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desertcpl
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as you can see options are wide spread
one thing you need to consider when buying a used vehicle
is where are you going register it,,if you do decide to keep it in CV you will have to consider Smog laws in Calif
here in Yuma we have none
my bet for you on a SUV in what you are saying with bringing Grandkids down you will more than likely need more room
I would go with a Jeep Cherokee
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Bubba
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mojo_norte
| Quote: | Originally posted by Curt63
Toyota 4Runner! |
$$ - same as Tacoma |
These vehicles are more expensive for a reason, I've owned 5 of them and never a problem with any of them.
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skippermike
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Toyota Fan
We drive a 2008 Tacoma 4wd Long Bed Crew Cab - I second earlier comments on reliability being very important.
It has been to a lot of Baja very successfully, including many miles on Baja race courses.
I know the question was for an SUV, but a 4door Tacoma is more-or-less the same as a 4Runner for passenger comfort, plus it can have a 5 foot bed or
6' bed for hauling stuff around.
I'd suggest a 2nd gen - 2005 plus - if there is any option for the $$$.
You wouldn't go wrong with a 4Runner, either - I'd just rather the truck.
Good luck.
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mulegemichael
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Hands down; 4runner!!...we have two, one of which we leave in mexico most of the time...THE most reliable rigs we have ever owned!!...one of them is
an 8 cylinder and one a 6 cyl...really no noticeable difference except a few miles per gallon....there's just no way you can beat these rigs!!!
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mulegemichael
Hands down; 4runner!!...we have two, one of which we leave in mexico most of the time...THE most reliable rigs we have ever owned!!...one of them is
an 8 cylinder and one a 6 cyl...really no noticeable difference except a few miles per gallon....there's just no way you can beat these rigs!!!
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I didn't know that they made an 8 cylinder 4runner.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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wessongroup
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Used this guy when down... $1,700 and gets 18-20 mpg at 55 mph ... only thing added on after purchase ... new shocks .. and a new "head unit" with USB
for my iPod .. worked and still does (the Bronco) .. starts like a Ford with a "pull choke" every time 
All cleanup and no place to go ...
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Barry A.
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Very nice, Wiley. What year is it?
You can tell that somebody (you?) loves that vehicle.
Barry
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skippermike
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4Runner v8
Yup, up until 2009 they offered a Limited package with the 4.7L v8 - not a lot more HP, but more CI, good for towing and extra guts.
If I had the $$$, I'd get one and put an ICON Stage 2 or 3 off road suspension package on it, with 17" Toyo A/T2 tires, etc. = a great off road truck!
My Tacoma could retire to be a DD.
Oh well - money spent elsewhere on 2 college tuitions and 2 marriages - though not regretted!
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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Very nice, Wiley. What year is it?
You can tell that somebody (you?) loves that vehicle.
Barry |
1986 EB with 217,000 on the 302 ....... still a fun ride and can take a beating IMHO
and can pass smog here in CA
[Edited on 9-1-2013 by wessongroup]
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chuckie
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I dunnowhy you need an SUV, unless you plan on exploring...I have an Astrovan AWD But almost anything will make the trip from Kalifornia to
Ascuncion...Friend of mine comes to visit in his Cadillac every other year or so....Toyota anything is a good choice, but dont drink the koolaid that
makes you a fanatic...(usually supplied by the Toyota dealer, in a Pacifico bottle)....
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bajafam
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We have had two 91 Explorers make the trips back and forth for years. Just upgraded to an 89 Suburban because we needed the space for our growing fam.
I loved the Explorers, and they are easy to find parts for. We lost the transmission outside of Jesus Maria a year or so ago, and were fortunate to
get a tow back into town and the mechanic there popped a 2WD tranny from a yonke pickup truck and we were back in action in less than 24 hours  So far so good with the Burbie, but it's only her maiden Baja voyage....
