| CortezBlue 
 
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| Do not cross the border, you may be a victim of violence! 
 
 Watching the news and checking the Internet, I would not recommend crossing the boarder.  Everyday there seems to be article after article and news
broadcasts talking about the shootings,robberies and kidnappings that seems to happen daily.
 
 Also, it seems that the police are also involved.  Reports are describing how the police are shooting unarmed civilians without cause.
 
 I have lived here for many years and I thought that crimes was reducing, but it seems that it is increasing and at a very fast rate.
 
 So bottom line, If you are crossing the border be very careful and if you get pulled over by the police, stay in your car and just answer any
questions asked and don't make any fast moves.
 
 Stay safe my friends!
 
 Cortez Blue
 
 PS, I am talking about if you are traveling north to Fenix, AZ
 
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| nbacc 
 
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 ha!  good one                               Nancy
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| Barry A. 
 
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 Yep, BIG cities are a magnet for nare-do-wells, and always have been.  With all the 'give-a-way' programs lately, it is just going to get worse.  Time
to move to rural Utah!!!
 
 Barry
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| bajaguy 
 
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 Tooele, UT is a nice place. Plenty of services, close to SLC if you get the urge.
 
 
 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by Barry A. Yep, BIG cities are a magnet for nare-do-wells, and always have been.  With all the 'give-a-way' programs lately, it is just going to get worse.  Time
to move to rural Utah!!!
 
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| Barry A. 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by bajaguy Tooele, UT is a nice place. Plenty of services, close to SLC if you get the urge.
 
 
 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by Barry A. Yep, BIG cities are a magnet for nare-do-wells, and always have been.  With all the 'give-a-way' programs lately, it is just going to get worse.  Time
to move to rural Utah!!!
 
 Barry
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 My daughter lives in Herriman, UT between SLC and Provo.  Loves it!!!!  Been there for years.  She looks up at the Bingham Canyon Copper mine to the
west (beautiful colorful tailings in the morning light), and looks southeast to Utah Lake and the new spy facility being built.  What more could you
ask for. (she refuses to talk about the 'spy' facility)
  
 Barry
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| bajaguy 
 
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 Next time you visit your daughter, try this place for dinner:
 
 http://psr.m42x.com/index.php
 
 If I ever move from Nevada it will be to a tax friendly and second amendment friendly state.
 
 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by bajaguy Tooele, UT is a nice place. Plenty of services, close to SLC if you get the urge.
 
 
 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by Barry A. Yep, BIG cities are a magnet for nare-do-wells, and always have been.  With all the 'give-a-way' programs lately, it is just going to get worse.  Time
to move to rural Utah!!!
 
 Barry
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 My daughter lives in Herriman, UT between SLC and Provo.  Loves it!!!!  Been there for years.  She looks up at the Bingham Canyon Copper mine to the
west (beautiful colorful tailings in the morning light), and looks southeast to Utah Lake and the new spy facility being built.  What more could you
ask for. (she refuses to talk about the 'spy' facility)
  
 Barry
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| DENNIS 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by CortezBlue 
 PS, I am talking about if you are traveling north to Fenix, AZ
 
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 Why can't crime in the US be addressed as a stand alone subject?   Why always the comparison?
 If Mexico is so crime free and safe, why can't that aspect of the equation be presented as an attribute unique to the region, Mexico,  and quit
relying on crime statistics in another country, the US, to glorify the lower numbers of a country of one third the population?
 If Mexico is a sanctuary Nirvana, why not just say so?  Everyone knows, without saying, that Phoenix, Arizona is a cesspool, but I'll say it
anyway....just to illustrate my point;  Phoenix is a cesspool.
 
 One reason readily comes to mind why it can't be said with any degree of honesty, that Mexico is relatively free of crime , but I'll save that for
another rant.
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| dirtbikr 
 
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 Whenever I read about negative news reporting in Mexico,  part of me is really happy,  Negative news means less cars, people etc. Then there is the
flip side that more tourists mean more money and thriving business, more traffic, more crowded beaches, more ugly everything.  Am curious would locals
rather have floods of tourists with all the prosperity that comes with it (and the crap), or less tourists and less money?
 
 
 
 
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| DENNIS 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by dirtbikr Am curious would locals rather have floods of tourists with all the prosperity that comes with it (and the crap), or less tourists and less money?
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 Locals with business interests would welcome all of it, whereas those wanting a quiet, uncluttered life would probably be less thrilled with the
crowds.
 It must be noted that a sizeable percentage of the tourist traffic, along with the trail they leave behind, are Mexican nationals moving around more
with their new-found middle class wealth.
 That too will change once credit for cars and houses becomes readily available.
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| sancho 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by DENNIS Why can't crime in the US be addressed as a stand alone subject?   Why always the comparison?
 
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 That always bugged me, Detriot, LA, whatever ill attempted
 comparison makes absoutely nada sense. The typical US
 tourist to Mex does that primarily for a vacation, they
 CHOOSE to go. All the viloence reported in Mex over the
 last 5-7 yrs. or so, is correct, while it may be over reported,
 with Tourists rarely being a victim, those things do/did happen. Those on this board have a more intimate
 knowledge ot Mex, the average Joe Gringo Tourist doesn't
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| Bobvaso 
 
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 like bajaguy posted, Nevada is nice. And 2nd amendment rights are strongly supported.
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| Bobvaso 
 
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 hey, as long as you have one brake light, one headlight, and you can do the speed limit, then I-5, 15 and 25 run north/south. Even numbers run
east/west like I-20, 40, 80. Fuggedaboutit! get out there and run hard. Sail on sailor. Of course, I know nothing about this topic. I was aqn over the
road trucker for 15 years. Have fun on yer run, Ten 4.
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