a-vis the width of the tire has a LOT to do with punctures in "side walls" of tires. The
wider the rim the more exposed the tire sidewall is, and vice-versa. Run the proper rim width with the proper tire width and you will have few
problems with side-wall punctures, all else being equal.
Barry
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