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mulegemichael
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skippermike; that is EXACTLY the package we have on our mexico 4 runner....whatta machine!....it's a 2004 and has never ever failed us in some really
adverse conditions....like going across to san juanico from mulege and back after jimena a few years ago...literally; NO ROAD!
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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hdn2mx
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It's funny no one mentioned the Isuzu Trooper. I've had 2 down there so far over the last 10-12 years. Both of mine were 1991. Good gas milege,
pleanty of room for people or equipment. Plus a great off road vehicle. I use mine for surfing iand it does well in the sand, just air down the tires.
You can find them used and they are typically cheeper than Toyota 4 Runners. Dont get me wrong, I love Toyotas as well, just saying....
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by hdn2mx
It's funny no one mentioned the Isuzu Trooper. I've had 2 down there so far over the last 10-12 years. Both of mine were 1991. Good gas milege,
pleanty of room for people or equipment. Plus a great off road vehicle. I use mine for surfing iand it does well in the sand, just air down the tires.
You can find them used and they are typically cheeper than Toyota 4 Runners. Dont get me wrong, I love Toyotas as well, just saying....
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I have a '89 Trooper 4 cyl stick, but since over 20 yrs old it is kinda hard to find parts for them anymore. Great vehicle, but old now, and iffy for
reliability. I do love it, tho.
Barry
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durrelllrobert
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I love my gas guzzling 2002 Yukon that has 260,000 miles on it.
I'd buy something smaller but can't afford it. 
Bob Durrell
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BajaLuna
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thanks everyone for your feedback! Lots of good info you have shared!!
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EdZeranski
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EEEvil Ess You Vee
| Quote: | Originally posted by mojo_norte
The older Cherokees with the 6 cylinder engines are good. Weak points are the Auto Transmissions - go for a manual.. 15-20 MPG?
I'd go for a late 80's - 90's Ford Bronco w/ a FI 302 V8 and a 5 speed manual. |
My brother in the mechanic/heavy equipment business for 35 + years really likes the Cherokees with the 6cyl and manual tranny but takes the auto x
mission models too. Right now he has 4 of them for wife, son, self, and a back up for visiting family members. He says that 6 is one of the better
engines ever built. Roger has mapped out all the sensors and grounds that cause reliability problems so when he picks up a used vehicle he can run a
diagnostic check, take care of what might be iffy, then away he goes. So...If you can find one of those Jeeps at a decent price pick it up. Toyota
ForeRunners are great!! I'm still driving a 1994 Grand Cherokee V8 as a UTILITY vehicle but have a 2005 Forerunner we take to Baja.
The Toyota sure is more comfortable on a long drive!! It can wallow its way through lots places I should have had better sense than try. I'm not sure
if Roger did a spread sheet on the Jeep grounds or sensor spec/resistances but if I can get the list I'll post it as a troubleshooting aid.
EdZ KG6UTS
Baja in October!!!
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EdZeranski
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| Quote: | | I didn't know that they made an 8 cylinder 4runner. |
Our Fore Runner, 2005, with the V8 has been a great vehicle. A bit pricey when new but looking back well worth it and still at 100 and a grunch
thousand mile runs like new. It has the guts to pull trailers. Now running Bridgestone tires and gas shocks.
EdZ KG6UTS
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
maybe they should go "out of the box"
why do you need an suv when there are "hatchbacks" |
A hatchback that gets 40 mpg is gonna be the size of a postage stamp. The hatchback will be convenient for putting groceries back there but that's
about all it would carry.
Reality, Bob, reality.................
I'd go 2005 four door Tacoma and if you really want it to be like an SUV, put a shell on the back. I think they made a 4 cylinder option that year; go
with that for mileage, assuming you arent towing anything over 2.5k or so, for long periods.
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
maybe they should go "out of the box"
why do you need an suv when there are "hatchbacks" |
We need something bigger than a CRV or RAV, we have 2 Grandchildren and another on the way next month...and all their gear too. For such little people
it's amazing how much gear ya need for kids LOL!
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